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Raph's entire thought process there relies on bullshit we don't have good tech for yet and Oculus isn't that good tech.
Oculus doesn't open up anything really, except to thrust Facebook into a market for which their current shit has no immediate or obvious use.
Basically, shit bought other shit because the other shit will let them look like shit with more breadth to shitty investors. Shit all around. Shit shit shit.
Dude, you are not paying enough attention. Beacons got installed in all Apple stores last month, and push ads with opt-out to all phones that come near. Trial is moving to Macy's next. Google bought Nest for a reason. They've had the indoor mapping project going for a while now, and it works. Plus there's the new project that 3d scans everything in a room. Did you miss that video? We're already geofencing and annotating everything. Why else do you think Google bought Zagat? What do you think Yelp is? What do you think your FB profile is? Like I said, the clunky headset is a ways from getting fixed. But the client isn't the part that matters.Do I think that this acquisition is the right path to the Metaverse? No. But to think that the AR-world isn't hurtling headlong towards you is to bury your head in the sand. VR will be a small subset of this new networked environment, for the purposes primarily of entertainment, with strong verticals in training & education and a minor one in telepresence. I have the worlds best dagger to throw at you right now, and it would be super awesome and just, like, a total bloodletting, but I won't. Suffice it to say, I disagree with what you've said. |
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I see battery tech being the big barrier to the real gee-whiz Shadowrun AR stuff. Google Glass/Oculus/etc will get smaller/better but powering all of this for any length of time is pretty much hitting its limit with current battery tech. I haven't looked at it in a while but last time I checked is there any real game-changers coming down the pipe in that area?
It will be two things: reducing power usage and designing it to be powered by motion and/or the body. |
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From eBay after eBay realized they had no idea what they were going to do with Skype.
Microsoft at least had a point in doing so. |
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If Microsoft was buying them for their tech it was stupid because they already had their own VOIP tech that worked. If they were buying them for the userbase it was stupid because Skype's userbase isn't worth the billions they paid for it.
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Show me a tech recently that anyone paid billions for that was worth it.
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That's the point really. This is tech bubble 2.0. When you have companies spending billions of dollars acquiring other companies that make no/little profit the market is well and truly fucked.
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That's the point really. This is tech bubble 2.0. When you have companies spending billions of dollars acquiring other companies that make no/little profit the market is well and truly fucked.
A lot of the big acquisitions in the last few years seem to have been about buying out potential competition, either in user-base or in technology. |
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The strategy of buying a competitor and murdering it in your corporate basement is real.
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Which was actually what skype was about. All hail lync.
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You mean corporations have a marked interest in keeping the status quo and aren't all about the idea? That startups creating "The next big thing" are really only looking to cash-out and not idealogues who wouldn't jump at billions but would stay poor just to keep the dream of pushing us in to a sci-fi metaverse alive? I'm shocked.  |
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Looks like Torchlight founders have left Runic to form a smaller company.
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You can get smaller than Runic?
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Can we call that behavior serial yet?
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If Microsoft was buying them for their tech it was stupid because they already had their own VOIP tech that worked. If they were buying them for the userbase it was stupid because Skype's userbase isn't worth the billions they paid for it.
They were buying the brand name. Seniors know what Skype is with the kids and whatnot. |
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Hawkbit
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You can get smaller than Runic?
I don't know the story, other than they grew to 20 employees. My guess is they spent more time managing employees than developing games. |
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 € 92.99.... Hmm. *ponders* Well. No, thanks. I pass. |
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If Microsoft was buying them for their tech it was stupid because they already had their own VOIP tech that worked. If they were buying them for the userbase it was stupid because Skype's userbase isn't worth the billions they paid for it.
I think you are correct on principle. But even then MS buying Skype is in a different league than fucking Facebook buying a hardware startup for 2 bn. |
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schild
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Wow, Gal Civ 3 is actually $99.99 USD. Fucking Stardock.
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I... what? Serioulsy? Fuck you, Stardock. What the fuck?
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What sort of koolaid are they drinking over there? Did they license the source code for BC3K?
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It's a special package. The game when released is not going to be $99. For the $99 you get early access, the game, and a bunch of expansions, DLC when they come out.
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schild
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Actually, it sounds more like for $99.99 you get to help with the continued existence of a studio that should've died off.
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After the drama of Elemental there's absolutely nothing I'd buy from Stardock without seeing guinea pigs from F13 play it first.
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After the drama of Elemental there's absolutely nothing I'd buy from Stardock without seeing guinea pigs from F13 play it first.
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Wow, Gal Civ 3 is actually $99.99 USD. Fucking Stardock.
I blame Uber Entertainment for piloting this model with Planetary Annihilation. Grab all the early investor money immediately, before the game can be criticized or reviewed, and then drop the price as it gets more and more finished. It's like someone said "hey, generally games go down in price after launch, so continuing that trend in the other direction, they should be even more expensive before launch!" I wish it would have died there, but Planetary Annihilation seems to have gotten away with it, so apparently we can all look forward to more of this bullshit. |
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I said somewhere that this shit was only going to get worse. Either the SC thread or the EQN thread. Good to see it's trending as I expected.
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I said somewhere that this shit was only going to get worse. Either the SC thread or the EQN thread. Good to see it's trending as I expected.
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At the $99.99 level, Brad Wardell will personally come to your house and tell you that your politics suck and then he'll take back your game because you're not worthy to own it.
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How much do I need to donate to be allowed to run the game past a handful of kids and ask if it's stupid? Because I think if we started using the Evil Overlord list on game designers, we might get somewhere.
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Yeah..this early access / KS stuff is just a way to shift more and more risk onto the consumer. I can buy a finished game I know is good for $60 new, or like $20 used. $99 to speculate on what is probably going to be a bad game? No thanks.
I think this problem will correct itself eventually though. Some game will come out in Early Access, be popular, then the devs will say "eh...we're bored, not going to work on it any more."
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As far as OR and FB, I agree with Raph that the client tech isn't the most important part in the long-term - however in the short term it's very important. Mass adoption will require great hardware.
But it's definitely not about the servers and who owns them. Servers are already a commodity product - anyone can just use EC2 or Azure or whatever.
It's about content. And FB will most likely make the content for OR obnoxious and uninteresting.
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I'm okay with indie devs and start-up companies doing Kickstarts and "Alpha access," but when it comes from well-established companies that have the resources and connections for traditional development, I've started to look at it askance.
I'm looking at Stardock askance, and increasingly so at Double Fine.
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DoubleFine is basically a charity where your donations fund the lifestyles of 20 white hipster dudes who all look identical.
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vampirehipi23: I would enjoy a book written by a monkey and turned into a movie rather than this.
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schild
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Doublefine has yet to make a good game. It's faux-cerebral shit for gamers that don't like actual fun.
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Chaos Reborn's Kickstarter, from Julian Gollop creator of X-Com and Laser Squad. "Wizard Tactics with Bluff and Deception, Procedurally Generated Realms, Online Multiplayer, Co-op and a Huge Single Player Campaign"  
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