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apocrypha
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Planes? Shit, I'm terrified to get in my car now!
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No, I haven't watched TD or read interviews. That's actually really good to hear that there is that much consideration given to that kind of thing, I'm impressed and a little surprised.
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Stewie
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Holy shit!!!!!
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Surlyboi
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Did NOT see that coming.
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Tuned in, immediately get to watch cringey Ubisoft talking head offering her deepest sympathies to the families impacted by the Orlando shooting while flanked by a man in a giraffe suit and some sort of "horrifically garish neon costumes through the ages" exhibit or something. We need to stop this fucking planet right now and sort some shit out. -Kail
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taolurker
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BUT.. BUT..
Maybe he survived?
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Threash
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BUT.. BUT..
Maybe he survived?
That would be total bullshit.
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Stewie
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Really doubt it. He was screaming and was at the bottom of the pile.
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angry.bob
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Not dead. I haven't watched the show in a year or more but they're not dead, despite Kirkman hating the person playing them.
They'll show up alive later on, probably to be killed a worse way the very same episode or the next.
I don't even know what any of you are talking about but i bet I'm right.
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Selby
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I like how everyone who talks shit about Rick & his plans has been getting theirs... sometimes within minutes.
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Bunk
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I actually agree with Bob, despite evidence to the contrary.
Either way, we won't know for two weeks. Next week is a 90 minute Morgan flashback episode.
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jgsugden
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Talking Dead tried to walk a fine line, but I think they made his fate clear.
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It's clearly being left ambiguous intentionally, we just don't know if it's for the purposes of a surprise survival or for it to hit harder when the other characters find out the person in question is dead. They didn't appear on Talking Dead as is usually customary for an outgoing major character.
Regardless, another strong episode in that they're keeping the momentum going. I'd almost like a Battlestar Galactica-esque survivor counter though because much like the Woodbury people that were brought into the prison, it almost gets ridiculous sometimes how many Alexandria people seem to pop out of nowhere for the purposes of getting killed. Nothing we saw last season suggested the number of people living in Alexandria we've seen so far this season (you'd think there would have been a lot more people present for the meeting regarding whether or not Rick was going to get kicked otu).
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MrHat
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Out of the frying pan, into the fire.
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Setanta
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That's my guess too. Great episode regardless.
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Xanthippe
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I hope so. Otherwise one of my last reasons to keep watching poofed.
I alternate between being irritated and interested at this show. Irritated because it seems that the writers just throw in shitty story arcs for no good reason, interested because of some of the characters.
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Ironwood
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They've become quite good at creating tension, to be fair.
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Ironwood
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Okay, caught up. It wasn't him being eaten and there was a bin he could hide under. Unlikely he's dead.
That episode had soooo many zombie clichés, it was a bit distracting. Nice tits tho.
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HaemishM
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I didn't think there was any ambiguity in that scene and if there was, I'm thinking that's a serious bullshit red herring. No way he escaped that shit.
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Setanta
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I'd like him to survive, meet up with the group and 2 minutes later follow the comic'c conclusion to his arc. Just to watch the tears as a result.
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"No man is an island. But if you strap a bunch of dead guys together it makes a damn fine raft."
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apocrypha
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Planes? Shit, I'm terrified to get in my car now!
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Ugh, really? This whole 'is he, isn't he dead' thing is poor story telling, plus they've done it to death (haha) already.
Trying to create dramatic tension like that is unnecessary and cheap exploitation of the medium. Ambiguous camera angles and episodic cliff hangers are such a cop-out. There are ways to use visual limitation and reveal restriction well - Breaking Bad did it superbly with the plane debris floating in the pool for instance, but 'whose guts were those?' doesn't fit that description.
The thing that really annoys me about it is that this season has been great so far. I like their attempt at telling events from multiple viewpoints simultaneously, which they'd started doing quite well last season. There's already plenty of dramatic tension without this lazy tweet-farming bullshit.
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Ironwood
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I didn't think there was any ambiguity in that scene and if there was, I'm thinking that's a serious bullshit red herring. No way he escaped that shit.
While I agree 'real world' there's no fucking way, there was TONS of ambiguity in that scene, if they want to be dickheads.
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Cyrrex
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I am hugely entertained either way, tbh. Initially I bought it hook, line and sinker, but I think the evidence presented here makes me believe he is still alive. His cries of agony were actually cries of grief over Nicholas offing himself when Glenn was so close to "saving" him from himself. And beyond that, in hindsight it doesn't seem the way for a character like Glenn to go, in episode 3 no less.
Why is nobody talking about Rick's hand? What the fuck even happened there? He paid it more attention than a throw-away injury deserved, so are we supposed to believe he may have been bit?
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luckton
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Why is nobody talking about Rick's hand? What the fuck even happened there? He paid it more attention than a throw-away injury deserved, so are we supposed to believe he may have been bit?
I don't think he was bit; just hit a walker so hard he busted something.
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Ironwood
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His knife snapped on a walker. Looked like the knife cut him.
I keep waiting for him to lose his hand, to be honest, so who knows. Gangrene anyone ?
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Velorath
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His knife snapped on a walker. Looked like the knife cut him.
I keep waiting for him to lose his hand, to be honest, so who knows. Gangrene anyone ?
I've always figured that the reason they wouldn't do that is because at that point it's committing to having to do special effects a lot of the time when your main character is on screen (and having to work around that by filming him with his arm out of frame when you're trying to save effects money). You can do it with characters like Merle and Herschel who aren't going to be around for too much longer, but Rick will likely be prominent in the series for the duration. A quick search just now confirmed that this is the reason Rick didn't lose a hand to the Governor.
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Ironwood
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Yeah, I get that. But it's a bit like Hot Tub Time Machine; I keep waiting for him to lose the hand and get giggly when he doesn't.
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rattran
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Rewatching that bit on the dvr, it looked like he grabbed the machete that was stuck in the walker by the blade with that hand. Also: Fromshowrunner Scott Gimple finally gave in and threw TVLine a bone on the Rick mystery -- arguably the less signfiicant of the two, since nobody really believed that he would die as a result of any potential infection.
"It’s entirely possible, but we haven’t really gotten into it on the show," said Gimple of the possibility that walker blood in an open wound could prove fatal. "I’m going to go out on a limb here and say something definitive: Rick is OK regarding that cut. His hand will survive. There will be a bandage. There will be some ointment involved. But he’s going to walk away from it."
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Ironwood
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Loving the sarcasm.
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HaemishM
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Yeah, I noticed the thing about Rick's hand too but it meant fuckall compared to Glenn. I really love that character and don't want him to bite it, but as a writer, I see no good explanation for him escaping that scenario unbitten.
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jgsugden
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I'm imagining it'll be something like: While the walkers eat the corpse on top of him, he guts a walker and is covered by walker guts. He then crawls away to some safe location (fire escape, stairs, etc...) and makes his way back to the group - just in time to meet a certain young lady...
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luckton
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What surprises me is, aside from the theory that zombies are a thing, if the zombies carry the virus that burns out a person from sickness via bites, how has everyone not gotten sick from blood splatter exposure to their eyes?
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jgsugden
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What surprises me is, aside from the theory that zombies are a thing, if the zombies carry the virus that burns out a person from sickness via bites, how has everyone not gotten sick from blood splatter exposure to their eyes?
They have not explored it in depth on the show or comics, but Talking Dead addressed it (indirectly) as follows: Bites kill you, but it isn't because the bites give you the virus. Everyone has the virus. There is something unique delivered via the bite that kills you.
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HaemishM
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Or in other words, just shut the fuck up and go with it, because that makes no more medical sense than anything else on the show.
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Evildrider
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Think of it like a Komodo dragon.. get some of their blood on you or whatever.. nothing. Get bit and die horribly.
edit: I know that its their venom that is dangerous, but til a few years ago we thought it was just the saliva.
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Velorath
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I'm imagining it'll be something like: While the walkers eat the corpse on top of him, he guts a walker and is covered by walker guts. He then crawls away to some safe location (fire escape, stairs, etc...) and makes his way back to the group - just in time to meet a certain young lady...
I'm kinda hoping they just quietly drop the whole thing about masking your smell with Walker parts because there's so many times they could have used that to avoid or get out of bad situations. They could have used it this episode in the pet store for instance to cover the two cripples with the two walkers they killed in there making it easier for them to survive without slowing down the others. The writers clearly know it's a lazy solution to use so they try to avoid it, but then you get Carol doing it at Terminus which made for a cool visual but then they just kinda drop it again after that.
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jgsugden
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« Last Edit: October 28, 2015, 03:20:53 PM by jgsugden »
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2020 will be the year I gave up all hope.
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