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Reply #140 on: April 02, 2005, 03:53:53 PM

Well, supposedly Baltar really feels love for Number Six. :)

The Caprica storyline made no sense to me at all until she became pregnant (which was aparrent a few episodes back), and that she was trying to prove that a human could really care for her, but again the entire motives behind that whole experiment are less than clear.  It would seem that with the arrival of Starbuck they will close out that part of the story in the second season.

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Reply #141 on: April 02, 2005, 05:32:23 PM

Well, it's fairly obvious why the Cylons aren't just blowing Galactica out of the sky - because they too believe in the prophecy and are actively guiding the remaing humans towards it, to whatever end. It's never really explicitly stated until the final episode, but the Cylons knew that the humans were headed for Kobol, and could have just as easily parked 30 basestars there if they were halfway motivated to.
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Reply #142 on: April 02, 2005, 05:57:09 PM

If that's so, why continue to attack them for days on end at the beginning?  To put on a good show?  Okay, but then why sabotage their water supply?  Why defend their fuel dump?  Why have a fleet at Kobol?

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Reply #143 on: April 02, 2005, 07:19:07 PM

I think it's fairly obvious that the Cylons are herding the humans, although to what end I'm not entierly sure. 

Religion is most likely the answer.  It seems as if perhaps the Cylons base some of their religion from their human creators, as they've seemed to express common beliefs.  At the least, they seem to believe the Capricians have some sort of role to play, which intertwines with their own role.  I'm guessing the reason why they've made contact, are having human babies, and are driving the Capricians is because they believe it will help them become closer to God in some way.  They see themselves as carrying out God's will.  They're just causing things to finally come into play.  Murdering billions of people can't be wrong if it's Gods plan.

There's also some questions as to why the females are the ones having children with humans.  It would be easier for a man to impregnate dozens of women, rather than having their females impregnated by a human.  So, along with any other reasons, I'd say the male cylons are sterile.  Perhaps a flaw in their creation.  Maybe they feel their children will contain the best of both races, and probably serves some religious purposes as well.  They also seem to want their children to be born out of love.  It also explains why they don't just kidnap someone and force them to have sex in order to procreate.  Maybe they see humans as more spiritually connected to God, since they themselves were just the creations of man?  Maybe this is a way to put their beliefs in a worthy vessel.
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Reply #144 on: April 02, 2005, 08:24:27 PM

There are plenty of ways to rationalize why they are doing the baby thing, but very few that can explain all the various sabotages, assassination plots, mind games, obstacles, etc.

I like the theoretical idea of different Cylon factions, like Gods, who rather than kill each-other work their schemes at cross-purposes among the humans.  I have no idea if this is what the writers have in mind.  In any case, you'd still have to explain a lot of other things that contradict that notion.

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Reply #145 on: April 04, 2005, 07:41:44 AM

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The Season Finale suggests the possibility that the Cylons are simply using the fleet in order to locate Earth, but there would seem to be far less complicated ways of going about it. 

That was where my thinking was heading.  The only two motivations I can think of for why the Cylons would keep Galactica et al alive is (a) to find Earth (b) for religious reasons, or some sort of strange mix.

Far as the Cylon religion goes, there seems to be something "real" to it, and it overlaps with the Colonial religion even though one is monotheistic and the other polytheistic.  Both talk about the "cycle of time", and both Humans and Cylongs make predictions about what is to come, and both seem correct beyond coincidence. 

It seems clear though that the Humans are not pulling the strings of fate, but the Cylons very well may be.  If not that, then they are far more in tune with the source of the prophecies than the Humans are.  There are a few more things we know; that the prophecies do appear to come true, that the Cylons are purposefully keeping the Humans alive and herding them along, and that the Cylons want the Humans to find Earth. 

Some things we may not know; Cylons have apparent disregard for Human life, but that may be because of a hatred for Humans.  one of the Cylons stated as much when he said something to the efect of the parents needing to die before the children can be on their own.  Then again, they also have apparent respect for Human emotion and a desire to be "alive".  It may be that the parent/child relationship referred to isn't Human/Cylon.  It may be that Cylons blasted the 12 colonies for a "greater good", at least in their mind.

Still a lot of "if"s though.

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Reply #146 on: April 04, 2005, 09:20:50 AM

There's also the thought that this Series is playing with Cyclical time - which means that everything that happened has happened before.  Which may mean that the humans we know were once Cyclons too and that the current Cyclons are just trying to ascend.

Or is that far too Matrix for everyone ?

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Reply #147 on: April 04, 2005, 09:54:59 AM

There's also the thought that this Series is playing with Cyclical time - which means that everything that happened has happened before.  Which may mean that the humans we know were once Cyclons too and that the current Cyclons are just trying to ascend.

Six said as much to Baltar.  And just to throw fat on the fire...
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Reply #148 on: April 06, 2005, 06:58:03 AM

Well..I saw the season finale last night. WoW. Just..WoW. I can't wait until July now.

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Reply #149 on: April 06, 2005, 08:02:22 AM

I'm starting to seriously wonder wtf is the deal with Adama.  It certainly locks in Madame President as the Moses figure if Adama bites it... ;-)
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Reply #150 on: April 06, 2005, 08:35:42 AM

It's doubtful that they'd kill him off, it would screw up the character dynamics too much.  And having the XO in charge would probably annoy the viewers as much as he irritates the crew.

Besides **SPOILER ALERT*** gutshots aren't necessarily instantly fatal; infection is typically more of a danger than the bullet wound.  Presumably Galactica's medical staff is up to dealing with that.

I'm wondering whether the Presiden't having legitimate visions, or if this is another case of the Cylons messing with brains to make someone see what they want them to see.

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Reply #151 on: June 25, 2005, 09:17:13 PM

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Universal Studios Home Entertainment has joined Fox and Warner Bros in offering Best Buy a title before other retailers. Battlestar Galactica: Season 1 will appear in Best Buy stores on July 26, and sell for $69.99. Best Buy has listed it as "Battlestar Galactica (Uk Version)," which doesn't make sense; it's the entire first season of the series. It also appears that they're charging full SRP, and they'll get away with it since they don't have any competition for 2 months.

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Reply #152 on: June 25, 2005, 11:47:35 PM

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Reply #153 on: June 26, 2005, 07:51:03 PM

This thing starts up for Season 2 in a couple weeks, right?

Caught a Stargate commercial too.  Guess it hadn't sunk in that they were bringing in Crichton AND Aeryn Sun.  I take it Sci Fi is regretting cancelling Farscape?
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Reply #154 on: June 26, 2005, 08:01:52 PM

This thing starts up for Season 2 in a couple weeks, right?

New season of BSG and the two Stargates start on July 15th.

And yeah, both of the Farscape leads in SG-1, this could give it some hope of not sucking so much this season.
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Reply #155 on: June 26, 2005, 09:25:58 PM

Yep, Sci-Fi Friday restarts on July 15.  I'm badly jonesing for my sci-fi fix.

The two leads on Farscape were the only things I liked about that series.  Didn't like much of the writing, hated the rest of the cast, but I always liked the two of them and their chemistry.  Don't know how well they'll make the transition into Stargate, but I think they'll both do well.  I was a bit worried how the change in leads would affect the show, but I'm thinking they can pull it off.

Either way, I like BSG and SG:Atlantis more than SG1, so long as they don't royally screw it up I'll be happy.

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