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Topic: Top 10 Disappointments of the Decade (Read 7377 times)
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Pennilenko
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I cant pick just ten. 
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stray
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MGS2? Wtf? Raiden was badass.. even doing naked cartwheels. fuck that list  I didn't know Factor 5 shut down.. How sad. We need more aerial combat games, even if that one wasn't so great. re: Doom 3 and Daikatana. The demise of Id in general is a sad thing.
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HaemishM
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Raiden was a whiney fuckheaded bag of beaver vag. He singlehandedly made me want to skullfuck the MSG creator to death. I thought the game was mostly great (though the nekkid levels were a cockpunch), but Raiden was fucking grating.
Now, I can't really argue with their #1 and #2, though you could easily switch positions. And they missed Shadowbane, but that may be more of a personal disappointment.
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Goreschach
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How the fuck much did they get paid to not put MW2 on this list?
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Ingmar
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Missing WAR from my own list. And fucking Lionheart. I'm still kind of pissed about that one. Oh and Pool of Radiance: Ruins of Myth Drannor.
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Rasix
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Asheron's Call 2. We are a bit more of a MMO focused crowd here. That game let down anyone that had any expectations of it.
WAR certainly qualifies.
I think you could make a list with just MMOs.
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Sky
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I think you could make a list with just MMOs.
The genre /was/ the disappointment of the decade. All the promise of the late 90s and we got WoW.
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I think you could make a list with just MMOs.
The genre /was/ the disappointment of the decade. All the promise of the late 90s and we got WoW. Pretty much. WoW was decent fun and showed how to polish, but it sure would be nice if someone could get something together that puts it to shame. Or at least doesn't make me laugh/cry when I try to play it.
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Fordel
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Now, I can't really argue with their #1 and #2, though you could easily switch positions. And they missed Shadowbane, but that may be more of a personal disappointment.
Was going to post this. I can't argue with their Top choice. What a cluster fuck.
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Asheron's Call 2. We are a bit more of a MMO focused crowd here. That game let down anyone that had any expectations of it.
WAR certainly qualifies.
I think you could make a list with just MMOs.
Yeah. Haven't enjoyed a FPS since Wolfenstein 3-D so can't comment on that genre. But I'd add Anarchy Online to MMO list. Any Command & Conquer release during the decade. Majesty 2, Rise of Nations, Kohan 2. OH, FORGOT ABOUT SPORE WHICH WAS HERALDED AS GAMING-JESUS NIRVANA, BUT WAS MEH.
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stray
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Asheron's Call 2. We are a bit more of a MMO focused crowd here. That game let down anyone that had any expectations of it.
WAR certainly qualifies.
I think you could make a list with just MMOs.
Haha... I wonder where I fit in then, since AC2 was the first MMO I even played... picked it up on a whim. I suppose I've been jaded from the very start.
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OH, FORGOT ABOUT SPORE WHICH WAS HERALDED AS GAMING-JESUS NIRVANA, BUT WAS MEH. Good call. I was so excited about it when it was first announced, and then it went progressively downhill. Seeing SW:G game footage made me angry about the lost opportunities there all over again. 
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stray
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I'm more mad at myself for putting more than 2 hrs into it. Looking back at that footage, you can clearly see just how hopeless it was.
Don't think I admitted this before, but I lasted maybe a month.... got angry at how shitty it was.. happened to run across a sploit. And cheated my way into getting tons of credits/faction points and started raping everything with 2 ATST's. Unfortunately, that sucked too.
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Rasix
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Haha... I wonder where I fit in then, since AC2 was the first MMO I even played... picked it up on a whim. I suppose I've been jaded from the very start.
If you had no expectations, I think you could have done OK depending on when you came in. At launch? Man, you'd hate the genre forever. I actually had fun in AC2 (mainly because I exploited and PK'd heavily), but it was still a pile of shit. The game didn't even have stable chat. Taking a crack at the MMO list (in rough order. It's hard to rank a shit above a turd.): 1. Star Wars Galaxies 2. Warhammer Online 3. Asheron's Call 2 4. Shadowbane 5. Horizons 6. Anarchy Online 7. Auto Assault 8. Conan 9. Hellgate: London (is this really even a MMO?) (replace with Planetside if you need to) 10. Pirates of the Burning Sea There's more that could be added if we consider their release versions, especially EQ2. And there have been games that have progressively gone down the primrose path like UO. And then again there were games with modest aspirations that still managed to suck or fail at claiming a niche (Darkfall, other PVP adherant drivel). Going to be hard for me to add to this list in the future. If it looks like it's going to suck, I'm not going to buy at release anymore just to get a leg up or out of curiousity. The MMO genre's free pass to my money expired with WAR.
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« Last Edit: March 08, 2010, 01:53:48 PM by Rasix »
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NowhereMan
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I think I ignore hype too much to really get onboard with most of this. Shadowbane definitely deserved a place on that though for giving a glimpse of an awesome game and dynamic, player driven world buried under a metric shit ton of bugs. I'm also tempted to stick Horizons on it just for the steep, steep slope of what they original envisaged (multi-race (with actually distinct races) faction driven world-wide PvP) down to what actually came out (shitty EQ clone, post WoW). MGS2 doesn't really deserve to be that high though, it was a disappointment to not have Snake but I don't think that qualifies the whole game for the list.
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Malakili
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Spore has to be on that list. I think they could have done away with Galaxies and put just the entire genre at number 1. Galaxies isn't on my list though, I'd rather play buggy grindy Galaxies than most recent MMO releases.
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stray
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I would not rank Shadowbane as too much of a disappointment, because from the start, I talked crap about it.. Some friend of mine was really stoked though, and ended up dragging me in. It looked like shit, and the idea of getting assraped everywhere didn't appeal. A couple weeks into it though, I was having a blast. Despite the problems, if I got sb.exed or something... I was dying to log back in. It was a fun game when it worked. I only quit because I lost everything (that Ubi themselves took away... not any PKs).
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Soln
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I thought EQ2 should be up there as well. Definitely made a thud when after WoW landed. Although, it plays much better now.
Anyways SGW as the #1 disappointment is saying something. Dunno is STO will match it.
Maybe WAR will be after 2010?
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HaemishM
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As has been said, the MMO medium could win the entire list on its own. It is one festering pool of disappointment and despair.
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No Tabula Rasa? Granted, it was sorta doomed from the get go, but still...it did release - right?
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tgr
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It's a pity ubisoft put out the new DRM system in 2010, so technically it's in the new decade, but otherwise I would've put them right up there with MW2 (which I also think should be right up there on the list).
And spore has to be up there as well. Not only did it have one of the first activation-based schemes, but it also overpromised heavily and delivered what I could only call a kiddie game (dancing cock'n'balls monsters nonwithstanding).
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schild
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I'm not watching a gametrailers video for a list that is undoubtedly wrong.
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IainC
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It's a pity ubisoft put out the new DRM system in 2010, so technically it's in the new decade, but otherwise I would've put them right up there with MW2 (which I also think should be right up there on the list).
Only if you're counting from some completely arbitrary starting point. Our calendar begins at 1AD so generally we count decades from xx01 to xx10.
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Samwise
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I'm not watching a gametrailers video for a list that is undoubtedly wrong.
lol, that's exactly what I said, but I broke down and watched it anyway to see if Spore was on there. It wasn't. Hence, wrong.
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tgr
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Only if you're counting from some completely arbitrary starting point. Our calendar begins at 1AD so generally we count decades from xx01 to xx10.
Jeez, you're right. Serves me right for being a programmer, all my arrays start at 0. That means Ubisoft is up there along with MW2. Yay, all is right with the world.
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Rasix
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I think Ubi is probably pretty happy with MW2. 
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It's a pity ubisoft put out the new DRM system in 2010, so technically it's in the new decade, but otherwise I would've put them right up there with MW2 (which I also think should be right up there on the list).
Only if you're counting from some completely arbitrary starting point. Our calendar begins at 1AD so generally we count decades from xx01 to xx10. Not this shit again.
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tgr
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I think Ubi is probably pretty happy with MW2.  To clarify: ubisoft is up there on my list for being at the forefront with bad (for consumers) protection schemes. MW2 because it went from awesome, to meh, to oh my god this is horrible, with announcement after announcement of features/lack thereof/etc.
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Malakili
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It's a pity ubisoft put out the new DRM system in 2010, so technically it's in the new decade, but otherwise I would've put them right up there with MW2 (which I also think should be right up there on the list).
Only if you're counting from some completely arbitrary starting point. Our calendar begins at 1AD so generally we count decades from xx01 to xx10. Right, thats why people commonly refer to 1980 as part of the 70s. Oh wait.
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Strazos
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Majesty 2, Rise of Nations, Kohan 2.
OH, FORGOT ABOUT SPORE WHICH WAS HERALDED AS GAMING-JESUS NIRVANA, BUT WAS MEH.
What's the beef with Kohan 2?
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schild
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How was Rise of Nations a disappointment? It was ridiculously fucking amazing. Rise of Legends I could get behind. But Nations? Bahahahaha, NO. Not a disappointment. Edit: On second though: Haven't enjoyed a FPS since Wolfenstein 3-D so can't comment on that genre. Surprised I got past that comment. Why even game at this point?
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Sir T
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You can enjoy the new thrill of being able to look up and down?
Anyway, hard to argue with the list
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stray
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Like I said, it's a solely a fucked up list just for putting MGS2 there. I guess I agree with the rest. As for the weirdness... that's partly why I even like Kojima games over other military type games. Arguably, Splinter Cell has some better "game" ideas, but storywise, he manages to be surreal in the most mundane/familiar type of settings/circumstances. And.. he can break the "4th wall" in some of the funniest ways. Most games of this type take themselves too seriously.
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