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dusematic
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on: February 28, 2010, 05:46:07 PM

Protip:  I wouldn't turn on my PS3 until this blows over.


Was playing Heavy Rain.  Beat it, and an achievement botched and my system hard crashed and required a manual reboot.  Now it will not connect to the network or play any games.


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Edit:  Also on Kotaku and Engadget but I know linking to those sites is sort of frowned on.
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Reply #1 on: February 28, 2010, 05:49:29 PM

Update:  http://boardsus.playstation.com/t5/PlayStation-Network/8001050F-Error-message/td-p/45309292/page/17


Not an isolated problem, reports coming in from everywhere.  Now rumor has it that someone hacked the network and installed a trojan that was embedded in the last firmware and wasn't set to detonate until tonight.


Edit:  Apparently it has something to do with corrupting people's Trophy data, which makes sense because mine are all botched to hell, and that's what precipitated the problem.  Also, the clock is set back to 1999.

Edit:  Tried a hard reset of the system but it didn't work.  Not sure if I did another hard reset and didn't connect to the internet whether I could play games.  I'm thinking no.
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Reply #2 on: February 28, 2010, 06:14:00 PM

Holy shit, now people are saying all the PS3's that have been compromised are toast.  There goes my original 60 GB model with backwards compat.  I'm out of warranty too.  If  my shit is borked and Sony doesn't replace my hardware for free when they all but demand you to download firmware updates, and one of those firmware updates ruined my hardware?  Then I'm going to be exceedingly irate.  That's the kind of animosity I could easily harbor until the universe dies an entropic heat death.
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Reply #3 on: February 28, 2010, 06:26:20 PM

WHY AREN'T MORE PEOPLE FREAKING OUT ABOUT THIS? 
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Reply #4 on: February 28, 2010, 06:30:21 PM

WHY AREN'T MORE PEOPLE FREAKING OUT ABOUT THIS? 

I don't have a PS3?



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Reply #5 on: February 28, 2010, 06:37:15 PM

Ok now people are saying that it's a date glitch.  Like a Y2K type deal, and that even peeps who aren't online are having the problem, so it must be a native inborn date glitch/code botch.
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Reply #6 on: February 28, 2010, 06:37:57 PM

WHY AREN'T MORE PEOPLE FREAKING OUT ABOUT THIS? 

As long as they get it fixed before God of War 3 I'll be fine.  Besides that I'm waiting to see what the actual issue is.  I'm not going to assume that the most likely answer is that someone hacked the servers and put a trojan in that will fry all PS3's.  Could just be a stupid software fuck-up that Sony can fix.  I'm just not in panic mode yet.
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Reply #7 on: February 28, 2010, 06:41:57 PM

WHY AREN'T MORE PEOPLE FREAKING OUT ABOUT THIS? 

As long as they get it fixed before God of War 3 I'll be fine.  Besides that I'm waiting to see what the actual issue is.  I'm not going to assume that the most likely answer is that someone hacked the servers and put a trojan in that will fry all PS3's.  Could just be a stupid software fuck-up that Sony can fix.  I'm just not in panic mode yet.


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Reply #8 on: February 28, 2010, 06:42:21 PM

I would be hard pressed to believe someone magically programmed a trojan (without a dev kit, mind you) to operate on the PS3's basically alien architecture and closed system, injecting it into both their servers and merging in into their firmware update files - I think you can safely completely disregard this.
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Reply #9 on: February 28, 2010, 06:46:31 PM

WHY AREN'T MORE PEOPLE FREAKING OUT ABOUT THIS?  

Putting my son to bed, not playing my PS3.

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Reply #10 on: February 28, 2010, 07:01:19 PM

Anything with trophy data as part of the game won't work, but my Disgaea 3 that I never updated to get trophy data still works just fine, as does the PS2 game I fired up to test it.  So while it's a rather stupid bug/situation, I doubt any systems are bricked because of it. 
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Reply #11 on: February 28, 2010, 07:05:57 PM

I am pretty upset right now. Just got back from Bestbuy with 2 new PS3 games, and cant play ether one.
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Reply #12 on: February 28, 2010, 07:18:32 PM

If the League of Legends servers went down, I might have noticed. It is bothering me that I can't play Heavy Rain right now.
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Reply #13 on: February 28, 2010, 07:21:03 PM

i haven't turned mine on in a few days. wtf is going on? i can't even turn it on now... ? kind of thought i might play a game tonight.
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Reply #14 on: February 28, 2010, 07:27:34 PM

You can turn it on, just you will not be able to play any game which includes Trophy support at the moment if you're using one of the "old" PS3 versions (apparently the new Slims are fine, last I heard)

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Reply #15 on: February 28, 2010, 07:30:06 PM

Cool thanks.
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Reply #16 on: February 28, 2010, 07:49:53 PM

Confirmed this is limited to those of us with the out of shape (fat) PS3's:

Quote from: SonyPlayStation
Readers/followers are confirming that "slim" units (120/250 GB models) are connecting normally.

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Reply #17 on: February 28, 2010, 08:05:41 PM

Haven't tried connecting to PSN (don't go online with my PS3 very often), but for the time being my PS3 seems to be working normally.  Heavy Rain seems to be working normally, and I just played a bit of the God of War Collection, so games with trophy support seem to be functioning fine.  For the record I have a 40GB PS3 (it's not a slim).  Last time I connected to PSN was to get the Heavy Rain demo on the 6th, and I believe I have the most recent firmware.
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Reply #18 on: February 28, 2010, 09:27:38 PM

This is just payback from the PS3 slim owners over the controller sync issues. Did they ever fix that?

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Reply #19 on: February 28, 2010, 09:53:47 PM


It sounds more like a patch with insufficient regression testing.

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Reply #20 on: March 01, 2010, 12:16:38 AM

After reading this I checked mine, and it seems to be affecting it (60GB CECHA model).  This will make me very upset if I want to play a PS3 game before it is resolved.

I've had my PS3 off since early yesterday, (red light 'inactive' off, not manual switch off) and I physically yanked the network cable before powering it up to check, so either it downloaded something stealthily or it was an inherent issue in the hardware itself that just got triggered somehow.

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Reply #21 on: March 01, 2010, 12:55:56 AM

I turned mine on for the first time in ages (months) today and applied the system update. Though my cat sleeping on the remotes had turned it on a few days ago, Might go yank the cable and test it out.

Did so. Played a race in Motorstorm. No problems. (60gb slim, btw)

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Reply #22 on: March 01, 2010, 07:52:27 AM

On the bright side for once gamers aren't the only ones getting screwed.
http://www.develop-online.net/news/33995/Now-developers-PS3s-are-hit-by-system-errors

Oh wait that will affect us later =p
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Reply #23 on: March 01, 2010, 07:58:05 AM

FWIW, I had the problem both before AND after installing the last firmware patch.  Didn't try any games, but can confirm that Netflix was not working, obviously.

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Reply #24 on: March 01, 2010, 08:01:23 AM

WHY AREN'T MORE PEOPLE FREAKING OUT ABOUT THIS? 

Yeah it really pissed me off last night. Me and the wife put the kids to bed and were all ready to continue with some Heavy Rain (she has been watching and following along), and then we can't even play. If they don't get this shit straightened out by tonight I will be in full nerdrage mode.
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Reply #25 on: March 01, 2010, 08:17:46 AM

I'm kind of glad I don't bother to connect my PS3 to the internet...

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Reply #26 on: March 01, 2010, 08:22:17 AM

I'm kind of glad I don't bother to connect my PS3 to the internet...

Why? Because in its over 3 year history the network has been down once?

Why? Because that has absolutely nothing to do with the current problem.
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Reply #27 on: March 01, 2010, 08:22:52 AM

I'm kind of glad I don't bother to connect my PS3 to the internet...

From everything i read it doesn't have much to do with PSN itself.  It seems to be some bad leap year logic in the firmware in older PS3s.  This could be wrong of course, cause everyone is just speculating and no one seems to know what the real issue is (including Sony)
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Reply #28 on: March 01, 2010, 08:29:06 AM

I'm kind of glad I don't bother to connect my PS3 to the internet...

That won't necessarily help... Looks almost like some programmer forgot to make the field for the clock big enough.


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Reply #29 on: March 01, 2010, 08:32:57 AM

Wonder if you will be able to flash via the PSN or have to do a USB stick upgrade

Oh well my 80gb is effected but I can still stream video so no biggie.
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Reply #31 on: March 01, 2010, 08:58:46 AM

My big concern, being that most indications seem to point to this being a clock problem, that the issue is so low level it cannot be fixed via firmware update. Hopefully this is something Sony can quickly rectify though, being that March was supposed to be one of the biggest months for PS3 gaming thus far (Heavy Rain, FFXIII, God of War III).

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Reply #32 on: March 01, 2010, 09:28:20 AM

So, if what a lot of the theories online suggest is true, the problem will fix its self. Seems Sony is going with "Lets wait and let it fix its self".

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As you may be aware, some customers have been unable to connect to the PlayStation Network today. This problem affects the models other than the new slim PS3.
We believe we have identified that this problem is being caused by a bug in the clock functionality incorporated in the system.
Errors include:
* The date of the PS3 system may be re-set to Jan 1, 2000.
* When the user tries to sign-in to the PlayStation Network, the following message appears on the screen; "An error has occurred. You have been signed out of PlayStation Network (8001050F)".
* When the user tries to launch a game, the following error message appears on the screen and the trophy data may disappear; "Failed to install trophies. Please exit your game."
* When the user tries to set the time and date of the system via the Internet, the following message appears on the screen; "The current date and time could not be obtained. (8001050F)"
* Users are not able to playback certain rental video downloaded from the PlayStation Store before the expiration date.
We hope to resolve this problem within the next 24 hours. In the meantime, if you have a model other than the new slim PS3, we advise that you do not use your PS3 system, as doing so may result in errors in some functionality, such as recording obtained trophies, and not being able to restore certain data.
As mentioned above, Please be advised that the new slim PS3 is not affected with this error. We are doing our best to resolve the issue and do apologize for any inconvenience caused.
For the latest status on this situation please check either the PlayStation blog (blog.us.playstation.com) or PlayStation.com.
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Reply #33 on: March 01, 2010, 09:34:30 AM

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Reply #34 on: March 01, 2010, 09:50:15 AM

Sigh. I am affected. And my kiddo turned it on RIGHT before I could stop him, like in the movies.

Father: "Wait, what are you doing? don't touch the Playst...... !"
Son: "What? I am not going to play, don't worry, I just wanted to check my PES trophies"
Father: "Noooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo!"
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