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MrHat
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on: January 10, 2005, 08:32:36 AM

"We are looking into offering a one-time character transfer to a low pop server right now, but it will be a few days before we work out all the logistics." - Ordinn, Community Manager

I wonder how that's going to work out.
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Reply #1 on: January 10, 2005, 08:39:02 AM

I'll laugh if the current high pop servers become low pop servers while simultaneously turning the low pop servers into high pop servers.

The current band-aid approach that Blizzard is using seems rather troublesome.  I appreciate thier willingness to address their customer's concerns, but some of the situations that they've been rushing to fix would really take care of themself with time.

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Reply #2 on: January 10, 2005, 08:49:18 AM

If they do this, I will consider moving my main character from Earthen Ring to someplace else.  The  more I play this server, the more I dislike it.

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Reply #3 on: January 10, 2005, 08:51:45 AM

Good, now all of the active PvE server players can move to Shadowsong so I have more than 2 people to bug in tells.  Our group could really use another 40+ body for some of these damn instances.

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Reply #4 on: January 10, 2005, 09:09:06 AM

This is the trouble Righ is having, too.  He's 45, I think, and having trouble finding groups for the instances, too.  I bet he can be pretty easily persuaded.  As for me... I'm very slow so you would have make alts to play with me.  But it will be worth it!  I've been told I'm a good time girl!  I'm sure it's meant in the nicest possible way.

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Reply #5 on: January 10, 2005, 09:20:31 AM

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.. I've been told I'm a good time girl!  I'm sure it's meant in the nicest possible way.


Or maybe you were just role-playing at the time.

I'm currently on a high pop server, but you're all more than welcome to come join me, getting sick of this guild me and my buddies joined.  They said they want to avoid swearing in the guild channel "for the children".  What ever happened to the swear filter.

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Reply #6 on: January 10, 2005, 09:27:34 AM

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I'm currently on a high pop server, but you're all more than welcome to come join me, getting sick of this guild me and my buddies joined.  They said they want to avoid swearing in the guild channel "for the children".  What ever happened to the swear filter.

Fucking Cocks.


Haha.  My group is having a hard time finding a guild that fits us.  We had one in mind, but then the guild master had to be the same person that continually hit on my friend's female toon.  No swearing? I don't think I can survive in WoW without saying "hey, a fucking night elf hunter, how fucking original" at least once an hour.

Actually on a PvE server, I don't see a point right now to joining a guild. Once the battlegrounds are up (if ever), then we might need one.

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Reply #7 on: January 10, 2005, 09:47:49 AM

They should be considering the opposite, and close down a low-pop server or two and allow transfers to higher-pop servers.  Who wants to move from NYC to Iowa, after all?
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Reply #8 on: January 10, 2005, 10:28:19 AM

Quote from: chinslim
They should be considering the opposite, and close down a low-pop server or two and allow transfers to higher-pop servers.  Who wants to move from NYC to Iowa, after all?


Well if NYC was lagging and dropping connections all the time and had a que to even get in, then you might consider moving.
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Reply #9 on: January 10, 2005, 12:44:56 PM

In case you hadn't noticed, midwestern servers were among the first to fill up.  

Yes Iowa is in the midwest....right next to Chicago...so is the whole state of Texas.  Nice try.
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Reply #10 on: January 10, 2005, 12:51:54 PM

Next on Fox: "When Analogies Attack!"  

This is so WoW can get their server population balance a bit more in check. This isn't so friends can level up on a non crowded server and then pack into a dense pvp or rp server.  They're not doing this to be nice, they're doing this because it might help some of their server situations which are still unresolved.

They're probably just gathering metrics on what servers they're going to allow people to move to and from which servers they'll allow the moves. I'll give some hints on what servers might not be on the list to move to: the high pop server you bailed from in the first place or the PVP server you didn't think you could handle at the start.   This  will be interesting to see how this plays out.  My money's on a giant clusterfuck followed by much griping on the boards .

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Reply #11 on: January 10, 2005, 01:07:53 PM

Horde PvErs should get their act together and consolidate every serious player on 15 servers or so.  That way, Horde may be able to field a raid by March.

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Reply #12 on: January 10, 2005, 01:33:44 PM

Quote from: MrHat
"We are looking into offering a one-time character transfer to a low pop server right now, but it will be a few days before we work out all the logistics." - Ordinn, Community Manager

I wonder how that's going to work out.

This should help out the overcrowding problem on the PvP servers since there's about 15 PvP servers that are still at "Low" as I type this (1:30PM Pacific) and there's 13 PvP servers at High.
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Reply #13 on: January 10, 2005, 01:38:47 PM

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My money's on a giant clusterfuck followed by much griping on the boards .


I think you can take that one to the bank.

I hope they allow transfers of PvE characters to a PvP server, just for the ensuing teeth gnashing (I happen to think it would be quite unfair, but the entertainment factor may just trump the fairness).

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Reply #14 on: January 10, 2005, 01:39:42 PM

Quote from: chinslim
They should be considering the opposite, and close down a low-pop server or two and allow transfers to higher-pop servers.  Who wants to move from NYC to Iowa, after all?

The "Central" servers are actually hosted at the same place as the "Eastern" servers -- Washington D.C. Blizzard made a mistake when they first setup the servers by having Central and Mountain zones cause physically there's only the Washington D.C. and Los Angeles data centers. So a lot of Guilds rushed to the Central servers (to split the difference on pings between West and East coast players) not realizing they were the same as the Eastern servers.
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Reply #15 on: January 10, 2005, 02:19:38 PM

Sweet. I hope this works out. My first character is on a ridiculously crowded server. I have started an alt on a different server, and the difference is unreal.

The database lag on the Auction House..on resurrecting, etc. is almost non-existent.

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Reply #16 on: January 10, 2005, 02:37:24 PM

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In case you hadn't noticed, midwestern servers were among the first to fill up.

Yes Iowa is in the midwest....right next to Chicago...so is the whole state of Texas. Nice try.


I think Chinslin's point was that people won't want to move from the more heavily populated, "happening" servers to the almost-empty, can't-get-a-group boondocks servers rather than "nobody lives in the midwest we want to stay in our East Coast-labelled servers."  You people in flyover country are so oversensitive.

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Reply #17 on: January 10, 2005, 03:06:48 PM

Quote from: Trippy

This should help out the overcrowding problem on the PvP servers since there's about 15 PvP servers that are still at "Low" as I type this (1:30PM Pacific) and there's 13 PvP servers at High.


I doubt it. PVPers all want to play on the same server so they can gank each other. As witnessed by a majority of the big pvp guilds consolidating on the idea of starting on the same general servers at retail launch. It's no fun to pvp on a low population server, because the point is to gank other players.

PvE people on the other hand like it in the middle. They dont want high population, dont want sparse low population. But between the two, they want it on the low end of "middle" rather than overpopulated.

I am betting the populations on the pvp servers will shift very little.
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Reply #18 on: January 10, 2005, 06:46:29 PM

It'll certainly be interesting to see how this turns out. I want to move for sure, Icecrown sucks. I really hope they allow us to move to PvP servers .. the only reason I joined a PvE server is 'cause my friends are a bunch frickin' carebears - though I think now that they are more comfortable with the game they'd be ok with a PvP server.

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Reply #19 on: January 10, 2005, 07:31:05 PM

Quote from: Viin
It'll certainly be interesting to see how this turns out. I want to move for sure, Icecrown sucks. I really hope they allow us to move to PvP servers .. the only reason I joined a PvE server is 'cause my friends are a bunch frickin' carebears - though I think now that they are more comfortable with the game they'd be ok with a PvP server.


I know I'm on a PvE server until I can learn the game a bit better. I have alts started on a PvP server, just below lvl 20 and when I'll have to start venturing into contested zones. Once I get a hold of how my class plays better, I hope to make the full move to PvP server, as this PvE business is pretty boring. I hate walking by someone from the opposite faction because we both have /pvp off.

'course I'm also greatly behind the leveling curve, so that doesn't help either.

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Reply #20 on: January 10, 2005, 07:57:57 PM

I will gladly transfer my character if I can get with some non-random people for grouping or just to play with.

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Reply #21 on: January 10, 2005, 07:59:24 PM

[1. General - Durotar] [Heyamon]: Who wants to raid the alliance mon?
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Legolas spits on you.
Legolas spits on you.
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[1. General - Durotar] [Heyamon]: Meesa wanna raid mon! Who with me?
Legolas brushes up against you and farts loudly.
Legolas spits on you.

- Both of these jerks are unflagged and annoying.

- On a PvP server you can just swing at Legolas and kill him.

- On a non-PvP server you can create an Alliance character and kill Heyamon when he gets flagged.

Both have their merits, but if Blizzard are dumb enough to let me hit 60 on an RP server and then transfer that character to a PvP server, I'd love to partake of the injustice.

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Reply #22 on: January 10, 2005, 08:06:29 PM

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Reply #23 on: January 10, 2005, 08:12:30 PM

Quote from: Righ
[1. General - Durotar] [Heyamon]: Who wants to raid the alliance mon?
Legolas spits on you.
Legolas spits on you.
Legolas spits on you.
With arms flapping, Legolas struts around you. Cluck, Cluck, Chicken!
[1. General - Durotar] [Heyamon]: Meesa wanna raid mon! Who with me?
Legolas brushes up against you and farts loudly.
Legolas spits on you.

- Both of these jerks are unflagged and annoying.

- On a PvP server you can just swing at Legolas and kill him.

- On a non-PvP server you can create an Alliance character and kill Heyamon when he gets flagged.

Both have their merits, but if Blizzard are dumb enough to let me hit 60 on an RP server and then transfer that character to a PvP server, I'd love to partake of the injustice.


No way will they let pve to pvp transfers...why should those people get the benefits of leveling up with no challenge in peace and then getting to gank lvl 25s in Hillsbrad?  You have to EARN that right through 60 levels of getting ganked yourself.

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Reply #24 on: January 11, 2005, 11:41:21 AM

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 You have to EARN that right through 60 levels of getting ganked yourself.


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Reply #25 on: January 11, 2005, 11:52:29 AM

How ya all been?

If it goes down, we have a nice guild at Shadow Moon which is a Med pop Eastern PvP server. Im a 50 undead priest...The pop is a little heavy alliance, but I like the challenge.

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Reply #26 on: January 11, 2005, 01:07:57 PM

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...You people in flyover country are so oversensitive.


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Reply #27 on: January 11, 2005, 03:07:53 PM

The Horde on my server has adapted to the alliance mass by simply adopting a hive-mind. A worldwide, inter-guild full-population defense network comprising of multiple subject channels centralizes observation and coordinated retaliation.

There are attacks daily by coordinated guild actions, but so far as yet, no attack on Tarren Mill, Crossroads, Bloodhoof, or the capital cities has been initiated without at least a 5 minute window of warning and response - they are observed by roaming parties who report in guild names and levels. When the raid occurs, there's already a big group standing by, ported or hearthed in, ready to rout the poor fuckers the second they touch the guards.

Also, anyone who is anyone in the PvP world takes engineering, thus negating any attempts at shadowmeld tricks. :(
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Reply #28 on: January 11, 2005, 03:25:23 PM

Quote from: Samprimary

Also, anyone who is anyone in the PvP world takes engineering, thus negating any attempts at shadowmeld tricks. :(


Speaking of, which Rhodes Scholar decided the Perception ability should be given to humans?  Because you know Humans have big problems with Night Elves.

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Reply #29 on: January 11, 2005, 03:27:13 PM

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No way will they let pve to pvp transfers...why should those people get the benefits of leveling up with no challenge in peace and then getting to gank lvl 25s in Hillsbrad?  You have to EARN that right through 60 levels of getting ganked yourself.


It should be pointed out that the catasses that start on day one of a PvP server do not get ganked on their way to 60, and therefore by your argument  haven't earned their rights. Naturally it would be unjust. The whole idea of moving to another server itself is unjust - they guys on the crowded servers have more drops, more cash in the economy, and more people to trade with.  The indignation you express is exactly the sort of thing that amuses me, and the board meltdown would be so sweet.

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Reply #30 on: January 11, 2005, 08:13:04 PM

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No way will they let pve to pvp transfers...why should those people get the benefits of leveling up with no challenge in peace and then getting to gank lvl 25s in Hillsbrad? You have to EARN that right through 60 levels of getting ganked yourself.


Yeesh, PVP servers are not THAT cutthroat to merit a distinction between PVE and PVP toons.  I think anyone who was able to level in the peace and boredom of pure PVE earns some kind of gold star sticker too.
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Reply #31 on: January 18, 2005, 05:54:43 PM

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My money's on a giant clusterfuck followed by much griping on the boards .


I ain't betting against that.
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Reply #32 on: January 18, 2005, 09:48:09 PM

Quote from: Ganon
No way will they let pve to pvp transfers...why should those people get the benefits of leveling up with no challenge in peace and then getting to gank lvl 25s in Hillsbrad?  You have to EARN that right through 60 levels of getting ganked yourself.


Because we all know that all PvPers value  fair play.

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Reply #33 on: January 19, 2005, 10:17:07 AM

I predict they won't restrict crossing back and forth from PvP to PvE.  I also predict PvP servers will see a huge jump in the percentage of lvl 55+ characters on both sides.

From my viewpoint, I would think true PvPers would want this.  You'll basically have a much fuller endgame right away only 2 months from release.  That is, putting aside your own personal feelings that people must "pay their dues" to be a true leet ganka.

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Reply #34 on: January 19, 2005, 12:12:03 PM

I'd consider a move to a pvp server if I was level capped. I'd certainly enjoy the open pvp environment at that point. It's the previous 58 level-ups that I wouldn't want to endure under constant gank alert. I'd have to play a stinking night elf just so I could go afk to take a dump, and nobody should have to do that.
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