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Topic: 2nd Annual NFL playoff prediction contest (Read 15082 times)
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Trippy
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Norv has made it to a Conference Championship, at least (2007 season with the Chargers). Wade has never been past the Divisional round as a head coach.
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shiznitz
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Watching Flacco play these last few games makes me wonder how people (including me) thought the Ravens ever had a chance in hell. NF: teams don't go to the Superbowl with mediocre QBs - unless that QB is having a breakout year like Manning did. Still, the Giants won on close-your-eyes-and-pray pass.
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naum
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Watching Flacco play these last few games makes me wonder how people (including me) thought the Ravens ever had a chance in hell. NF: teams don't go to the Superbowl with mediocre QBs - unless that QB is having a breakout year like Manning did. Still, the Giants won on close-your-eyes-and-pray pass.
Flacco a different QB in post-season than regular season. In both seasons, his playoff QB rating is half of what it is during regular season play (80/88 for 2008-09 regular season, 50/39 for 2008-2009 playoffs)… …Ravens running game and defense have carried them to 3-2 playoff mark last 2 years. But the defense is still no resemblance of the 2000 season that delivered SB title to Trent Dilfer led squad. |
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HaemishM
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Watching Flacco play these last few games makes me wonder how people (including me) thought the Ravens ever had a chance in hell. NF: teams don't go to the Superbowl with mediocre QBs - unless that QB is having a breakout year like Manning did. Still, the Giants won on close-your-eyes-and-pray pass.
Trent Dilfer doesn't want to disagree with you, but he really really has to. So do Doug Williams, Brad Johnson, Mark Rypien, Jeff Hostetler and Jim McMahon. Teams can win with mediocre QB's. And Flacco seems like at least twice the QB Dilfer was on the same type of team that Dilfer won with. He needs a Shannon Sharpe, though, and he doesn't currently have a receiver who can game in game out catch the ball in traffic. |
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Draegan
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You forgot Big Ben in his first Super Bowl.
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Montague
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You forgot Big Ben in his first Super Bowl.
There's a difference between being a mediocre/bad quarterback and having a bad game. Roethlisberger is a franchise QB with all the tools needed for a HOF career. You can't say the same about Dilfer, Johnson, Doug Williams, et. al. |
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Sjofn
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Doug Williams says differently.
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Cyrrex
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Nebu, as much as I want to see Roethlisberger shatter both his legs in a freak locker room showering accident, I disagree. He's already won two Super Bowls - and unless I'm mistaken, only Jim Plunkett has won two without making it into the HOF. And Roethlisberger is WAAAAY better than Plunkett ever was. If Ben wins a third, he's practically a shoe-in.
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Nebu
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Nebu, as much as I want to see Roethlisberger shatter both his legs in a freak locker room showering accident, I disagree. He's already won two Super Bowls - and unless I'm mistaken, only Jim Plunkett has won two without making it into the HOF. And Roethlisberger is WAAAAY better than Plunkett ever was. If Ben wins a third, he's practically a shoe-in.
I agree and that's why I deleted my post. I took a deeper look at his stats and felt I was being overly critical. Still, the HoF is about how you play relative to both your peers and against history. Ben does well against history, but in a passing dominated era, he's not as strong a candidate. |
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Cyrrex
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Took me a while to complete my post, so I didn't see the deletion. Anyway, given his age and likely who will be going up against...he has the Super Bowl edge. Fair or not, it means a great deal in the mind of the voters.
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Nebu
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Took me a while to complete my post, so I didn't see the deletion. Anyway, given his age and likely who will be going up against...he has the Super Bowl edge. Fair or not, it means a great deal in the mind of the voters.
Voters feel that super bowls = team leadership. It's a sign of a quality QB to lead a team to and win the big game. Joe Montana won 4 super bowls and won three MVP's (this is from memory, excuse any errors) for example. That's a HoF QB. I think Ben has a shot, but it may take another big game for him to be a lock. |
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Cyrrex
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Yep, two is a strong case by itself. Two and a solid career are nearly a lock. Three is a lock, maybe even first ballot? I can't fucking believe I'm making a case for Ben fucking Roethlisberger. Let's talk about something else now.
Mark Sanchez: future HOFer?
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Sanchez is looking very, very good. And he seems to have his head screwed on right, unlike Leinart.
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shiznitz
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It is going to be Dirty Sanchez on Sunday. But Jets fans are used to shame and disappointment.
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Surlyboi
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Jets fans have nothing to be ashamed of from that run. They got a lot of teams to take them seriously this season.
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Tuned in, immediately get to watch cringey Ubisoft talking head offering her deepest sympathies to the families impacted by the Orlando shooting while flanked by a man in a giraffe suit and some sort of "horrifically garish neon costumes through the ages" exhibit or something. We need to stop this fucking planet right now and sort some shit out. -Kail
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HaemishM
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The Jets had to rely on Sanchez to win that game, and he didn't. That was all the Colts wanted. If he could beat them, the Jets deserved the Super Bowl. Of course, it didn't help the Jets that Greene got hurt, but still - your QB is there to win games for you. He couldn't. Give him time.
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Surlyboi
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Bingo. I didn't expect a rookie to go all the way against Manning and the Colts. He put on a good show early and he will be a force to be reckoned with in the future, but I'm happy with the showing and there's no shame in the result.
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Tuned in, immediately get to watch cringey Ubisoft talking head offering her deepest sympathies to the families impacted by the Orlando shooting while flanked by a man in a giraffe suit and some sort of "horrifically garish neon costumes through the ages" exhibit or something. We need to stop this fucking planet right now and sort some shit out. -Kail
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Cyrrex
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Yeah, good run by Sanchez and the Jets in general. Nothing at all to be ashamed of there.
Meanwhile, WTF Minnesota? Fumble much?
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shiznitz
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Final update:
Saints = Nebu
Colts = Trippy (by 1pt over Montague)
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Nebu
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Meanwhile, WTF Minnesota? Fumble much?
It's hard to hold onto the ball with both hands on your throat. Sometimes I hate being a Vikings fan. |
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Montague
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Final update:
Saints = Nebu
Colts = Trippy (by 1pt over Montague)
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Trippy
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Final update:
Saints = Nebu
Colts = Trippy (by 1pt over Montague)
DOH! Wait, how did I beat out Cyrrex? Did I do my math wrong earlier? |
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shiznitz
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No I messed up. I keep forgetting to read Cyrrex's edited paragraph. He initially predicted Vikings.
Colts - Cyrrex by 1pt over Trippy
Lesson: the early rounds do matter!
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Nebu
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Final update:
Saints = Nebu
Colts = Trippy (by 1pt over Montague)
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Abagadro
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Congrats on the NFL double this year.
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Cyrrex
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For once, I am quite glad that my pick was wrong.
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Slayerik
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Detroit Lions, Super Bowl Champs.
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