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Reply #3115 on: October 28, 2019, 02:44:42 PM

Now it's my wife's turn...

Her requirements are norrmal productivity stuff, and sometimes playing games with me at a reasonable quality. Doesn't need to run 4k or photograph black holes, etc.
I'm trying to find another case that will better fit in some HDDs from the older machines, so only the boot SSD is included here.

Please peruse and critique.

https://www.centrecom.com.au/buildpc/130968#
Is $1400 your budget limit or can you go higher?

Edit: add quote cause new page
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Reply #3116 on: October 28, 2019, 03:11:21 PM

We're really not wanting to take it much higher. She's not a "gamer" but plays games with me - not a primary hobby in the way that it is for many of us here.

Slightly updated (found a case that will fit more than 2x 3.5HDD) - otherwise the same.
https://www.centrecom.com.au/buildpc/130994#
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Reply #3117 on: October 28, 2019, 03:43:36 PM

If are willing to spend a bit more money I would go with this combo:

https://www.centrecom.com.au/asus-geforce-gtx-1660-tuf-gaming-oc-6gb-graphics-card

Better performance than the RX 580 and draws less power (AMD GPUs still suck).

And then I would get this power supply:

https://www.centrecom.com.au/corsair-550w-txm-semi-modular-80-gold-power-supply

Likely more reliable than the one you picked (7-year warranty vs 5-year) and is modular so fewer cables inside to deal with.

Note if you want to stick with the RX 580 I wouldn't recommend that power supply. With the RX 580 you'll want at least a 600W power supply. You can also keep your existing power supply with the above GTX 1660 to keep the price increase down.
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Reply #3118 on: October 28, 2019, 03:55:47 PM

Thanks a heap - that's all still within the budget.

Is the mobo okay? I was pretty much making a shot in the dark on that one.  swamp poop

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Reply #3119 on: October 28, 2019, 04:01:32 PM

Yeah it's fine for a budget build, there's a basic comparison table here at the bottom:

https://www.amd.com/en/products/chipsets-am4
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Reply #3120 on: October 30, 2019, 09:19:40 AM

Opinions on best Graphics Card in the 250-300 range right now?

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Reply #3121 on: October 30, 2019, 01:36:01 PM

GTX 1660 Ti:

https://www.newegg.com/p/pl?N=100007709%204814%208000&LeftPriceRange=250%20300&Order=PRICE

Edit: NVIDIA just released the 1660 Super which has near Ti levels of performance for $50 less. If you can find a Super card at or near the intended price ($229) that would give the best price/performance ratio in that price range right now.

https://www.anandtech.com/show/15010/the-nvidia-geforce-gtx-1660-super-review-feat-evga/16
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Reply #3122 on: November 25, 2019, 06:02:58 PM

The Mrs. has offered to authorize me to build a new rig in exchange for donating my old one to her for work, so I'm theory building right now. The 970 GTX in my current rig will carry over to the next build, with plans to replace in 2020/2021. For now, I've settled on a case, memory, CPU cooler, SSD, and power supply. Looking for opinions on the current state of affairs between Intel and AMD. Here are my proposed builds.

AMD: https://secure.newegg.com/Wishlist/SharedWishlistDetail?ID=k57vn2pjN0c4oaboqhXt1w%3d%3d

Intel: https://secure.newegg.com/Wishlist/SharedWishlistDetail?ID=2ftDJqyEbuE%3d

Verified that the CPU cooler will fit either build. I'm currently leaning toward the AMD build as the mobo is bleeding edge with support for a lot of the current tech out there.

Thoughts?

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Reply #3123 on: November 25, 2019, 06:10:17 PM

Unless you are planning on doing some kind of crazy overclocking, If you buy an AMD Ryzen that comes with a cooler, the stock cooler is more than adequate.

Also, Ryzen are better in price/performance and relative lack of speculative execution security vulnerabilities.

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Reply #3124 on: November 25, 2019, 06:16:06 PM

I don't plan on any manual overclocking. Just whatever turbo/enhanced mode the proc can do on it's own. I like the Noctuas on my current build because I can't hear them at all. I do not have the disposable income of my bachelor years anymore.

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Reply #3125 on: November 25, 2019, 06:17:33 PM

For both builds I would recommend more memory up front (i.e. 2x16 GB for 32 GB RAM) since those boards only have 2 memory slots so if you wanted to upgrade the memory in the future you wouldn't be able to use the original.

For the AMD build I would recommend DDR4 3200 RAM, e.g. something like this:

https://www.newegg.com/g-skill-32gb-288-pin-ddr4-sdram/p/N82E16820232299?Item=N82E16820232299

For the Intel build I would recommend DDR4 2666 RAM, e.g. something like this (it's slightly more expensive than the above cause it's CAS 15 vs 16):

https://www.newegg.com/g-skill-32gb-288-pin-ddr4-sdram/p/N82E16820231969?Item=N82E16820231969

Edit: you also might want to consider a slightly more powerful power supply (>= 650W) so you will have more video card choices in the future
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Reply #3126 on: November 25, 2019, 06:23:28 PM

Good point on the memory. 32 seems like way overkill even today, but those games are getting beefier by the quarter these days. Thank you for the tip :)

Edit: How much power would a single card draw? Can't dual-card with this build.

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Reply #3127 on: November 25, 2019, 06:32:25 PM

A GTX 2080's (inc. Super and Ti models) recommended power supply is 650W. On paper the power draw for the regular 2080 is 215W. The 2080 Ti is 250W.
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Reply #3128 on: November 25, 2019, 06:44:19 PM

Ah, hadn't realized. The 2070 Super was my current projected replacement for sometime next year.

Thank you again for the feedback :)

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Reply #3129 on: November 25, 2019, 06:57:38 PM

Here's a direct comparison between the 3600 and the 9400:

https://www.techspot.com/review/1885-ryzen-5-3600-vs-core-i5-9400f/
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Reply #3130 on: November 26, 2019, 09:27:15 PM

Ah, hadn't realized. The 2070 Super was my current projected replacement for sometime next year.

Thank you again for the feedback :)

2070 Super is the best on-paper comparison with the non-Super version, but 2080 Super (minor upgrade from 2080) seems to be where the action is pricewise at the moment. Market seems to be churning through heaps of 2080 Supers, bringing down price, at least here in Australia which is basically on the end of the Asian market. The value PC builders are all offering deals with 2080 Supers.
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Reply #3131 on: December 19, 2019, 09:27:02 AM

Do you have any thoughts/recommendations on 34" 21:9 1440 monitors? 

Seeing recommendations all over the map...

Acer: Predator X34 Pbmiphzx 34"
Alienware: AW3418DW
LG: 34UC89G-B 34"

I'm thinking of bumping up the GPU to 1070ti +/- but have an older Gigabyte GA-Z77X-D3H motherboard... any compatibility/upgrade issues I should be aware of?
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Reply #3132 on: February 15, 2020, 01:21:28 PM

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/6TtVmg

any improvements that are must-do while staying under $2k?

obviously the mobo (better/more usb or cooling setup?), psu (higher efficiency?) or ram (faster?) could be upgraded. I'm not sure there is much you can do to cpu/gpu with $200 that is worth it?

SSD's, Monitor, etc all coming over from previous rig that is being decommissioned. Do need to add either a Noctua air cooler or a enclosed system water cooler for the CPU. Could use some advice there.

Right now user games at 1080p/60hz so I think a new monitor may end up being in the cards but the old machine was dropping hella fps on MHW etc.
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Reply #3133 on: February 15, 2020, 04:59:16 PM

I'm thinking of bumping up the GPU to 1070ti +/- but have an older Gigabyte GA-Z77X-D3H motherboard... any compatibility/upgrade issues I should be aware of?
Motherboard compatibility shouldn't be an issue but you do need to check that the card will fit in your case if its longer than your current one, your power supply puts out enough power and has the PCIe power connectors the card needs.
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Reply #3134 on: February 15, 2020, 06:30:27 PM

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/6TtVmg

any improvements that are must-do while staying under $2k?

obviously the mobo, psu or ram could be upgraded. I'm not sure there is much you can do to cpu/gpu with $200 that is worth it?
Yes there's nothing you can do CPU or GPU-wise to stay under $2k with the 10980XE and 2080 Ti both being ~$500 increases in price each. You could move up a tier in power supplies to the PRIME Ultra line if you wanted slightly better components/tolerances compared to the FOCUS PLUS (reflected in the 12 year vs 10 year warranties).

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SSD's, Monitor, etc all coming over from previous rig that is being decommissioned. Do need to add either a Noctua air cooler or a enclosed system water cooler. Could use some advice there.
Do you need a case with a "legacy" component design (external 5.25" drive bays, lots of internal hard drive mounts)? If not something like the Phanteks 400A will allow for much more airflow through the case.

As for AIO vs air cooled a Noctua D15 or Dark Rock Pro 4 is going to as good or better than an AIO up to about 280mm given sufficient airflow through the case for the air cooled solution. A 360mm AIO will likely perform better than the behemoth top end air coolers, however. Even the U12A will be better than some of the smaller AIOs. Also note that it's often hard to compare coolers because the fans all run at different speeds and have different noise levels. E.g. a smallish AIO (like a 240mm) may outperform a D15 but that's because the AIO fans may be outputting 5 to 10db more noise than the Noctua fans.

With air cooled you also don't have to worry about leaks, the water pump failing and the coolant "evaporating" (permeating the tube) over time. On the other hand AIOs give you a much cleaner internal look, usually have better component clearance, can have a lot of bling with the RGB models and LCD displays and are much safer to leave in place when moving a system around a lot.
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Reply #3135 on: February 20, 2020, 10:31:46 PM


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Reply #3136 on: February 20, 2020, 10:40:01 PM

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Reply #3137 on: March 14, 2020, 04:27:09 PM

Hello everyone.  Can I have some help with upgrade advice?

I currently have this board https://www.newegg.com/gigabyte-ga-970a-d3/p/N82E16813128521?Item=N82E16813128521 along with 8gb ram, 600w PS, a Radeon 6850, Hybrid 1TB HD, AMD FX-4170 Zambezi Quad-Core 4.2GHz (4.3GHz Turbo) Socket AM3+

I got all that in 2012, so I was thinking maybe it's time to upgrade.

My first pass thoughts is this

https://secure.newegg.com/wishlist/sd/8f6UM7C4Dn95PgAVN3Cpcg==

My main question is, is that too much video card for PCIE 2X board?  Should I go cheaper and which one?  Or am I fooling myself and it's also time to just build everything.

Thx!

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Reply #3138 on: March 14, 2020, 04:48:10 PM

It's fine to run that card on PCIe 2.0. Not the same card tested but it does show the differences in PCIe version is minimal.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hkO7MAir_38
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Reply #3139 on: March 15, 2020, 10:54:23 AM

It's fine to run that card on PCIe 2.0. Not the same card tested but it does show the differences in PCIe version is minimal.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hkO7MAir_38


Thanks.  Added a monitor and did it. 

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Reply #3140 on: March 29, 2020, 11:04:13 AM

I'm in a similar position, got a build from 2010/11 that I can't really justify spending much on to upgrade (I do not do enough gaming although that's partly due to having a substandard rig...) I figure best bang for the buck is a new graphics card. I'm eyeing up a GTX 1660 super and basically aiming for the cheapest version with two fans. PSU can definitely handle it and it should be fine one a PCI-E 1 motherboard. I'm hoping this will mean I can run Rome 2 in more than minimum graphics mode.

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Reply #3141 on: April 03, 2020, 09:14:35 PM

If your CPU is made in the last decade, it's enough for anything and the only reason to upgrade is because newer motherboards support better SSD solutions and don't support older CPU's.  GPU's are worth upgrading, but Moore's Law is effectively dead for CPU's.

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Reply #3142 on: April 05, 2020, 07:15:16 AM

Yeah, checking the difference it seems like the iX family of intel processors is still basically all there is. I've got 8GB of RAM that could be added to but this new GPU seems to be 3 times as fast a GPU and has 6x as much memory. Only 'downside' is that my old shitty monitor only has VGA connections so I've bought a new Dell monitor with an actual reasonable refresh rate. Might even be able to play Battlefleet Gothic without the whole thing collapsing.

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Reply #3143 on: April 13, 2020, 10:40:18 PM

What's a decently affordable monitor these days?

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Reply #3144 on: April 13, 2020, 10:50:38 PM

What resolution?
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Reply #3145 on: April 15, 2020, 01:20:33 AM

Another decently affordable 24 inch monitor at 1920x1080 would probably suit just fine.

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Reply #3146 on: April 15, 2020, 03:12:56 AM

These days, you probably have to also answer the question of "what refresh rate".  60 is what the old people do, the kiddies are all about 144hz.

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Reply #3147 on: April 15, 2020, 06:01:49 PM

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Reply #3148 on: April 16, 2020, 12:38:54 AM

the 25" model is OOS here (aus) for $419, seems like it will do the job provided I don't have to wait too long.

Re SSDs, anything wrong with buying a Samsung 970 EVO Plus?
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Reply #3149 on: April 16, 2020, 12:54:48 AM

Re SSDs, anything wrong with buying a Samsung 970 EVO Plus?

Unless they fucked something up, I'm an 8 series in an old box and a 950 on this one and it's flawless I guess?
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