Bayonetta

[Azazel]

Clearly, the issue is that it might be a good game, but it's a sucky/lazy port of a good game. As good as it might be by itself, it's not being sold in a vaccum.

It makes sense that if the game is so good, that Sony doesn't want everyone and their dog buying it on the 360 and/or using it as an example of how the PS3 is shit compared to the 360 (despite it not being their or the hardware's fault).

[Kageh]

EU release for this is January 8 for PS3, I wonder how much optimization is possible in such a small timeframe.

[Trippy]

EU release for this is January 8 for PS3, I wonder how much optimization is possible in such a small timeframe.

Depends on how long they've been working on fixing the problem. The game released at the end of October in Japan but they must have known of the issues before that and it's unknown when they contacted Sony about getting some help and when Sony agreed to so do, assuming that story is true. However the game can always be patched after release so it's not like they only have till the beginning of January to fix whatever. The non-JP versions probably have already been sent out to manufacturing so that they can get to distributors by the end of the month so I wouldn't expect the actual discs to have all of the fixes they are planning -- i.e. I expect a release day patch and maybe another patch after that as well.

[Kageh]

Good point, I hadn't thought about that. But that is assuming everyone was so sensible as to start working on the fixes as soon as they had to release for Japan and noticed the game isn't exactly "well ported". I'm kind of afraid that the sudden awareness for the bad port might be just a superficial move to appease the masses, a PR move in reaction the reviews.

Best we can do now is wait for some thorough reviews of the NA version, which hits the shelves a grand 3 days before the EU version.

[Azazel]

360 version for me due to the entire debacle. Unless Sony manage to put in something extra.

I'll see what the reviews say. I don't need to buy it on Day1.

[PalmTrees]

Played the xbox demo. Was the Devil May Cry action game I was expecting, which is a good thing. Will definitely be picking it up.

[AcidCat]

Played the demo and it saved me sixty bucks, as I thought I would like it but found out it just didn't work for me. I think it was just too frantic, and nothing had a sense of weight or impact ... I dunno, maybe the ridiculously awful music just poisoned the whole experience for me.

[Rendakor]

Unless you don't like this song: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oQ2QgcRrWlc.  You should buy this game. :)

You're giving me massive flashbacks of Evangelion. Now I pretty much NEED this game.

[apocrypha]

That's the music that plays just about every time Bayonetta is about to do something really "awesome".  I'd guess like once or twice per level? You will be hearing it lots.  I've come to like it, personally.

That's a real shame. Still, judging from the release schedule for 2010 anything that stops me buying any particular game is probably a good thing 

[ffc]

I think it was just too frantic...

With all the different stuff happening on screen I felt like I was watching slot machine wheels spin as I constantly hit the jackpot.  I like jackpots.  And I like this game.

[Shrike]

Finally got around to checking out the demo. I like it.

I'll probably pick it up at some point, though I might wait until it hits the bargain bin. These sorts of game usually do quite quickly. ME2 has my holiday gaming dollars at the moment...

[BitWarrior]

Well some reviews are coming out for the game finally - IGN gave Bayonetta a 9.5 on the 360, but only an 8.2 for the PS3; apparently the differences were just that notable.

360: http://xbox360.ign.com/objects/142/14253761.html

PS3: http://ps3.ign.com/objects/142/14253676.html

[schild]

Slowdown doesn't fall under "graphics" in an action game, it falls under "gameplay."

But hey, IGN. Whatever.

[Hoax]

So whats the verdict did Sony fix it up?  I want this game so badly after playing the demo, I never finish DMC games because Im not playing some babe who uses crazy awesome hair attacks that make her naked.  That is a great gimmick.

[Velorath]

So whats the verdict did Sony fix it up?  I want this game so badly after playing the demo, I never finish DMC games because Im not playing some babe who uses crazy awesome hair attacks that make her naked.  That is a great gimmick.

1Up and IGN so far have both said that the PS3 version still has some issues.

[Kageh]

So whats the verdict did Sony fix it up?  I want this game so badly after playing the demo, I never finish DMC games because Im not playing some babe who uses crazy awesome hair attacks that make her naked.  That is a great gimmick.

Probably "No". The patch might be in the works and made available soon, but at this point I'd bet it is the same version that launched in Japan.

[Azazel]

Option B is "better" but not yet "there".

Easy choice - 360 purchase.

[Hoax]

Option B is "better" but not yet "there".

Easy choice - 360 purchase.

I was bitter I bought a PS3, I will never ever ever buy a xbox for myself or anyone else.  Ever.

[Azazel]

/golfclap

who gives a shit? really?

[schild]

/golfclap

who gives a shit? really?

You apparently since you keep dropping trollbait for stupid, stupid shit.

[Azazel]

What's your problem?

Sega makes game on one system and it's better than the shitty 3rd party port on a second system. 1st party steps in but doesn't quite get it right and may require a magic patch. I say screw it and I'll get the non-port, non-inferior non-patch-needing version. Hoax makes a system partisan post for no reason and I call him on it.

Seriously, go back and read what I posted in this thread earlier about buying the PS3 version if it turned out to be better (just like I got Batman: AA on PS3). Hasn't happened from all appearances, so fuck it.

[Kageh]

Seeing as it is available here on the shelves already, did anyone actually play the PS3 version already and can comment on how annoying/often the slowdowns occur? I'm considering buying it, and I'm a sucker for GoW/DMC stuff. I can actually live with the graphic differences, but the slowdowns can ruin a console game for me.

[Azazel]

Give it a couple of weeks if you can, and see what the reviews say. That should also be enough time to find out if a magic patch is going to drop. See if a demo turns up on PSN as well - something like that would surely have to be patched up to the latest version, especially with the kind of buzz this title has.

[Trippy]

Give it a couple of weeks if you can, and see what the reviews say. That should also be enough time to find out if a magic patch is going to drop. See if a demo turns up on PSN as well - something like that would surely have to be patched up to the latest version, especially with the kind of buzz this title has.

The demo was up weeks ago.

[Hoax]

The demo seemed fine to me, but the idea of paying for the inferior product does rankle me a bit.

[Azazel]

Give it a couple of weeks if you can, and see what the reviews say. That should also be enough time to find out if a magic patch is going to drop. See if a demo turns up on PSN as well - something like that would surely have to be patched up to the latest version, especially with the kind of buzz this title has.

The demo was up weeks ago.

Fair enough. I'm waiting until they patch the patch that breaks controller connectivity before I patch my PS3. It appears to want me to patch before it'll let me connect to the store and so forth.

[Trippy]

Is it really that hard to turn on your PS3 using the button on the system itself?

[Azazel]

Doesn't the patch also disconnect controllers from being used unless connected by USB? And yeah, it's a hassle to get to due to location. The disc drive is also a hassle, but slightly less so. I tend to leave the game I'm playing in there.

Regardless, my existing PS3 games and BRDs work fine, so I'm happy to wait without downloading some generic patch that breaks stuff.

[Trippy]

Doesn't the patch also disconnect controllers from being used unless connected by USB? And yeah, it's a hassle to get to due to location. The disc drive is also a hassle, but slightly less so. I tend to leave the game I'm playing in there.

Regardless, my existing PS3 games and BRDs work fine, so I'm happy to wait without downloading some generic patch that breaks stuff.

For some people with Slims 3.10 will cause problems with their controller not being sync'd if they power up the PS3 with the PS button on the controller while in wireless mode. I.e. the system will power up via the PS button but then the PS3 "loses track" of the controller and you can't do anything with it unless you hook it up via USB. The workaround is to power up the PS3 with the button on the system itself. There are also apparently various ways of resyncing the controller but none work as reliably as just using the power button on the PS3. Also not everybody with a Slim is having this problem (I don't, for example).

People not using Slims that claim that 3.10 broke their controllers are most likely just experiencing the typical controller sync problems that the PS3 has had since the very beginning.

[Trippy]

No release day patch for PS3.

A few other comments after playing just a little bit (through the Prologue).

It's nice that it runs at 1080p. However...

...you don't really notice the benefits of the higher resolution given the way the game looks...

...I hate the massively desaturated colors look and the other visual effects on top of all that (blurry textures, depth of field effects, etc.) makes the game look very low resolution.

No option to save game data to hard drive which is disappointing given you get interrupted with loads in the middle of the battle if you pick up new items (yes it pauses while it loads the item model). Other normal load points feel slow as well. Saving games takes a long time too which is bizarre.

[Hoax]

But will there ever be a patch at all?

[stray]

Is Bayonetta 1080p on an Elite as well?

What do you mean by no save option? You mean no save at anytime/anywhere? That's fairly standard with these games.

[edit] OK, maybe that's a stupid question. Umm confused on whether all Xbox's do 1080p. Whatever. Is it 1080p on the "Xbox" in general? Wonder if it suffers from the same poor visuals.

[Trippy]

But will there ever be a patch at all?

No idea.

Is Bayonetta 1080p on an Elite as well?

No idea.

What do you mean by no save option? You mean no save at anytime/anywhere? That's fairly standard with these games.

I meant saving the game's data files to the hard drive to cut down on load times.

[edit] OK, maybe that's a stupid question. Umm confused on whether all Xbox's do 1080p. Whatever. Is it 1080p on the "Xbox" in general? Wonder if it suffers from the same poor visuals.

I would assume the Xbox 360 version has the same desaturated look.

[stray]

I meant saving the game's data files to the hard drive to cut down on load times.

Gotcha


Actually, I found some comparison shots. Looks like 360 has a little more color as well..





[edit] Oops.. looks like someone already pointed it out here. Oh well, ass shot at least! ^_^

[Lakov_Sanite]

what's up with her red scarf on the ps3? I assume that's a cutscene so why not have it in the right place with the rest of her hair?