Anyone got Lego Rock Band yet?

[Cyrrex]

There was some talk of a one-time-use code that was needed for the song copy to RB2 and that this was included in new copies of the game.  Can we confirm that this is not the case and that you can in fact rent the game, pay the 10 bucks, and copy to RB2 with no codes?

CONFIRMED

Yes, there's a flyer inside the game. You use the code on the flyer at rockband.com/something and put it in along with your platform, email address and US state (despite being released in Europe and Australasia - I live in Alabama now, apparently). It then gives you another code, which you input into your XBL user profile.

Could the codes from the older RB games be used and re-used?

Maybe I'm being dense, but you just confused me...it is confirmed that you can rent and copy the songs, but there is also a flyer with a code that gives you another code.  But what does that give you?  Or are you actually confirming that you need the flyer and that you cannot simply rent and copy?

[Ingmar]

There was some talk of a one-time-use code that was needed for the song copy to RB2 and that this was included in new copies of the game.  Can we confirm that this is not the case and that you can in fact rent the game, pay the 10 bucks, and copy to RB2 with no codes?

CONFIRMED

Yes, there's a flyer inside the game. You use the code on the flyer at rockband.com/something and put it in along with your platform, email address and US state (despite being released in Europe and Australasia - I live in Alabama now, apparently). It then gives you another code, which you input into your XBL user profile.

Could the codes from the older RB games be used and re-used?

Maybe I'm being dense, but you just confused me...it is confirmed that you can rent and copy the songs, but there is also a flyer with a code that gives you another code.  But what does that give you?  Or are you actually confirming that you need the flyer and that you cannot simply rent and copy?

You're not being dense, I think Azazel just got backwards what OJ was asking was confirmed. It sounds to me like you need the flyer, and it is a one time code.

Either that or I'm dense too!

[Azazel]

oops! Yes confirmed that there IS a one-time code off the flyer. Sorry, I misread that bit of the post.

On that note, can the codes off the other RB discs be used multiple times?

[OcellotJenkins]

I don't own it, but I've read that the AC/DC pack works that same way.  Each box allows for one song copy per account.

The only case I'm aware of where you can rent and copy is with the original Rock Band 1.  There is no code needed to get those songs into Rock Band 2.

[Mosesandstick]

 

Thanks for that clarification. I just hope other people don't rent L:RB expecting to get the songs then. What a shitty move though, I hope they release some of the songs eventually though. (I'd really kill to play some Incubus)

[Azazel]

Not really a shitty move - just closing a loophole if you think about it properly for a minute.

[Cyrrex]

Yeah, it really only makes sense that you'd be able to import the older songs into the newer games.  And I can confirm that the RB1 songs that I copied to play in RB2 also work in Lego Rock Band.  At least some of them do...not sure why some of them don't.

Ultimately, I think I may buy this game anyway (I'm renting now).  It's family friendly enough that I even have my 4 year old playing. 

[Mosesandstick]

It would make sense if RB1 --> RB2 --> Lego Rock Band was a logical progression. It isn't. Outside of the songs, it offers nothing to me, and I imagine that I'm not the only person feeling the same way.

LRB's family friendliness means they don't allow all of the old songs to be played.

[Azazel]

The way I see it, it's not exactly a revelation that LRB is more of the same.

It's a pack of more songs that you can import into the core game, which is RB2. As an aside, it has it's own little Lego-interface and campaign, and happens to let you use a good chunk of DLC, but it's not a linear progression, nor would you expect it to be. It's simply a reskin. A side-game. One of many in the genre.

RB3 (when/if it comes) will no doubt come with the multiple-instrument interface that GH5 comes with, and possibly 3-part vocal harmonies taken from Beatles:RB. I imagine that Harmonix is trying to figure out how to achieve this while maintaining compatability with the huge amount of DLC they have. We're not exactly discussing a genre that has a lot of available progression at this stage.

[Cyrrex]

I'm fine with this as a re-skin....it still beats the GH series for songs and interface, IMO.  And it has a certain charm.

Multiple instruments will be good.  That's the one thing I really like about the new GH games (and not much else).

[Mosesandstick]

The thing is, I know I wouldn't use Lego Rock Band because you can't use all of your songs, so it would purely be a song pack for me, in which case it's really expensive! I think customers deserve the choice over what product they want. I don't want to pay for features that are unnecessary to me.

[Azazel]

 

It's a complete standalone game.

A complete standalone game that also lets you import all of it's own content into RB2, and also allows you to import most of your other DLC into it. You do have the choice, and to echo the lads from the other thread, you're under no obligation to purchase it.

The stuff about choice... I don't honestly understand what you're saying, unless you're arguing about the fact that LRB doesn't let you import your non-family-friendly DLC and RB2 songs into it?

[Mosesandstick]

I can't remember where, but I'm pretty sure the guys from Harmonix have been on record as stating they wanted to develop a whole system, where you could always port things over, your DLC would always be compatible etc.

If I want to play the songs on the Lego Rock Band setlist, I have to buy the game. I can't get them any other way. Whether or not I need or want the rest of the game. I don't want a stand-alone game, I want the songs.

Whether or not Lego Rock Band is a stand-alone game, it's still fundamentally the same game, with more polish and different options here and there. But as far as we can tell, the songs are 'exclusive' to the game. If I want to play the songs on Rock Band (2), I want the choice to buy the songs, not spend my money on a whole game which I wouldn't play anyway.

Maybe you think I'm being a whiny bitch for wanting the songs without wanting to buy the whole game, but I think it conflicts with what HMX has been doing previously with the RB --> RB2 progression and their DLC model and what they've said they want to do with the whole RB series.

[Cyrrex]

Songs you get via DLC cost what?  Somewhere between 1-2 bucks each.  Even if you just view this as a track pack, it's a pretty solid deal.  Only, you have to use the LRB disc, and there is an actual separate game attached (though admittedly very similar to the other games).  What they did with Beatles RB was FAR more restrictive than this.  I can understand them not wanting certain songs attached to what is ultimately a family oriented game.

And who knows, one day you may be able to get all the songs via DLC.  In any event, it wouldn't make sense for them to offer them from day one, because then they'd struggle to sell the game at all.

In short, I don't think you're thinking clearly about this.

[Mosesandstick]

The Beatles RB is a completely different case, the Beatles IP is stupidly controlled and was always going to be a special situation.

I'd hope that one day you will be able to get the songs as DLC, either so that I can pick and choose what songs I want, or so that it's cheaper. I don't see how I'm the only person with this opinion, from the IGN review, "It's a kind of pricey track pack of a bizarre setlist for a really fun rhythm game." From Gamer's Temple (whomever the fck they are) "I'm sure that some people will be disappointed to find that this Rock Band release features a relatively small track list, is missing some of the features found in other Rock Band games, and doesn't support the full catalog of downloadable tracks available for Rock Band.".

Yeah, you pay around a buck fifty (on average) for DLC. This might purely be your spending habits verus mine, but think about the cost of Lego Rock Band against Rock Band 2. If you include the cost of transferring songs (9.99) then both games cost around the same when they came out (as far as I remember). RB2 had 84 songs with 20 random freebies. That's nearly twice as many as Lego Rock Band.

[Azazel]

Maybe you think I'm being a whiny bitch for wanting the songs without wanting to buy the whole game, but I think it conflicts with what HMX has been doing previously with the RB --> RB2 progression and their DLC model and what they've said they want to do with the whole RB series.

Well, except for the fact that you can only get the RB1 songs by buying the game, and the RB2 songs by buying that game, and the RB AC/DC songs by buying that disc. Codes that you could re-use were clearly a loophole, and not working as intended.

And if you buy, say, the Foo Fighters' - The Colour and the Shape via DLC it comes with every song aside from Everlong, which you can only get via RB2. So if you only have RB1 or LRB (Like Australia or New Zealand, where RB2 isn't yet released) you can't get Everlong at all.
I think you're either misremembering the quote, or, like Lord Vader in Bespin, they have altered the deal. Prey that they don't alter it further.


You're on the internet - whatever you think on any topic under the sun, you won't be alone in thinking whatever it is...

But whatever. I got it at a good price, far from RRP. I'm happy. This discussion is pretty much going in circles now anyway...

[Mosesandstick]

I know what you mean. I think RB is maybe a wee bit too succesful, some big-wig doesn't care about marginalizing customers. I grew up in Singapore, so I know how tough it is for console games. 'specially so for Aus and NZ (why are they even in the same region?!?!) . Luckily there's always the region free PS3?

[Azazel]

AU and NZ are part of Europe, dont'cha know? It's partly because we use the PAL TV system, and partly because it's easier to just lump us in with Europe. Except for MMOs like WoW, LotRO, where we're part of the USA instead.

Anyway, I got my RB2 by importing it from the UK, where it was released. Around this time last year, actually, since I gave it to my wife for Christmas. At this point I get most of my games from the UK and HK, with only a few titles locally (on big sale). Quite a lot of 360 stuff is actually region-free.

[Mosesandstick]

Wow, I forgot it was all PAL. This is more of a clusterfuck than I thought. I knew that Australasia all had the same system (PAL as you mention), but games that you buy in Singapore (and the rest of SEA by extension) are NTSC-J. I have a NTSC 360 despite living in the UK. Electronics are too damn expensive here.