ChromeOS

[schild]

At first I was all, why would they make this if they had Android?
Then I was all, why doesn't Microsoft just do CE RIGHT this time since they finally managed to get Windows right with 7?
Then I was like, "why won't Linux just go away?"

But I suppose that last one is off-point.

ChromeOS is completely unnecessary for 90% of the computers in the world today. Probably more like 98%, but I'm making up statistics here to back up a point that probably doesn't need to be made.

This shit:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0QRO3gKj3qw
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hJ57xzo287U

Should be the only thing on netbooks from the day it releases until the internet radically changes.

It looks exactly like what netbooks need to become truly viable. If I ever see it on any other computer though, gonna have to punch a baby.

[Hoax]

Really wish I hadn't sold my tiny amount of shares in google to buy a car that was promptly hit by a truck, they are going to be killing it when this catches on which judging from Android will take awhile.

[K9]

That first narraotr guy is too smug; he needs a punch to the face.

I agree with Schild, this looks great for netbooks, but places way too much faith in Google for anything else.

[Big Gulp]

Everything done in the cloud?  Why doesn't Google just come right out and say "We want all of your data"?

[Tarami]

The feeling I got from watching both videos was kinda "Hey, we made you a bootable web browser... then we realized that's not all you actually want to do, so we're going to fudge everything else! Aren't we great?!"

[Murgos]

Thin client ++;

[KallDrexx]

this looks great for netbooks, but places way too much faith in Google for anything else.

I'm pretty sure it's only meant for netbooks, not for full laptops/desktops.

[01101010]

Wow... behold the matrix, one step at a time. 

[schild]

Everything done in the cloud?  Why doesn't Google just come right out and say "We want all of your data"?

Because the video wasn't shipped with tinfoil hats.

[Murgos]

Wow... behold the matrix, one step at a time. 

Not really.  This is not for the people on this board, at least not your main computing purposes.  This looks to me like it's aimed at stuff like your DVR (to finally realize that 'set top box' concept) or very light netbooks or low to bottom end mobile phones.  Sure, it may be all grandma needs on a daily basis but most of 'us' do more with computers than just interact with web-apps.

[Yoru]

Oh hey I heard this before. I think it was in like 1997 or something. Oracle NCs. Sun JavaStations. And then there was WebTV too.

And before that they called it timesharing.

[Quinton]

I'm still a little skeptical about why many people would want netbook+chromeos instead of netbook+win7+chrome, which can browse the web *and* run WoW or whatever.  But I did work for a company in the late 90s that became an "internet appliance" company (RIP, Be Inc), so I may still be scarred and jaded from that experience.

[Trippy]

Oh hey I heard this before. I think it was in like 1997 or something. Oracle NCs. Sun JavaStations. And then there was WebTV too.

And before that they called it timesharing.

Sun had its diskless workstations more than a decade before that (1982 - 83). It was great cause when the network went down you couldn't do anything (just like now if your Internet connection goes down and all your data stored remotely) so we would all go and watch a movie.

[Yegolev]

[Trippy]

[Quinton]

Home directories on NFS make me cry.

[Trippy]

Indeed.

[Kitsune]

Moblin stuck me as more impressive an implementation of the light OS concept.

[Tarami]

That was my point aswell, Quinton. Even if "the web" is 90% of the time spent, you don't want to lose the ability to do the things you do in the remaining 10%. Either it's games or it's some professional application that you need for work. Very few professionals, I wager, can do with just a gimped Office package (i.e. Google Docs.) Also, the times when a netbook is nice to have are often when there is no available Internet; on the train commuting, on the plane or the hotel room. It's kind of the strength of netbooks; they are so small and light that you can bring one with you, regardless of where you go. Therefore they also need to work practically anywhere, not just from locations with WiFi.

I suppose you could have a dual-boot with Windows or OSX or whatever is your fancy, but then it feels like you're missing the point.

Also, if you're a frequent laptop/netbook user, chances are you never completely shut off the computer anyway, you just put it in hibernate. From hibernation it is literally like 10 seconds until you're up and running again. I can't remember the last time I fully booted a portable PC, to be honest.

[Yegolev]

Home directories on NFS make me cry.

/hi5

Related to Trippy's post: My new HP boss was just today complaining about how shitty Sun is and how he was very happy that we were an AIX shop.  Besides the two Solaris shitboxes we have, which I avoid, last time I touched Sun was using an IPC to read email (pine) and surf porn in 1994.

Speaking of porn, who wants to have to stream that every time?  Having the .avi in the cloud means I can't skip ahead to 2:45 until it downloads.

[Trippy]

But but The Network is the Computer.

[Quinton]

Also, if you're a frequent laptop/netbook user, chances are you never completely shut off the computer anyway, you just put it in hibernate. From hibernation it is literally like 10 seconds until you're up and running again. I can't remember the last time I fully booted a portable PC, to be honest.

Yeah, I'm completely baffled by the chromeos team's obsession with boot speed.  Especially with "always on" mobile devices (which netbooks should fall into), you really should only ever do a full reboot if the battery is dead or you have a major system update.  It feels like a lot of optimization for something that is better fixed in other ways.

also

The Computer is the Computer.
The Network is the Network.
We're sorry about any confusion.

[Morfiend]

From the other ChromeOS thread.

I have been saying to my friends that I think the OS is going to basically become a browser, and everything is going to be done in a cloud. This seems like the first step towards that.

I personally embrace the idea of moving to the cloud for stuff like netbooks. I look forward to the day when all our data is in the cloud and everything is done over the net. Although I think we have a way to go on internet speeds before that came become the norm for Desktops.

[Brogarn]

Thin client ++;

This.

Also, ya... baby punching if this is on anything other than a very basic netbook. Because "Thin client". Anything else is a waste.

[Yegolev]

Yeah, I'm completely baffled by the chromeos team's obsession with boot speed.

Am I the only person that leaves his computers on all the time?  If booting takes too long... don't do it.

[Prospero]

The security model for the devices sounds very appealing. I think even my father in-law would be hard pressed to infect one of these things.

[Ingmar]

Yeah, I'm completely baffled by the chromeos team's obsession with boot speed.

I'm guessing some product marketing guy laid down the law on that because it is one of the most common complaints people have about MS OSes.

[Murgos]

Yeah, I'm completely baffled by the chromeos team's obsession with boot speed.

Am I the only person that leaves his computers on all the time?  If booting takes too long... don't do it.

No, my personal computer is always on.  It sleeps into a power saving mode but that really takes <3 seconds to come up.  From the time I hit the space bar to when I sit down it's usually ready to go.

[Prospero]

Most normal people turn off their computers each day, or even after each session. When I visit my folks it can take 5+ minutes to get to a damn browser.

[Yegolev]

See, I turn all the power management to "always on" for nearly everything.  I don't even let my monitor go to sleep.  It's like those ovens in the other thread.  Furthermore, if you don't turn off your computer, chances are very good you won't find yourself wondering why your computer won't boot anymore.

[Soln]

I'm skeptical

[Yegolev]

Of periods?

[Soln]

yes, especially with Google


they'll monetize yr periods, just you wait

[HaemishM]

This shit:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0QRO3gKj3qw

By 1 minute in, I want to skullfuck this narrator to death.

[Soln]

so very very smug, so Google