Battlefield: Bad Company 2

[WayAbvPar]

The biggest problem with snipers is the team sizes- 16 people is too damned small. It was never an issue in BF2- you had 5 or 6 guys sniping, but had another 26 or 27 guys doing other shit. The Rush mode also highlights it, since it places one team completely on the offensive with non-kill related objectives.

BF3 can't get here fast enough.

[Engels]

I think there's my dissonance with WAP: I don't play RUSH anymore, because it was giving me ulcers. It wasn't only the snipers not getting with it, but in general the farting about. I do Conquest only, where it seems that the goals are more readily achievable with a mix of tactics.

[WayAbvPar]

I was thinking about that a few minutes ago- I play Rush almost exclusively, so my perspective is skewed. The way the Conquest maps are set up just made it much less fun (especially the map that you can get camped into your spawn area with only one exit. Fucking clownshoes). The fact that all the snipers could go play Conquest instead of bogging down a team in Rush just occurred to me and makes me want to kick them in the junk even more.

Ideally a server will mix in a Conquest round every 3 maps or so to break up the monotony. I really wanna try the other two modes, but I am leery about getting stuck with the average retard in my squad and be facing clanned guys. Maybe we should set aside a time for a few of us to get together and experiment with the squad modes.

[Toast]

That sounds cool to me. It would be good to get the badges for the points for some of the other modes. I'll add some of you guys to my friends list.

My soldier name is Hurtt ...

[d4rkj3di]

I feel bad, cause at the moment, I am one of those sniper dudes...I do try not to do it on offense on conquest maps though. :)

I just wanna unlock the recon kits to the m95, then I can switch again...I enjoy assault more for sure I think.

Easiest way to get unlocks for any Kit - Pick up a Medic Kit from a dead guy, and run around and spam heal packs and defib teammates. All the points you get from those actions go towards the original Kit you spawned as. I unlocked the SV98 without firing a shot from a Sniper Rifle. It's also useful when starting out and you don't have access to Ammo/Med Packs, or Repair Tool.

[Engels]

I'm ok with it, but you have to promise not to laugh. Once I'm in the 'zone', I'm fair to good, but if I'm still not quite there, I'm terrible. Example: I run upstairs to find a sniper. He's got his back turned to me. I start shooting like a spaz, with my aim so off he barely notices. My clip goes dry. He turns around, walks over, drops a C4, backs away and detonates me.

[WayAbvPar]

My favorite trick is to empty my clip, not kill my opponent, and then fumble out my sidearm...only to realize that it is a tracer pistol. Welp.

[Strazos]

My new favorite trick is to be sneaky against vehicles with C4. I don't even equip the mortar anymore.

Full Badmchaka + 1 guy repairing + C4 = Delicious Ownage.

Also, if you're not good at twitch, try Medic - lots of ammo to miss with, and you can rez and heal people, which doesn't happen enough.

[stu]

A good medic is a savior on Conquest maps like White Pass and Arica Harbor where you can run from building to building. If you like topping the leader board by 1k+ points per round, this is the way to go.  Plus, it's demoralizing for the enemy when all their effort is being negated by your rezs. It's almost unfair.

My favorite trick is to empty my clip, not kill my opponent, and then fumble out my sidearm...only to realize that it is a tracer pistol. Welp.

Yes! When tinkering with my set-ups and classes between deaths, this has sometimes resulted with inadvertent suicide.

[Nightblade]

My new favorite trick is to be sneaky against vehicles with C4. I don't even equip the mortar anymore.

Full Badmchaka + 1 guy repairing + C4 = Delicious Ownage.

Also, if you're not good at twitch, try Medic - lots of ammo to miss with, and you can rez and heal people, which doesn't happen enough.

Twitch has little to do with it.

Hit reg in this game is god awful; whether the target is moving or not and shotguns have it the worst. Earlier today in Atamaca desert, I hit a guy running STRAIGHT at me dead on with a magnum ammo buckshot shot, after that I swapped to my M19 and shot him three times dead on; I died after a short time for SMG spray. He came out with "0% health".

[Strazos]

Were you playing on a HC server?

I don't normally have hit detection problems, especially when I snipe with slugs.

[Engels]

I had a weird one happen to me yesterday. I ran up on a hidden sniper and I swear to god I emptied a clip into him before he shot me with a shotgun. Now, I know there were no medics around to heal him, yet on my 'killed by' screen, he showed 100% health, even though I visibly saw him stagger from bullet shots. Hack, or some odd detection issue?

[Trouble]

Technically speaking, in this game the Carl Gustav IS anti-personnel. It has a very large splash radius compared to the other two and does the least amount of damage. It does 50% less damage against vehicles than the third one and has like 2.5x the splash radius.

[jakonovski]

Rocket launchers are a weird arcade throwback in most tactical shooters. Antitank should be handled on a penetration basis (so .50cal would be of use too), and carrying that shit should slow the player down. Of course we're going to snipe people with our feather light rpgs that can be fired while jumping.

[Surlyboi]

I'm ok with it, but you have to promise not to laugh. Once I'm in the 'zone', I'm fair to good, but if I'm still not quite there, I'm terrible. Example: I run upstairs to find a sniper. He's got his back turned to me. I start shooting like a spaz, with my aim so off he barely notices. My clip goes dry. He turns around, walks over, drops a C4, backs away and detonates me.

That's why if I've got the drop on somebody, I go straight for the knife.

Funny one today, I was out of ammo for my sniper rifle and down to my last mag on my sidearm, I run into an enemy engineer and he blows his last mag trying to take me out, we then dance around each other for a minute before stabbing each other in the face.

[Toast]

So, there was an egregious aim-botter crapping all over an otherwise good server last night. This guy was walking around hip-firing an M60 and headshotting people all over the map. I got dropped several times behind fences just after spawning.

In two matches he averaged about 60 kills and 2 deaths.

Soldier name is:  Havoker   and the dufus seems to have a pretty big presence online based on some quick googling. He seems to also go by SilentScope.

http://bfbc2.statsverse.com/stats/pc/havoker

I've submitted him to EA for review, but I'm wondering if there's any way to bother this guy (Maybe naming and shaming him on forums he seems to frequent?).

[NiX]

If you're going to stoop low, get real low. 4chan him.

[WayAbvPar]

Had a minor c4 moment last night. Playing White Pass (? the one with all the snow that isn't the Harbor one) and defending. Just before the B MCOM building there is a depression with a wrecked aircraft in it. I remember stopping there and hiding often while I am attacking, so I liberally coat the area in C4. A couple of minutes later a big firefight breaks out in that general area. I touch off the C4 and get spammed with points- triple kill + all the defense bonuses. 

[jakonovski]

I never manage anything spectacular, the best I've done is shoot a ballistic RPG-7 round halfway across the map to take out a Bradley.

[Toast]

Nice C4 moment. The best ones are the result of evil strategy.

I haven't done much C4'ing. My top kill was probably manually guiding a TOW missile into a Blackhawk, earning a double kill. It was made all the sweeter when I saw the "Kick" message boot me from the server. Sweet, sweet admin tears.

I always enjoy shooting down helicopters with the main tank cannon on Atacama, although it's very difficult to executive.

Finally, my funniest kill was probably destroying a tank and getting a kill with the repair tool. I was in a tank v tank duel, and he was getting the best of me. My tank started burning, so i jumped out and grinded him down with the repair tool. Kaboom!

[Engels]

I got a good one last night on a non-HC standard server. I'm hiding behind a shipping crate and I see someone 20 yards away, so I start fragging him with my M416. An enemy medic creeps around the corner of the crate right into my sights, face first. I got double kill headshots. Twas pretty awsome, and entirely unintentional.

[WayAbvPar]

That reminds me of another thing they need to fix- full squads full of medics daisy-chaining revives. I got the drop on two guys last night- killed one, started in on the other, but he revived the first as I killed him. While I was working on the original guy again, a third guy spawned on them and revived one of them. Eventually one of them killed me, and I said quite a mouthful of naughty words.

[rrazcueta]

That reminds me of another thing they need to fix- full squads full of medics daisy-chaining revives. I got the drop on two guys last night- killed one, started in on the other, but he revived the first as I killed him. While I was working on the original guy again, a third guy spawned on them and revived one of them. Eventually one of them killed me, and I said quite a mouthful of naughty words.

Why do they have to fix this?

[WayAbvPar]

Because it is game-breakingly retarded?

[Engels]

At the very least, a paddled revive should come back up with half health.

[jakonovski]

It has to be full health, because the paddler gets points regardless the situation. Being paddled in the middle of a killzone is bad enough as it is.

[LK]

When you are involved in an encounter, and you have a troop that can instantly revive troops who are able to counterattack with immediate response times, and also, by their very presence, are able to spawn troops who have knowledge of the combat situation in the area before spawning (omnipotent) that you don't share, it can create some frustration, yes. I think this is a good reason I avoid this game: the propensity of troops to spawn magically near you is much higher than in, say, Modern Warfare 2. Dynamic spawn zones are a difficult concept to grasp and master in any game for your average player; this one is more static but predictable in an "FUCK THAT" kinda way.

[Pringles]

At the very least, a paddled revive should come back up with half health.

Full health is OK, but they also get like 2 second immunity.

[Azazel]

Because it is game-breakingly retarded?

You really do seem to get overly bent right out of shape whenever anything or anyone in the game does anything you don't like. Shit happens. Use a grenade. Take the death. Suck it up. In the end, it doesn't matter.

For the most part, when you're revived, you're also facing a somewhat random direction and you're also disoriented for a moment since you don't know exactly where shit now is. If they didn't have a second of immunity, the chances of rez-survival would be cut down to fuckall. Often enough you get cut down again very quickly if you've gotten rezzed into the middle of a firefight anyway.

[Azazel]

double post

[Strazos]

You shouldn't be able to rez and survive in an actual killzone though; the immunity is a bit BS and unnecessary.

Still love sneaking around with C4. I think now I am going to try to collapse buildings with it...without know which buildings that is possible with.

[WayAbvPar]

You really do seem to get overly bent right out of shape whenever anything or anyone in the game does anything you don't like. Shit happens. Use a grenade. Take the death. Suck it up. In the end, it doesn't matter.

Perhaps you aren't familiar with what this site is about?

You are right though- we should just be glad that developers allow us to give them money for buggy unfinished games and keep our mouths shut.

[Azazel]

You're right. It's about QQ sessions because there are too many snipers on your team hanging back and sniping so we talk about how we use our l33t admin powerz to explode them.    Or about how the three guys working together as a team against the one of you wouldn't let you kill all of them and just stay dead, dammit!  
That's usefully cynical commentary. 

Both of those points are clearly directly related to buggy unfinished games and us keeping our mouths shut. 

Seriously mate, the game does have some issues, but the last 20 pages of your tales of mod power prowess towards people who weren't playing the way you want them to play just make you come off like you have an exceptional amount of sand in a tender spot. (I'm sure many of them ar useless and/or dickheads, but hey - too many recon? FFS get over it.)

Strazos - that's how it does work most times. Rez in a killzone, and die again in seconds. The cryzone story above is because guys in a squad were rezzing one another and anoher guy spawning on their squadmates versus one WAP ambusher. Really, shit happens. He didn't kill everyone and they didn't all stay dead because they were working as a team against one gunman who had the drop on them initially. Annoying, sure, but it's just the way the game plays, not a bug or a conspiracy against WAP. Who the fuck cares? Man the fuck up, build a fucking bridge and get the fuck over it.

[Strazos]

cool story bro 

But seriously, the above shouldn't happen, and wouldn't if not for the momentary immunity; certainly enough time to turn and rez.

My new pet peev is searching for servers with HC ON, the server advertising itself as such....and then I get in and it's a normal mode game.

[Engels]

I thought there was a new search filter for HC? Are you saying that those servers flagged by the search engine aren't actually all HC? They somehow tell the index server that they're HC when they aren't?