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Engels
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FYI, for those of you with 5000 ATI cards, the new beta drivers 10.4 seriously speed up load times.
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I should get back to nature, too. You know, like going to a shop for groceries instead of the computer. Maybe a condo in the woods that doesn't even have a health club or restaurant attached. Buy a car with only two cup holders or something. -Signe
I LIKE being bounced around by Tonkors. - Lantyssa
Babies shooting themselves in the head is the state bird of West Virginia. - schild
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Jimbo
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The new patch is pretty nice, been working Recon & Assault so not sure how bad the M60 is now, but I have seen less of them. The 45, Tommy gun, M1 Garanada, & M14 seem the same, but the weak pistols seem a little bit better.
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jakonovski
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FYI, for those of you with 5000 ATI cards, the new beta drivers 10.4 seriously speed up load times.
I installed the drivers and it appears I'm 110 ATI cards short of a speed up. 
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Jimbo
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Wow, I'm such a catsass! I finished all 5 unlock progressions, the first for me (Borderlands, CoD, BF2, WoW, CoX,Diablo II...sheesh...I think the last I finished was KOTOR I & II), I can play what I want now and work on badges if I feel like it...that or crash the helicopter a lot.
I hope BF 3 goes back to 32 vs 32 with the commander and squads and tons of classes!
The Ump is a great weapon, I might replace the Tommy Gun with it more when I play engineer. The M60 isn't a wonder gun anymore, have noticed more people using all them, I still wish more people would freaking use the defib and revive fallen comrades.
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Engels
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I don't get why folks don't 'q' enemies more. Its 99% of the freaking strategy in this game.
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I should get back to nature, too. You know, like going to a shop for groceries instead of the computer. Maybe a condo in the woods that doesn't even have a health club or restaurant attached. Buy a car with only two cup holders or something. -Signe
I LIKE being bounced around by Tonkors. - Lantyssa
Babies shooting themselves in the head is the state bird of West Virginia. - schild
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Strazos
Greetings from the Slave Coast
Posts: 15542
The World's Worst Game: Curry or Covid
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Q doesn't help much on hardcore. I think I only have a single gun left on engineer, which I don't play much. I finished Recon a few days ago; I never snipe, so those points are all from shotguns and objectives and C4 on tanks. 
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Fear the Backstab! "Plato said the virtuous man is at all times ready for a grammar snake attack." - we are lesion "Hell is other people." -Sartre
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Engels
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I get higher scores on Hardcore, I've found. In fact, its sorta a misnomer in my situation. I can get a few shots in every time, and that's all you need in HC. In 'regular', I have to empty a whole clip half the time, and by then the bugger's skipping about like an electrocuted bunny, and I miss, giving him time to shoot me. Since I'm pretty lame on the whole skipping about business, I die more often in 'regular' than HC.
Ironically, I prefer 'regular' because of the whole 'know where the enemy is' thing. I don't play with a regular group on vent, so I need to rely on the meager communication that 'q' affords.
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I should get back to nature, too. You know, like going to a shop for groceries instead of the computer. Maybe a condo in the woods that doesn't even have a health club or restaurant attached. Buy a car with only two cup holders or something. -Signe
I LIKE being bounced around by Tonkors. - Lantyssa
Babies shooting themselves in the head is the state bird of West Virginia. - schild
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Strazos
Greetings from the Slave Coast
Posts: 15542
The World's Worst Game: Curry or Covid
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Yeah, normal just takes Too Many Shots. At this point I don't even need the cues; just sneak about and look for movement.
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Fear the Backstab! "Plato said the virtuous man is at all times ready for a grammar snake attack." - we are lesion "Hell is other people." -Sartre
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jakonovski
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Good lord the weapon balancing is epic fail in this game. The starting weapons are so utterly, horribly useless that I almost broke my keyboard in frustration. Now that I have the M249 SAW my kill ratio doubled, and I still don't have magnum ammo and what have you. What's next, level 80 characters cannot be hurt by lowbie bullets? Grind Russian bunkers for that elusive rare drop gold plated high dps AK-47?
edit: also what the hell, the patch broke gear selection, now it won't save even between class changes during a single match. Many a time I have accidentally gone out with the poopy AKM and without perks.
edit: I seem to hate this game, why do I keep playing?
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« Last Edit: April 25, 2010, 03:27:37 PM by jakonovski »
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Strazos
Greetings from the Slave Coast
Posts: 15542
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Not sure...I should go back in with the starter weapons, just to prove a point.
EDIT: I'll admit though, the starting assault rifle, with no scope, would be rough.
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Fear the Backstab! "Plato said the virtuous man is at all times ready for a grammar snake attack." - we are lesion "Hell is other people." -Sartre
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WayAbvPar
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Finally finished getting bronze stars in all the weapons, save the Garand (stats not tracking) and the 40mm Shotgun (that is going to take fucking forever). Now I have to decide on a few fav loadouts and try to drag my K/D ratio out of the gutter. They are hard to use, but I got used to the pump action shotguns with slugs, and now I think I like them! Even got a Marksman bonus for a shot a few rounds ago, which means I hit him from over 100 yards away. With no scope. With a shotgun  Add my to your friends list if you haven't already and come play with me- this game is far less frustrating and far more rewarding with competent squadmates. Nothing annoys me more than trying to spawn on a squadmate only to realize that every single one of them is sniping on an attack map. 
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Engels
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I've found myself squad-hopping for this reason. Not too late on in the game, since that seems unfair, but if my default squad is 2 people and there's another squad with 3, I will ditch the solo and join the 3 group, just for better spawn opportunities.
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I should get back to nature, too. You know, like going to a shop for groceries instead of the computer. Maybe a condo in the woods that doesn't even have a health club or restaurant attached. Buy a car with only two cup holders or something. -Signe
I LIKE being bounced around by Tonkors. - Lantyssa
Babies shooting themselves in the head is the state bird of West Virginia. - schild
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I feel bad, cause at the moment, I am one of those sniper dudes...I do try not to do it on offense on conquest maps though. :)
I just wanna unlock the recon kits to the m95, then I can switch again...I enjoy assault more for sure I think.
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Engels
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m95 is overrated. The first sniper rifle, the a24 I think it is, is just as effective with magnum rounds and isn't half as clunky. My personal favorite is the german one, the GAL I think its called.
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I should get back to nature, too. You know, like going to a shop for groceries instead of the computer. Maybe a condo in the woods that doesn't even have a health club or restaurant attached. Buy a car with only two cup holders or something. -Signe
I LIKE being bounced around by Tonkors. - Lantyssa
Babies shooting themselves in the head is the state bird of West Virginia. - schild
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Lounge
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The Ump is a great weapon, I might replace the Tommy Gun with it more when I play engineer.
This gun with magnum rounds and the 4x scope is pretty sick. Its easily my favorite weapon in the entire game.
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jakonovski
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I'm pretty much useless with everything so far bar the M249. I guess it just works with rapidly tapping off short bursts. Plus the iron sight is not horrible. Other than that I tend to spam RPGs and fix tanks, with a shottie for self defence (even a retard like me can hit and kill with the SAIGA).
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Strazos
Greetings from the Slave Coast
Posts: 15542
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Popping people from the other side of a map with Neo2000 slugs is...nice.  It's slightly more difficult post-patch, but still fun. And way, the 40mm shotty is not bad at all...you just have to play sneaky. HC will help, too.
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Fear the Backstab! "Plato said the virtuous man is at all times ready for a grammar snake attack." - we are lesion "Hell is other people." -Sartre
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Jimbo
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If you don't have veteran status, go sign up for Battlefield Heroes, make a character and play some bit, that counts as one of the games for veteran status. Errr...just went to Battlefield Veterans and ...  I was gonna say you could get Veteran Status and get the M1 Garanda which is pretty sweet to use, but damn if that site isn't a bear to use. In game I have a 1 by my name which gives me the unlock, but on the website it has me as a 3...(with playstation games...i've never had a playstation).
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WayAbvPar
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I feel bad, cause at the moment, I am one of those sniper dudes...I do try not to do it on offense on conquest maps though. :)
I just wanna unlock the recon kits to the m95, then I can switch again...I enjoy assault more for sure I think.
If you just want points, take the Tommy gun or a shotgun with slugs and play attack recon. If you have motion sensors unlocked, run into battle and throw those into the fray. You will score points 10x faster than sitting back and picking off 1 guy every 5 minutes. If you are trying to bronze star weapons, you can either just snipe on defense, or throw a red dot scope on instead of a 6x and use the sniper rifles as a close weapon (they end up playing a lot like shotguns). Either way, the slowest way to do either is to sit on your ass and snipe on offense. Also the easiest way to get me jumping up and down in front of you, dropping smoke, or (if FF is on) killing your useless ass. Fuck your K/D. Some of us are trying to win the fucking game.
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When speaking of the MMOG industry, the glass may be half full, but it's full of urine. HaemishM
Always wear clean underwear because you never know when a Tory Government is going to fuck you.- Ironwood
Libertarians make fun of everyone because they can't see beyond the event horizons of their own assholes Surlyboi
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Engels
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The last patch also seems to have upped the damage on the russian supasnipa one, that shoots like a pistol. I have 1 shotted peeps with it in 'regular' mode, so its a good choice for a run-and-gun weapon.
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I should get back to nature, too. You know, like going to a shop for groceries instead of the computer. Maybe a condo in the woods that doesn't even have a health club or restaurant attached. Buy a car with only two cup holders or something. -Signe
I LIKE being bounced around by Tonkors. - Lantyssa
Babies shooting themselves in the head is the state bird of West Virginia. - schild
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stu
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For snipers, The VSS Snaiperskaya Special can be a real monster. I use it with the 4x scope and magnum ammo which makes for a good combo between attack and range. So long as I'm getting my ammo replenished in some way, I find that I can run at will with it at will on dense foliage maps.
For whatever reason I'm unable to get a proper feel for the three-tiered scope that comes with some sniper rifles.
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jakonovski
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This gets ridiculouser and ridiculouser. I just unlocked XM8C and Carl Gustav, and once again my kills soared.
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Strazos
Greetings from the Slave Coast
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Fuck that CG newb shit, arrrgh.  Seriously, people using that as a primary weapon vs infantry drive me nuts.
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Fear the Backstab! "Plato said the virtuous man is at all times ready for a grammar snake attack." - we are lesion "Hell is other people." -Sartre
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Lounge
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This gets ridiculouser and ridiculouser. I just unlocked XM8C and Carl Gustav, and once again my kills soared.
If you like the 'XM8C' just wait until your next unlock when you get the 'AKS-74U KRINKOV'.
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Surlyboi
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Fuck that CG newb shit, arrrgh.  Seriously, people using that as a primary weapon vs infantry drive me nuts. I used to use the CG to soften up buildings and then the Krinkov to finish off the hiding roaches I'd just flushed out. And once again, stop with the sniper hate. Hate shitty snipers, not effective ones.
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taolurker
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And once again, stop with the sniper hate. Hate shitty snipers, not effective ones.
The problem is there are too many shitty snipers. I was on the attacking map with the two islands and a sniper on my own team was behind the boat landing trying to snipe. I am actually getting most of my kills sniping though, because it's the only starting weapon that's decently effective (and so far about 50% of my snipes have be Headshot +10 pts). My other source of kills is grenades (see question below). I am having extreme difficulty getting any kills lately, and need to find more teammates who are competent to help me get weapons decent enough to kill with. I'd say my deaths are mostly because of the CG newb shit. Also, the ammo that assault people throw.. Why doesn't that give you back grenade ammo? <<<< Pet Peeve of mine.
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NiX
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Fuck that CG newb shit, arrrgh.  Do not hate on the rocket that kills men for it kills them DEAD. Plus it's fun! I used to do that in MW, just point at their feet and voila! Dead people.
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Surlyboi
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And once again, stop with the sniper hate. Hate shitty snipers, not effective ones.
The problem is there are too many shitty snipers. I was on the attacking map with the two islands and a sniper on my own team was behind the boat landing trying to snipe. I am actually getting most of my kills sniping though, because it's the only starting weapon that's decently effective (and so far about 50% of my snipes have be Headshot +10 pts). My other source of kills is grenades (see question below). I am having extreme difficulty getting any kills lately, and need to find more teammates who are competent to help me get weapons decent enough to kill with. I'd say my deaths are mostly because of the CG newb shit. Also, the ammo that assault people throw.. Why doesn't that give you back grenade ammo? <<<< Pet Peeve of mine. It does give back grenade ammo, you just have to sit on it longer. As for hanging waaaay back on isla innocentes. I'm sometimes one of those guys. On a rush map, I can still get extreme marksman headshots and drop a metric fuckton of artillery on defenders trying to keep my guys from blowing up even the second objective on that map.
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Tuned in, immediately get to watch cringey Ubisoft talking head offering her deepest sympathies to the families impacted by the Orlando shooting while flanked by a man in a giraffe suit and some sort of "horrifically garish neon costumes through the ages" exhibit or something. We need to stop this fucking planet right now and sort some shit out. -Kail
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Kageru
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The main problem with snipers is they don't add much to the game. For the ones who hang around in the backline objectives become fairly arbitrary and their kills are generally entirely one-sided. If they could be put off in some special map where they can just snipe each other the rest of us would probably have a lot more fun.
The rocket launcher as primary close combat weapon is pure cheese. The thing badly needs a minimum stand-off distance. It also seems like they've fixed / nerfed the M60. It has pretty massive kickback now and lots of the medics seem to be using the T88 instead.
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Engels
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I'm sorry, but on some maps a sniper's spotting skills can lend a great deal of help. From a high vantage point, quickly spotting where a group of enemies is re-spawning can mobilize your forces against them before they take the conquest point, etc. Panama Canal is one such map.
Now, in HC mode, that skill isn't used, so you can argue that only a very good sniper can justify not being in the fray with an assault kit.
You also have to remember that they may be sniping for a reason; they don't do twitch combat as well as you. Do you really want them doing something where they're even MORE useless? Asking them to be simple sacrificial lambs in your own game is a bit much.
In MW or MW2 you could bitch a streak about kill-whoring snipers just racking up points for progression, but sniping in this game is pretty hard to do, and an equally skilled assault/medic/engie is going to get more kills per round than the best sniper out there.
If you encounter a game of dorks with 50 percent snipers on your team, just chalk it up to a buncha dorks, much like the servers where a clan stacks a team and spawn camps the entire round. Remember the server name, and don't go back. Already did it with the 'official' PC Gamer server and the 'official' Reddit servers.
For the record, I quit sniping a few weeks ago, after getting the m95, and now work on all the others. Only on some very specific circs do I get into sniping gear, most often to take out one particular sniper that's making me miserable.
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I should get back to nature, too. You know, like going to a shop for groceries instead of the computer. Maybe a condo in the woods that doesn't even have a health club or restaurant attached. Buy a car with only two cup holders or something. -Signe
I LIKE being bounced around by Tonkors. - Lantyssa
Babies shooting themselves in the head is the state bird of West Virginia. - schild
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Toast
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I thought I would return from years of dormancy to post that I'm playing and enjoying this game, primarily via late night catassing after the kiddo finally goes to sleep.
I'll confess that I sucked terribly in the early going, carrying a K/D in .5 to .6 range. I just didn't "get it", and the unlocks stacked against me (M60, Magnum, etc.) made it doubly hard.
I'm now working to better my K/D with a goal to get above 1.0 while still fightng for objectives, doing resupplying, spotting, etc.
I don't care for sniper, and I've spent the majority of my time playing as assault and Engineer.I'm having fun, although few games get my blood boiling like this one. RAGE.
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WayAbvPar
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Sniping does exactly dick to help win the game when your team is on offense. Mortars help a bit by breaking down cover and damaging MCOMs, but defenders get unlimited tickets, so killing a few of them doesn't do a goddamned thing. On offense it is absolutely crucial that everyone attack in a wave. If there are 16 defenders waiting for 7 attackers with 9 snipers fucking off in the hinterlands, it is fucking impossible. Sniping as a defender can and is useful, especially on maps where you can destroy all the cover between the offense spawn point and the MCOMs with mortars  'Oh my twitch skills aren't up to par, so I will hang back'. Fuck that. Why should the rest of your team have to pull your weight? At least if you go and get killed that is one less bullet being fired at someone else.
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When speaking of the MMOG industry, the glass may be half full, but it's full of urine. HaemishM
Always wear clean underwear because you never know when a Tory Government is going to fuck you.- Ironwood
Libertarians make fun of everyone because they can't see beyond the event horizons of their own assholes Surlyboi
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Toast
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Wayabvpar- I'm all for the sniper hate. The way to win Rush is to have high numbers pushing forward until the base is overrun.
That said, Destruction 2.0 building collapses actually kill a bunch of MCOMs, so mortaring the right buildings can quickly save a match.
A couple of the mcoms on Nelson Bay come to mind.
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Lounge
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My beef with snipers is that you need like 2 or 3 of them tops. Especially if you are on the attacking team. When i join a game and get put on a squad with 3 snipers I just leave because I've played enough to know how its going to work out already.
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jakonovski
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I can't hit for shit when I'm sniping. Might be a network thing too, since there's been many times I've missed a target that's sitting still and I can take my time to aim.
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