Battlefield: Bad Company 2

[jakonovski]

Gahhh, can nothing work out of the box? My BFBC2 can't find any games with play now, and if I choose from the server list it claims everything is full, even if it's not. Oh, and AA is fucked too, just a bunch of black squares along all edges.

[Strazos]

Works out of the box for me. 

Sounds like a driver problem...besides the browser, of course; it's trash.

[Engels]

Lots of folks report problems. Its to be expected, even if it works for most. I mean, so much of this game is half-baked, from the server browser to the weapon specs to whathaveyou, its no surprise that on various hardware profiles it get busted.

[jakonovski]

I finally got in, it was just some weird hiccup. The AA problem turned out to be because I had edge-detect on in CCC. I turned it to box and now the black rectangles are gone, but so is AA. So I turned it off.

Great game so far, although as far as story mode goes, the Commando Comics WW2 beginning is actually more interesting than the tired old Russian Aggressor shit in the main plot.

[Nightblade]

Gahhh, can nothing work out of the box? My BFBC2 can't find any games with play now, and if I choose from the server list it claims everything is full, even if it's not. Oh, and AA is fucked too, just a bunch of black squares along all edges.

Because despite token gestures to appease disenfranchised PC gamers, the game in the end is still a half assed port.

[Astorax]

So, I played through the single player campaign fine.

I played a bunch of multi-player relatively fine (server browser sucks balls)...

Now, just in the last week or so, all of a sudden I'm getting MASSIVE graphic issues, and the white screen of death all over.  Nothing updated, no changes to hardware.  I just can't play it anymore.

W...t...f.

[Engels]

I had a similar issue, but it turns out that I had tweaked the fan voltage which shared the rail with the video power adapter (molex adapter) and it horked my video when playing BF2. So, uhm, might want to wrack your brain to see some other small detail has changed.

[taolurker]

http://blogs.battlefield.ea.com/

Our current plan is to do final tests on the update and servers tonight and all being well we will look to release R7 client and R10 servers on Wednesday morning European time. While you wait for the release here are the details of the changelists for both the new client and server versions.


In the mean time here is the R7 client changelist.

Spoiler'd for size:

[Engels]

About time. Still, some things worry me a bit. Namely this one:

Most server filter options are remembered it doesn't remember the setting in dropdowns

Aside from the lack of punctuation, would it have been so hard to code the drop down to remember?

I'm also hoping that their weapon tweaks nerf the m60, which is really the only one that's really out of hand.

[jakonovski]

Oh god, snipers and m60 users are the scum of the earth. No one would miss those people if they just disappeared from the face of the earth.

[Jimbo]

I hope BF3 isn't as screwed up as this is, I love it when it works, but lately it has been unworkable.  Of course the Xbox 360 version works great, but it isn't the same big battles, I'm not sure why they didn't try for 16 vs 16 on the 360, since they have had 25 vs 25 work (Frontlines), how has the PS 3 gone for # of players?

[jakonovski]

I hope BF3 isn't as screwed up as this is, I love it when it works, but lately it has been unworkable.  Of course the Xbox 360 version works great, but it isn't the same big battles, I'm not sure why they didn't try for 16 vs 16 on the 360, since they have had 25 vs 25 work (Frontlines), how has the PS 3 gone for # of players?

MAG has 128 vs 128. The ideal multiplayer fps would be an unholy fusion of MAG and BFBC2.

[WayAbvPar]

Good fixes. Saving loadouts and server search settings is a good fix. I wonder if the loadout saved will be per weapon, or per class and then per weapon? Would be great to be able to switch between sniper setups and shotguns setups quickly with recon, for example.

And if the weapon fixes didn't nerf the fuck out of the M60 everyone at DICE needs to lose their jobs. And maybe their heads.

[jakonovski]

Is it just in the pc version where attacking teams spontaneously decide to all become snipers and not play the mission at all? With douchebags like that and the cheaters, a proper match seems to be a minority. Great game but the community is full of shit.

[Lounge]

Is it just in the pc version where attacking teams spontaneously decide to all become snipers and not play the mission at all? With douchebags like that and the cheaters, a proper match seems to be a minority. Great game but the community is full of shit.

No ... In fact if i join a game and get put on a squad with any more than one sniper i just leave and find a new game.  I wish this game had class count caps or some way to vote kick (perhaps the pc version has this?).

[WayAbvPar]

That is why ranked servers should be forced to have FF on. Then I could c4 all the camping fuckers and get them to move.

[Engels]

Actually, FF on doesn't solve much. Last night in a Conquest game, we had two douchbags, both in my squad, lobbing tank shells at each other and going 'lols! tk!' for the better part of the match.

[jakonovski]

Also, whose idea was it to restrict magnum ammo to level 15 and above? Cockblock ammo more like. It's so great trying to level as a noob when the game gives better guns to the experienced players. Let me count the times when I've fired over a second before the enemy, yet died myself because the early game peashooters suck donkey.

The worst part is that the fuckers that kill me only practice fragging, they have absolutely no clue about tactics. It's like one game in five that there's another player bright enough to grasp such intricate concepts as flanking.

[Surlyboi]

That can be said for most of the people playing the game. I rarely get into a match that is anything but a fragfest, regardless of the mission profile. And before you dump on snipers, I usually do more for my team on rush and conquest maps with an M95,  spotter scope and the occaisional mortar strike than a whole squad of assaulters. A good sniper can keep the enemy from disarming or arming charges or from taking and holding flags.

[Jimbo]

Especially with most engineers using the Charlie G to one shot ---one person.  Then the tank or APC roll's in and destroys a ton of stuff as the engi's have spent there ammo shooting infantry with their rockets.

[stu]

Yeah, I don't really understand why anyone would use a rocket launcher to shoot personnel rather than a rifle. The engie rifles can be pretty damn effective.

[WayAbvPar]

CG is far more effective killing infantry than it is versus armor. Takes 3 or 4 to kill most things with armor on them. My record is 3 infantry with one CG on the ground (killed 4 in a chopper once) 

On armor or chopper heavy maps I always carry a tracer pistol which makes it a little easier to kill vehicles. Although I can count the number of times I have gotten a tracer assist on someone else's kill on one hand. People have no idea what it is or how to use it to their advantage. I even tracer'ed a guy as I came around a corner chasing a chopper on Isla Inocentes once!

[Strazos]

I don't really mind the sniper rifles much - big fucking caliber, so they should one-shot, especially on HC.

M60 nades and CG better get fixed...so fucking sick of people using them as a primary weapon. Not sure I have room to complain though, so I usually finish near or at the top of the board. Even with shotty slug sniping.

Really, the only reason I play recon at all is the gillie suit when using a shotgun - When using a shotty, your loadout is identical to an Assault's.

Also, I've fallen in love with putting C4 on the back of tanks and APCs...got like 6 kills in a single shot once.

[jakonovski]

Snipers are like snow, one or two is awesome and a boon to the team, but if there's nothing but snipers, then whole communities are buried under. I would also like to point out that the only time my kd ratio is over 1 is when I'm a sniper. That makes me despise them as people only trying to get cheap frags.

[WayAbvPar]

When using a shotty, your loadout is identical to an Assault's.

Motion sensors make a huge difference, especially when setting traps with C4. Much rather recon with a shotgun than assault with one.

Is that patch out/live yet? Anyone play it yet? I am curious how differently it plays.

[taolurker]

Full details of the combat tweaks, inside spoiler:

[WayAbvPar]

Slightly Reduced the max range of the 40mm shotgun to balance it with other shotguns.

Really? It is already a one shot invitation to death...they had to make it LESS effective?

Significantly increased the speed of the Tracer Dart projectile to make it more effective against airborne targets.

Haha there goes the Blackhawk rape on Isla Inocentes. I was already getting pretty good at hitting choppers with it...now it will be trivial. Good times.



All in all some good stuff. Hope it makes the game more fun. Now make us some more maps, bitches!

[jakonovski]

Patch is has nice changes, but all the M60 idiots switched to sniping. Now in every map half the team just sits there sniping and usually is completely unable to mark the targets. Anything that helps the team is apparently verboten.

[Astorax]

Patch is has nice changes, but all the M60 idiots switched to sniping. Now in every map half the team just sits there sniping and usually is completely unable to mark the targets. Anything that helps the team is apparently verboten.

o.O

How can you NOT mark targets?  I sit there spamming the fucking Q button so in case I DON'T manage to kill the fucker, at least my teammates know they're there.   Fuck helping my teammates, if someone else gets the kill, that's 20 points just for leaning on the Q button a bit!

[Surlyboi]

Probably because most of them don't use the spotter scope.

[Astorax]

Probably because most of them don't use the spotter scope.

Huh, only one I have so far, so I wouldn't know any better I guess. :)

[Strazos]

Hmm, I wonder how much my recon with shotty slugs was nerfed in practice...

[Engels]

I'm digging this new patch. I was getting some decent kills today, using the medic and an LG88. Normally I'm happy if I'm in the top half of the score; tonight I was on fire, consistently in the top four. At one point, I had a kill streak! Used to be impossible. Meet one medic with an M60 and well, may as well drop trou and the soap at that point. I hardly saw any medics with M60s in tonights games.

[WayAbvPar]

Patch is has nice changes, but all the M60 idiots switched to sniping. Now in every map half the team just sits there sniping and usually is completely unable to mark the targets. Anything that helps the team is apparently verboten.

o.O

How can you NOT mark targets?  I sit there spamming the fucking Q button so in case I DON'T manage to kill the fucker, at least my teammates know they're there.   Fuck helping my teammates, if someone else gets the kill, that's 20 points just for leaning on the Q button a bit!

Marking targets also helps me headshot them without scopes, so it isn't just helpful to my teammates.

[Strazos]

Hmm, shotguns seem to have been nerfed a bit. Still possible to drive a rapemobile with shotty slugs, though.

Totally digging the other changes though, especially to the browser. It's now responsive, and I can filter by HC settings.