Today is patch day, boys and girls.

[naum]

I switched to leatherworking too. I went with dragonscale specialization but havent found any patterns worth a damn yet and don't plan on paying 20 gold in the auction house for one, especially with my experiences trying to sell tough scorpid armor. Tough scorpid is made for hunters. Mail with lots of agility, but do you think it will sell in the auction house? Had to put a pair of legs up for 3 days to get rid of them. And the return compared to the time it takes to farm up 15-20 scorpid scales to make them is minimal. I think the real money is in farming the patterns. People go nuts bidding up patterns to rediculous levels.

On the hunter & profession boards, it seems that there's quite a bit of disappointment with high-end leatherworking, especially for hunters... ....that is, that the quests and killing requirements for gathering materials is insane (which isn't so bad in itself) but that the stuff made once you've labored for it, is inferior to a lot of the dropped stuff at those levels... ....but  I don't have a clue, I'm a turtle leveler, still in my 20s....

[Shockeye]

On the hunter & profession boards, it seems that there's quite a bit of disappointment with high-end leatherworking, especially for hunters... ....that is, that the quests and killing requirements for gathering materials is insane (which isn't so bad in itself) but that the stuff made once you've labored for it, is inferior to a lot of the dropped stuff at those levels... ....but  I don't have a clue, I'm a turtle leveler, still in my 20s....

All professions seem to complain about high level stuff. The only useful profession I've seen at high levels seems to be Enchanting.

[MrHat]

It seem that Blizzard let fileplanet host the patch if you are still waiting...

Forum link.

[SurfD]

All professions seem to complain about high level stuff. The only useful profession I've seen at high levels seems to be Enchanting.

heh, speaking as an enchanter (though not an uber one yet) I have to say that I am not finding it usefull as a trade skill right now. Its a fucking HUGE money sink, since I usually end up disenchanting all the shit I find instead of selling it.  Not to mention that the semi random nature of most enchanting drops means I am always short of certain key reagents.

Then, theres the fact that getting people to pay for enchantments is like trying to rip their arms off.   That, and I have absolutely NO clue what a given enchantment would be worth. I mean, what do I charge to give someone a +30 armor enchantment to their cloak?  +5 strength to bracers?

[Sky]

Ahh..the spirit of christmas alive and well, people screwing each other over for profit!

[Righ]

There have been threads about enchantment prices on the WoW boards. People typically agree that the prices the markets will support is currently low. Beta players point out that towards the end of beta 2, prices were over one gold per +1 on a weapon. Enchantment is a loss leader at lower levels and early in the server economy - people don't have enough money and they are changing their equipment too often. Enchanter is only a subset of players, all of whom will ultimately want their super-vaulable rare weapons and armor enchanted at high levels. So it's money gouging glory in the mudflated endgame.

[Margalis]

Really good low and mid-level items usually can't see too well for the reasons you gave - people switch too frequently. Why would I pay a bunch extra for some extra weapon damage when in another 3 hours of play I can just get a better weapon?

One thing about FFXI was that earrings, rings and to a lesser extent armors (boots, gloves, etc) could be worn for a pretty long time. When I was level 30 or so a lot of my equipment was level 15, because of the various bonuses it gave me. For example if you get a ring of +dex, you probably won't have access to a higher tier one for 15-20 more levels.

On the other hand, if equipment becomes obsolete quickly enhancements aren't going to be worth much until you are at end-game, or at least to the point where levelling takes quite a bit of time.

[Viin]

That is also true of WoW. I still wear a lot of items I've made for myself as a leatherworker, and they are level 19 or some such (i'm level 29). I certainly go through weapons faster than anything else, but I've only changed rings once and don't change the rarer stuff often; like headgear or cloaks or belts.

I bought a blue-colored (rare) mace - level 26 - for 1.5 gold and I've not run across anything better since then and probably won't for another 3-4 levels.

[MrHat]

That is also true of WoW. I still wear a lot of items I've made for myself as a leatherworker, and they are level 19 or some such (i'm level 29). I certainly go through weapons faster than anything else, but I've only changed rings once and don't change the rarer stuff often; like headgear or cloaks or belts.

I bought a blue-colored (rare) mace - level 26 - for 1.5 gold and I've not run across anything better since then and probably won't for another 3-4 levels.

Do you play a rogue?

I pretty much buy something new every level.  Keeps me awesome and stuff.

[Calantus]

Are you coming on to me?

Yes.

asl?

[Viin]

Do you play a rogue?

I pretty much buy something new every level.  Keeps me awesome and stuff.

Yah I play a rogue, but I don't actively look for something to buy. I might look for a new mace or dagger every couple of levels, but for armor I tend to just take either the best item I can make (or a friend can make) or the bestest quest item I've come across.

I do have 8 gold just laying around, waiting for that rainy day. I really do need a new dagger, maybe I'll buy one for myself for Christmas.

[ahoythematey]

Focus on the slow-speed high damage/hit daggers if you plan to use instant-cast skills a lot.

[Viin]

That's what I got maces for. ;)