Google Wave

[sidereal]

I pretended that I'm going to develop a wave/subversion/phpbugtracker integration to get in the dev preview, even though I really have no intention to.

[Delmania]

I pretended that I'm going to develop a wave/subversion/phpbugtracker integration to get in the dev preview, even though I really have no intention to.

Why not just use Trac?  That way, you can claim to be using Python, which is another Google favorite (I am looking at you, mod_wsgi).

[schild]

Prospero is having too much fun futzing around to even look for an invite butan :(

[Prospero]

My robot is talking to me now! MUHAHAHAHAHA!

No invite button sadly. I haz looked. You just have to make up a reason why you want to develop for it. You have an active imagination; I have faith you'll come up with something.

[schild]

So, is it a sandbox or a public server? Could I actually move my email to it?

Edit: Signed up with the intention of investigating the feasibility of creating an API to interface google wave with SMF to open up alternate means of forum communication.

[Prospero]

Sandbox. They wipe our accounts on occasion.

[fuser]

Sandbox. They wipe our accounts on occasion.

Play with http://wave-samples-gallery.appspot.com/about_app?app_id=20023 a cool and weird bot but it will be used to spam 

[WindupAtheist]

Can someone explain this without a masturbatory lather of buzzwords? Because as far as I can tell this boils down to "messageboards that update in real-time without you refreshing the page" and I think I'm missing something.

[stray]

Just think of it's main purpose as turning gmail into a collaboration suite.. But it'll probably be useful for non-business users as well.. In that sense, it'll be more like "social email" than collaboration. A wave could be any old thing, not just a serious project.. a link to an interesting news story or a photo or just any old bullshit topic like the threads here - which all of your friends can comment on or contribute to. People with more productive things to do will get more out of it. As for all of this stuff about mmo-like interactivity - I didn't even think of shit like that. I probably won't find it useful unfortunately, since I'm one of the only gamers I know.

I'm just simplfying it. Communication and colloboration are loaded words.. especially considering that this will be a popular (not to mention, open) platform, and there will be dozens of interesting ways to communicate and colloborate that aren't even apparent yet.

As for me, I'm getting into sucked into the MS cloud atm. I'll just wait for their ripoff version *to be announced any time now*.

[Yegolev]

I think I'm missing something.

I'm assuming it will be like MetaPlace but more sterile.

[tazelbain]

Metaplace is GeoCities.  I hope Google can do better than that.

[Yegolev]

You got my point, I think.  It's like how Facebook is more sterile than MySpace.  Sometimes sterile is good, or at least more professional.

[Prospero]

I can't in any way see how Google Wave is like Metaplace, except that they are both on the internet and use a browser.

[stray]

You got my point, I think.  It's like how Facebook is more sterile than MySpace.  Sometimes sterile is good, or at least more professional.

On a sidenote, I hate Google interfaces. Looks like 1999. With a Toys R Us logo. I don't mind sparse or professional, but it could be tweaked a bit.

[Grimwell]

I am very keen on getting into this when casual users are welcome.

I would like to put out a caution though, because the first thing I always do when I see new tech for the web is go "How can this be used for evil?"

With it being open and people being able to create their own networks... and have private conversations that involve the full exchange of any internet media format...  is going to love this.

Which is sad.

[Prospero]

You mean like email, IM, and IRC? 

There's nothing that new here, they're just nicely bundling a whole bunch of systems into one.

[Yegolev]

I agree, it's exciting to think I won't need half a dozen different applications to do things which are all really just data-transfer methods.

I can't in any way see how Google Wave is like Metaplace, except that they are both on the internet and use a browser.

I can see it.   Especially if someone makes a "mmo" for it, or at least if someone makes a 2D theme park containing hyperlinks.

[HaemishM]

The important thing is how is the pr0n industry (not the  one) going to use it? As goes pr0n, so goes the Interwebz.

[Yegolev]

Well, the first thing I'm going to do is draw a penis in it.

[sidereal]

How does the porn industry use e-mail?  Oh, that's right, they spam the fuck out of everyone with it and otherwise ignore it.

[fuser]

Got an invite today, must be letting more and more in. Anyone wanna swap wave id's in the the sandbox?

[schild]

Got an invite today, must be letting more and more in. Anyone wanna swap wave id's in the the sandbox?

Just waiting to see if I got my name. I gave them 3 options: schild, schild, and schild. But I didn't get a confirmation upon filling everything in, which was weird. I'll try again.

[fuser]

Yeah I went with binfuser so ping me when your on

[schild]

You already got in? :(

I didn't click for them to send updates via email, only google wave. Will I never get a response?

[fuser]

You already got in? :(

I didn't click for them to send updates via email, only google wave. Will I never get a response?

Yep got sent a welcome mail that was a form for the sandbox account. After filling out the sandbox application page (three name choices) I got an email back confirming access.

Try entering your info you used at https://wave.google.com/a/wavesandbox.com

[schild]

Hrm.

Still didn't hear back yet. Weird. Also, when I fill out the page, it doesn't say anything like "thanks for filling this shit out."

[Prospero]

It should. The first time I tried it I hit an error page. Try again later today. I think they are using a Google spreadsheet to handle all of the new accounts, so it might be overloaded.

[schild]

Nada.

[sidereal]

Same problem.  I either get a long wait and then a redirect back to the form or an immediate redirect back to the form.

Nice work, google.

[MahrinSkel]

Having a service explicitly labeled as "Beta, Not For Wide Public Use" where you can't handle the number of people wanting to sign up is what we refer to as a "High Class Problem".  Google may finally have found their non-search "killer app".

--Dave

[sidereal]

Update:  I decided to check back and now the application form actually works.  Or at least I get a 'thanks for entering the form' page instead of a blind redirect.

[Righ]

I think that the XMPP<->SIP gateway is going to be more interesting in the long run than any XMPP<->SMTP gateway. Most of what is provided by XMPP is worthless to email, so the overhead of all the presence data makes it something that isn't going to set the world on fire.

[sidereal]

Got my account setup.  The current default Wave client is borderline nonfunctional in Mac Firefox.  Will check Chrome when I get home.  Thinking of putting some effort into building tools to support running RPGs over waves, as it should have a lot more capability than play by post setups -- dice gadgets, spawning private conversations, etc.  Will probably cut my teeth on Wave Diplomacy or Wave Risk first.

[Kitsune]

Wanting a free everything-integrated service that isn't Google leaves only Live, to the best of my knowledge.  E-mail, instant messaging, 25 gigs of online file storage, calendar, blog, photo hosting.  You can get essentially the same from Mobile Me from Apple too, but for a hundred bucks a year, so.  Fuck that.

[NiX]

Anyone around here have an invite? I'm seeing a lot of casual people talking about being in it now and invites being tossed around.