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Soln
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on: July 16, 2009, 02:00:21 PM

Via Raph: The Game Crafter: Cafepress for board games!

http://www.thegamecrafter.com/home

I got 2 projects I can give them.  Be interesting to see what http://boardgamegeek.com/  think about it.

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Reply #1 on: July 16, 2009, 03:08:33 PM

As long as you don't need to deal with any sort of code.

Edit: Oh come on, silently fixing your post is playing dirty.
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Reply #2 on: July 16, 2009, 03:22:39 PM

This falls in line with some interests I may have.
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Reply #3 on: July 16, 2009, 06:08:06 PM

These guys can do playing cards too. As in if you wanted to make your own CCG or other card game these guys can produce the cards. So it's not just "board games" that they do.

Edit: Actually I don't know if they could do a real CCG as in create psuedo-random "packages" for you so you can sell "booster packs" and the like but you could certainly make "fixed deck" card games.
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Reply #4 on: July 16, 2009, 06:23:12 PM

yeah I went through their demos.  Fixed title.
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Reply #5 on: July 16, 2009, 06:44:54 PM

Now it falls even more in line with my interests.
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Reply #6 on: July 16, 2009, 06:45:12 PM

We should make an f13 game.
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Reply #7 on: July 16, 2009, 06:45:21 PM

Called Bat Country.
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Reply #8 on: July 16, 2009, 06:46:45 PM

awesome, for real
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Reply #9 on: July 16, 2009, 06:59:30 PM

Site needs more "beauty shots" of the actual games they sell.
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Reply #10 on: July 16, 2009, 07:02:11 PM

Or one called "Diku."

In fact, yes, "Diku."
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Reply #11 on: July 16, 2009, 07:22:13 PM

I have begun design on Diku. This is going to be fucking perfect. PERFECT. I need an artist. I'm too lazy to do that part.
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Reply #12 on: July 16, 2009, 08:14:51 PM

OH MAN

THIS IS GOING TO BE THE BEST GAME EVER MADE
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Reply #13 on: July 16, 2009, 08:22:17 PM

In the Box
10x Class Cards
50x Mob Cards
25x Boss Cards
200x Loot Cards
50x Character Sheets
3x Instruction Sheets
120x Winks
5x 3-sided dice
5x 6-sided dice
5x 8-sided dice
5x 10-sided dice

This shit is going like clockwork. It will be the standard MSRP of a next-gen game. The collector's edition will be more, but you won't get anything extra.
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Reply #14 on: July 16, 2009, 08:24:52 PM

The first edition will be the bat country edition.  Oh ho ho ho. Reallllly?
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Reply #15 on: July 16, 2009, 08:25:15 PM

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Reply #16 on: July 16, 2009, 08:26:06 PM

DIKU WARS




dikuwars.com is available
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Reply #17 on: July 16, 2009, 08:34:56 PM


shitty sword? 1d3

less shitty sword? 1d6

little less shitty sword? 2d3

THIS ISN'T ROCKET SCIENCE.  DRILLING AND MANLINESS
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Reply #18 on: July 16, 2009, 08:36:20 PM

Facepalm

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Reply #19 on: July 16, 2009, 08:38:18 PM

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Reply #20 on: July 16, 2009, 10:53:44 PM

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Reply #21 on: July 24, 2009, 09:21:36 PM


When I saw an article about GameCrafter I wanted to do up a game with graphics I have available so I searched for public domain card games (and then public domain board games). Two of the card games I found were called Slapjack and Snap. Both are a lot like War (which is probably another public domain one).


I picked Slapjack to base a game off of. Another game that looked good was Dalmatian Pirates and Volga Bulgars (see below).

Here's a list of "public domain" games or rulesets:

   1. Backgammon
   2. Checkers
   3. Go
   4. Nine Men's Morris
   5. Cats and Dogs
   6. Solitaire
   7. Roundabouts
   8. Brax
   9. Mancala
  10. Hasami Shogi
  11. Hoppers
  12. Dalmatian Pirates and Volga Bulgars
  13. Hex
  14. 3-D Tic Tac Toe
  15. Fandango
  16. Chess


I pretty much have my game done except for finalizing the rule document and getting my graphics exported.


Just a couple things of note from trying to use their system so far:

* PNGs don't seem to work so hot. Some issues with uploading and selecting them.

* The game boards are double sided (you can put graphics on the back).

* JPGs seemed to work okay. I haven't had anything printed yet so I don't know if the artifacts will show up even at 100% jpeg quality.

* Their system is a bit clunky for uploading and selecting the images. Probably a large file size problem.

* Managing a lot of cards seems difficult. Right now you can just select a card graphic and that makes a card. No other way to edit a card or sort them (besides the 4 decks).

* I've been shooting for 300 DPI and ran into a lot of issues exporting (and then importing) stuff right (for example 300 DPI but also only 825x1125). So make sure you have your graphics pipeline right before you do hundreds of cards wrong.
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Reply #22 on: July 26, 2009, 02:33:36 PM

thanks for trailblazing

I would have thought 300DPI should have been fine.  Thanks for the advice.  Let us know the rest of any lessons learned.
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Reply #23 on: July 27, 2009, 12:36:39 PM

I published my game and ordered a copy to see what the quality is. I ended up using 300 DPI JPGs for everything except the cover art which I went with a 300 DPI PNG. They claim the cover art should be 72 DPI but it looks cleaner by uploading a 300 DPI image. Their site ran much better Sunday night so adding all of the cards went much easier.

Cost on the back end is $8.35 for 52 card deck, a 10x10 board, and 1 page of instructions.

Fulfillment is suppose to take a week. Shipping was $8.04. No tax in California.

http://www.thegamecrafter.com/games/fupa-kingdoms-slap-dragon


Edit: Interesting. They just bumped the backend cost to $9.73. Apparently the additional cost is for quality control.
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Reply #24 on: July 28, 2009, 01:58:19 PM

I figured pricing would go up a bit simply because they would get a lot of business. That much money can probably hire 2 more highschoolers or so.
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Reply #25 on: July 30, 2009, 01:03:48 PM

Wow what the fuck is going on in here?

Also: three-sided dice? Huh?

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Reply #26 on: July 30, 2009, 07:41:22 PM

Wow what the fuck is going on in here?

Also: three-sided dice? Huh?
Yeah that's what I thought at first. They didn't make those when I was rolling dice around (we just rolled a 6-sided die) but think of it as a long prism. So you have 3 long faces and two small ones at the "ends" which don't count. It's not a polyhedron of 3 equal faces since that's not possible.
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Reply #27 on: July 30, 2009, 07:56:57 PM

I guess the smallest they offer is d4. >_<
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Reply #28 on: July 31, 2009, 12:29:45 PM

So you have 3 long faces and two small ones at the "ends" which don't count. It's not a polyhedron of 3 equal faces since that's not possible.

I always imagined the sides of a d3 would be curved and the tips would be points.  Your idea is about what mine is except I avoid the slim chance of one standing on an end.  Then again, you could round off the ends.  Poor people would just say 1-2=1;3-4=2;5-6=3.

I have thought about this a bit.

Personally, I'd have d4 as the low due to manufacturing efficiencies.

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Reply #29 on: July 31, 2009, 02:32:24 PM

Or just do a d6 with two 1's, two 2's, and two 3's. You wouldn't be able to roll a triangle prism thing satisfyingly.
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Reply #30 on: August 01, 2009, 08:23:31 PM

I've never gauged the "satisfaction factor" of die rolls.  Hmm.  But yes, that's what I was getting at, poorly, with my weird numbers and symbols.

HAY anybody ever play Dragon Dice? awesome, for real

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Reply #31 on: August 01, 2009, 09:54:10 PM

Well the possibility of accidentally rolling a "three-sided" d6 when you want a 1-6 result is probably a greater hassle than the mental math required to just do floor ceiling(d6 /2) on demand. I imagine it'd take a pretty OC personality to insist upon having a separate physical die just to roll d3.

Then again, I'm the one who's bothered by the inability of a d4 to skitter across a tabletop properly, so  Ohhhhh, I see..
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Reply #32 on: August 10, 2009, 10:08:02 PM

Continuing the derail, my dice basket contains a rigged d3. It has 1 1, 2 2s, and 3 3s.

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Reply #33 on: August 11, 2009, 03:28:58 AM

Enh, there's always Fate dice for what amounts to a d3.  Plus, Minus, Blank faces on a d6.

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