Modern Warfare 2, Prestige edition, -or- hey, blow your wad on this!

[Venkman]

I'm having an increasingly difficult time playing Multiplayer when the Javelin glitch is super prominent. Witchblades and Double Shotgun Dude also seem to be a prominent, hard to counter class.

The faster you play, the more of an advantage you are at. Because you round corners and kill with one shot faster than someone can react and plug 2-3 bullets into you, unless they are using a burst weapon with Stopping Power.

Did you play CoD4? How does it compare?

[Engels]

The last few posts are exactly why I only play CoD W@W tactical shooters. Crouch only, no run & gun. Get off my lawn!

[Pennilenko]

The last few posts are exactly why I only play CoD W@W tactical shooters. Crouch only, no run & gun. Get off my lawn!

Before I uninstalled W@W in anger of once again having a corrupted profile and having to start from scratch, I played only on tactical servers with rulesets i enjoyed. Unfortunately that will never be an experience i can enjoy with this release.

[LK]

I'm having an increasingly difficult time playing Multiplayer when the Javelin glitch is super prominent. Witchblades and Double Shotgun Dude also seem to be a prominent, hard to counter class.

The faster you play, the more of an advantage you are at. Because you round corners and kill with one shot faster than someone can react and plug 2-3 bullets into you, unless they are using a burst weapon with Stopping Power.

Did you play CoD4? How does it compare?

Yeah. The knife was used as it was originally as a close-encounters one-shot kill. Shotguns were far less prominent except on close-quarters, urban maps. Silenced Assault Rifles tended to be the king of the hill.

I've still been playing but I'm wondering if Blast Shield will survive a Javelin hit. Probably not as those who are glitching are using Danger Close which cancels out Blast Shield's gain. Javelin and dual 1887's can kill from a range that makes me cry.

Also, AC-130, as cool as it is, is a far inferior killstreak reward to chopper gunner. Chopper Gunner will rape an entire team even though it goes down faster. AC-130 has trouble nailing anything, especially people on the edge of the map closest to where the AC-130 is located. Not to mention reload times; if you don't use all the bullets on the 45mm or 25mm, it won't reload when you switch to a new weapon.

[Nonentity]

I suppose that's one (the only one?) reason to play it on PC - the patch turnaround time on the Javelin fix was pretty quick. By the time I wanted to get home to try it, it was patched out.

However! News from the front lines:

The knifer spec (tac knife/marathon/lightweight/commando) has found a new ally - the care package grenade. If you're holding a Care Package grenade in your hand (no pin pulled or anything), you move faster. Combine that with everything else in the knfier spec, and you are EVEN FASTER. Like, 1.25x faster.

[LK]

And a fast moving target is pretty fucking hard to hit regardless of how good you are at aiming.

Did the patch notes for MW2 get posted anywhere?

[AcidCat]

Did you play CoD4? How does it compare?

Overall I think CoD4 had a better multiplayer dynamic. Now charging like a madman at your opponents with either akimbo weapons or a knife build is a really effective way to play, so naturally a lot of people do it. Overall not an improvement on the formula IMO.

[LK]

It's not so much running at you charging, but the average encounter distance on certain maps heavily favors shotguns. The four major shotties (Striker, AA-47 (?), Ranger, 1887) see frequent use in most situations. The only natural counter is Riot Shields, and using those tends to reduce your overall score and K/D ratio because of how those are played. Actually fighting a Riot Shield user is a very cerebral affair 1v1.

Maps are fairly excellent, though.

[Nonentity]

Favela and Terminal are my two favorite maps. Highrise, Sub Base, Estate, Underpass, Skidrow and Invasion are good. Wasteland and Derail are just too big (I prefer closer range builds and I suck at sniping) for my taste, but they are not bad maps. I don't like Scrapyard, as the terrain is just really bizarre, and it has a weird flow. Afghan is... mediocre. Rust is only a map I've seen in Free-for-all, and it's absolute insanity - not quite big enough. Maybe for 1 on 1 it's okay. Karachi, Quarry and Rundown are just dogshit maps.

[LK]

I don't HATE any particular map except Derail due to its lopsided nature. It feels really weird to play that I just gravitate towards trying to control the middle building. Wasteland CAN be fun but also suffers from few chokepoints and my sucky sniper. There are some I prefer not to play though, like Estate, Quarry and Wasteland, due to how open they are and your potential at any given moment to be dying from a multitude of angles. Maybe I'm playing them wrong. Some maps shine on certain game modes while others can die in a ditch.

I do hate how some of the teams on certain maps have better camo for their uniforms (Russians on Estate, Marines on Afghan) that make it really hard to see them against a backdrop.

[Nonentity]

I don't HATE any particular map except Derail due to its lopsided nature. It feels really weird to play that I just gravitate towards trying to control the middle building. Wasteland CAN be fun but also suffers from few chokepoints and my sucky sniper. There are some I prefer not to play though, like Estate, Quarry and Wasteland, due to how open they are and your potential at any given moment to be dying from a multitude of angles. Maybe I'm playing them wrong. Some maps shine on certain game modes while others can die in a ditch.

I do hate how some of the teams on certain maps have better camo for their uniforms (Russians on Estate, Marines on Afghan) that make it really hard to see them against a backdrop.

Karachi and Rundown are two maps that I just hate. Estate annoys me in that all control of the map revolves around camping the house, but I'm of the mind that I hate the camping gamestyle that this game encourages so heavily, which is why I like knife builds and close range builds so much. I have Marathon in practically every build.

I always try to snipe on Wasteland and Derail, and I always fail miserably. It's just agonizing sitting there, knowing that on the short range maps, I'd be sprinting around willy nilly knifing people.

[LK]

I've found I just can't kill anyone with one shot while sniping, let alone using the Intervention Silenced which requires a headshot at close range to kill. I could use another rifle but that's the one I should be usin'.

Having good weapon statistics and what certain items do would better inform my tactical decisions. Unfortunately the game doesn't provide that information unless someone datamines the PC version.

[Nonentity]

Well, if we're gonna get technical...

http://www.mw2blog.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/12/Modern-Warfare-2-Weapon-Chart.gif

Using the silencer on an LMG or Sniper is just a bad idea overall. I generally use FMJs on my sniper rifle, just because I want to kill them in one shot. I'm bad enough at it, I don't want to have to try to hit them twice.

[LK]

That's more useful than what I read. Intervention Silenced + Chest/Head + Stopping Power = 50 * 1.5  = 75 * 1.5 = 112.5. Damage Near / Damage Far is a bit amgiuous but Assault Rifles don't have to deal with as much Recoil as LMG's at range.

Actually using Stopping Power with an LMG is just a good idea but I'm dumb or something for wanting to get max Cold-Blooded Pro challenge statistics.

Also: I don't understand how I'm supposed to get "Put every bullet from a clip into an enemy target" accomplished from the Precision Challenges when it supposedly takes me 3 hits with my LMG to hit a target but I blow through 10-20 due to lag between when I start firing, when it hits, and when I receive feedback on when the target is dead. Argh.

[Nonentity]

Yeah, the only challenge I've managed to complete with that particular one is the sniper rifle achievement.

Also, I roll with Cold Blooded in my sniper build, so I can try to not be seen, so I can't use a Silencer if I want to, and still land one shot kills.

[Surlyboi]

I'm a sniper. No two ways about it, a good 20% of my kills have been headshots and at least 60% have been with a sniper rifle.If I'm moving and shooting it's either because I've been flushed from my perch or because the map isn't amenable to that playstyle. I live for derail and for popping the ledge-monkeys that like to hang out by point C in Afghan.

My sniper build is a blinged Barrett with FMJ and thermal sight coupled with stopping power, and scrambler pro. Throw in an AA12 with FMJ and extended mags for close encounters and I'll do decent damage. On average, my kills never land me near the top of the list, but in the games I tend to play (CTF and Domination) they don't have to. I'm all about denying the opposition their objectives with the occasional long-distance headshot to just let them know they're not safe anywhere I can see them.

On the maps or games where I do have to run and gun, I'll usually run with a blinged ACR with a grenade launcher and ACOG with Danger Close Pro, Scrambler Pro and the AA12 again as backup with FMJ and extended mags.

[Nonentity]

Fuck the AA12, that shit is ridiculous.

Almost as ridiculous as dual glocks or the 1882s.

I must say, though, I did just get the 500 kills with the dual glocks achievement, so go me.

[Velorath]

NPD's for November came out yesterday.  Obviously MW2 came out on top, but the numbers were still pretty staggering.  4.2 million sold on the 360 and 1.87 million on the PS3.

[Azazel]

Also: I don't understand how I'm supposed to get "Put every bullet from a clip into an enemy target" accomplished from the Precision Challenges when it supposedly takes me 3 hits with my LMG to hit a target but I blow through 10-20 due to lag between when I start firing, when it hits, and when I receive feedback on when the target is dead. Argh.

Get a friend to stand directly in front of you?

[Nonentity]

Also: I don't understand how I'm supposed to get "Put every bullet from a clip into an enemy target" accomplished from the Precision Challenges when it supposedly takes me 3 hits with my LMG to hit a target but I blow through 10-20 due to lag between when I start firing, when it hits, and when I receive feedback on when the target is dead. Argh.

Get a friend to stand directly in front of you?

This, basically. You have to fire a few shots, wait for their health to regen, fire a few shots, etc.

[Surlyboi]

Also: I don't understand how I'm supposed to get "Put every bullet from a clip into an enemy target" accomplished from the Precision Challenges when it supposedly takes me 3 hits with my LMG to hit a target but I blow through 10-20 due to lag between when I start firing, when it hits, and when I receive feedback on when the target is dead. Argh.

Get a friend to stand directly in front of you?

This, basically. You have to fire a few shots, wait for their health to regen, fire a few shots, etc.

It's a lot easier with a sniper rifle. Of course, I tend to run out of targets.

[Nonentity]

Sniper rifle is the only weapon I have that achievement on, heh.

[Nonentity]

Got my first Tactical Nuke. Knifed, got to 11 kills, hid in a corner and did a Chopper Gunner, hit 25 kills, popped the nuke. 0 deaths, except from the self-death to the nuke.


It is pretty heart-pounding getting those last few kills.

[Strazos]

So...you rocked some nubs?

Also, is that the PC version?

[Nonentity]

Yeah, it was just one of the modes where it's a bunch of individual players matched into teams, no premade teams. And yes, PC version.

[LK]

So this new patch has changed Matchmaking, for sure, though I don't know how. What I do know is that I ended up on a game of 9v9 on Dust, Domination, with a score limit of at least 10,000. I couldn't tell as it was 1537 to 1375 with the bars hardly filled before I was booted from the game (185 - 135). Craaaaaaaazy.

[fuser]

I ended up on a game of 9v9 on Dust, Domination, with a score limit of at least 10,000

MW2 1.04 - 24/7 Dust

[Megrim]

With any luck it will soon be upgraded to 24/7 Dust2.

[Trippy]

LOL, is Dust anything like the CS de_dust map?

[Surlyboi]

It's actually called "rust" and no, it's nothing like dust. Though Invasion and Afghan are kinda dust-y.

[Nonentity]

http://www.mw2blog.com/modern-warfare-2-multiplayer-maps-rust/

The map is super tiny. On Free For All mode, you are basically firing on someone and under fire every time you spawn.

[LK]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xAuohk1VAew

[Nonentity]

The hacks in this game are so over the top, I can't help but giggle at them.

I only encounter a blatant cheater in maybe once in every 50 games on the PC side, so it really doesn't bother me all that much.

[Ookii]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xAuohk1VAew

That was amusing.

[snowwy]

The aim-bots they have meade fir MW2 is starting to get more used though. Played a match with a guy called _å_å or something the other night. 48 headshots in a row with the Steyr Aug LMG. Lots of vids on youtube showing them off.