Modern Warfare 2, Prestige edition, -or- hey, blow your wad on this!

[Demonix]

I'm seriously offended...so offended I actually bothered to pirate the damn thing (especially after the disappointment that was borderlands).

Fuck you and your stupid justification. You are part of the problem as well. How about some self control and just fucking pretend that the game doesn't exist and don't even give IW the satisfaction of thinking their stance is justified because of your piracy. Douche-bag

Curiosity mainly.  I wouldn't have done it if there was a demo, but NOOOOOO, of course there isnt one.

Don't worry though.  I played it for less time than it took to install, and promptly uninstalled it.  Then I went back to my legal copy of COD4 since it had features not present in the sequel.

So you can go fuck yourself if you think not wanting to be burned AGAIN as a consumer is a bad thing (I bought CoDWoW sight unseen and was HORRIBLY disappointed).

PS:  should have done it with borderlands too, but I bought the hype.  Shame on me and my love for post-apoc settings.

[jakonovski]

And here I am wondering how people can be just "eating up" Dragon Age, a game without an original bone in its body. That is bad for gaming as a whole, a stale repackaging of the same basic themes and game mechanics we've seen for years and years.

Different strokes.

My excuse is that I'm reliving the BG years through DA. It's been eight years since there was a game of DA's caliber, so it's definitely not too soon.

[LK]

$60 for a 5 hour single player experience? You bought MW2 (sorry, "acquired") for the single player? No wonder you feel so gypped. Your stupid levels are so high that you couldn't understand that a first person shooter's longevity isn't in a streamlined, scripted , intense experience.

Fuck.

[jakonovski]

$60 for a 5 hour single player experience? You bought MW2 (sorry, "acquired") for the single player? No wonder you feel so gypped. Your stupid levels are so high that you couldn't understand that a first person shooter's longevity isn't in a streamlined, scripted , intense experience.

Fuck.

Paying 60 for losing dedicated servers is even worse you know.

[Mosesandstick]

It's a slippery slope argument, but MW2 doesn't have a demo, which could be used as a justification for piracy. Then again try the game for an hour and you've already finished a fifth of it! 

[Azazel]

Fuck you and your stupid justification. You are part of the problem as well. How about some self control and just fucking pretend that the game doesn't exist and don't even give IW the satisfaction of thinking their stance is justified because of your piracy. Douche-bag

Be sure and go off on people like schild with your self-righteous douchbaggery as well, he's certainly had the opportunity to "preview" games via a friend of a friend. I'll be pirating it too whenever I can be arsed. The only rteason I haven't is because I'm lazy (same applies for Spore). I guess I'll be part of the problem too? Except I know I have more legit games than you (as does schild), so fuck your self-righteous douchbaggery right in it's eyehole.

$60 for a 5 hour single player experience? You bought MW2 (sorry, "acquired") for the single player? No wonder you feel so gypped. Your stupid levels are so high that you couldn't understand that a first person shooter's longevity isn't in a streamlined, scripted , intense experience.

Fuck.

Oh, I'll be "aquiring" MW2 soley for the SP as well. I didn't love the spammy MP in CoD4 but I did enjoy the SP, and I'd rather play a BF or TF for my MP-FPS fix. I guess your MW2 Fanboi-Defender levels are close to maxed by now?

Out of interest, did you play more of HL2's campaign or deathmatch?

[fuser]

I love this thread 

[Hoax]

iknorite?

This thread is so full of stupid it could only be about of these XBL terrible gameplay brofest shooters.

[Azazel]

iknorite?

This thread is so full of stupid it could only be about of these XBL terrible gameplay brofest shooters.

Oh, it's a retarded thread alright, though it's a crossplatform shooter. That has it's roots as a PC shooter. Not sure if you knew that, or if your insult-trolling is just weak. Either way, your post is stupid enough to be welcomed as part of this thread. 

[Rendakor]

Not to derail the stupid that's been the last two pages (nor the piracy debate that appears to be brewing) but...

Anyone have this on PS3? I don't have a headset yet, but if anyone else is going to be playing PM me or message me in game; my PSN handle is Rendakor.

Did this thread ever have any real discussion of the game? I jumped in about page 16 and all I saw was the old KB&M vs Controller bullshit for two pages.

[Pennilenko]

Fuck you and your stupid justification. You are part of the problem as well. How about some self control and just fucking pretend that the game doesn't exist and don't even give IW the satisfaction of thinking their stance is justified because of your piracy. Douche-bag

Be sure and go off on people like schild with your self-righteous douchbaggery as well, he's certainly had the opportunity to "preview" games via a friend of a friend. I'll be pirating it too whenever I can be arsed. The only rteason I haven't is because I'm lazy (same applies for Spore). I guess I'll be part of the problem too? Except I know I have more legit games than you (as does schild), so fuck your self-righteous douchbaggery right in it's eyehole.

$60 for a 5 hour single player experience? You bought MW2 (sorry, "acquired") for the single player? No wonder you feel so gypped. Your stupid levels are so high that you couldn't understand that a first person shooter's longevity isn't in a streamlined, scripted , intense experience.

Fuck.

Oh, I'll be "aquiring" MW2 soley for the SP as well. I didn't love the spammy MP in CoD4 but I did enjoy the SP, and I'd rather play a BF or TF for my MP-FPS fix. I guess your MW2 Fanboi-Defender levels are close to maxed by now?

Out of interest, did you play more of HL2's campaign or deathmatch?

How bout fuck any of you people who think theft for any reason is okay. How can you possibly justify stealing? Also explain how not wanting people to break the fucking law is self righteous.

[Demonix]

Fuck you and your stupid justification. You are part of the problem as well. How about some self control and just fucking pretend that the game doesn't exist and don't even give IW the satisfaction of thinking their stance is justified because of your piracy. Douche-bag

Be sure and go off on people like schild with your self-righteous douchbaggery as well, he's certainly had the opportunity to "preview" games via a friend of a friend. I'll be pirating it too whenever I can be arsed. The only rteason I haven't is because I'm lazy (same applies for Spore). I guess I'll be part of the problem too? Except I know I have more legit games than you (as does schild), so fuck your self-righteous douchbaggery right in it's eyehole.

$60 for a 5 hour single player experience? You bought MW2 (sorry, "acquired") for the single player? No wonder you feel so gypped. Your stupid levels are so high that you couldn't understand that a first person shooter's longevity isn't in a streamlined, scripted , intense experience.

Fuck.

Oh, I'll be "aquiring" MW2 soley for the SP as well. I didn't love the spammy MP in CoD4 but I did enjoy the SP, and I'd rather play a BF or TF for my MP-FPS fix. I guess your MW2 Fanboi-Defender levels are close to maxed by now?

Out of interest, did you play more of HL2's campaign or deathmatch?

How bout fuck any of you people who think theft for any reason is okay. How can you possibly justify stealing? Also explain how not wanting people to break the fucking law is self righteous.

If you want to bend over and watch the hobby get taken over by nickle and dime microtransactions and increased prices with decreased content, be my guest but know that you are just as much a part of the problem as someone who pirates games on a regular basis.  Do we want quality or quantity?

No, you don't HAVE to buy DLC, we can all think of games where there was plenty of content in the original game, but lately we've been seeing games with day zero DLC, and the justification of having seperate teams working on seperate content doesn't ring true for some reason.  I mean, I'm sure that is how it works, but I think business decisions are being made to get just a little bit more...and a little bit more...and a little bit more.

And now, with rumors of IWnet going to a pay model for access to 'hack free' servers?  It's like they are creating thier own ghetto so they can offer the wonderful luxury apartments they built!

So yeah.  Is 'aquiring' MW2 right?  no.  Do I feel justified?  yes.

[Pennilenko]

How about you just don't fucking support their products, don't buy them , and don't pirate them. Then they make no money and learn their lessons the right way. Oh, I can totally see how i am part of the problem though because I don't steal...........

Self control is so hard though.

[tgr]

Did this thread ever have any real discussion of the game? I jumped in about page 16 and all I saw was the old KB&M vs Controller bullshit for two pages.

There has been, yes, but the first few pages is people going squeee over the game before it was launched, which turned into what the fuck when the no lean, no dedicated, no console, no mods and 5 hour SP was disclosed, moved into a bit of discussion of the actual game/gameplay (although I doubt you'll see much in the realm of overly positive feedback ), and then moved into the kb/m vs pad discussion. I think that happened around page 13 or 14, not sure. Don't really feel like checking either.

I can summarize what I believe was my discussion of the game very shortly though:

It wasn't too bad, but I think CoD2 was better for pure adrenaline and feeling of immersion when playing (couldn't be arsed to reinstall steam quite yet, so no CoD4 replay yet). Also, after playing CoD2 for a few days, moving back to MW2 meant I was throwing grenades and knifing the wall infront of me the first few minutes as I tried to lean out. Basically, I thought MW2 was way too short, had a few levels where I thought the fighting immersion was broken due to the level design, and there were core interface options which I thought was missing.

Definitely not worth the $60 if you ask me, and a slap in the face for PC gamers and fans of the CoD franchise. Or, should I say, PC fans of the franchise, as I think console users are all squee over it.

[Azazel]

How bout fuck any of you people who think theft for any reason is okay. How can you possibly justify stealing? Also explain how not wanting people to break the fucking law is self righteous.

You're an angry random on the internet. I don't need to justify anything to you or even care what you think. If it were worth buying, rest assured that I'd buy it, but again. First two sentences are key.

At some point you'll tell us all how you've never in your life torrented a song, TV show or movie, never burned a CD or DVD or copied a game, taped a CD, or even copied a tape to another tape when you were a kid, because you've always followed the law to the letter and it's intent, and you've always had full respect for all creators of IP from birth, since your parents brought you up right, unlike all of us unwashed fuckers, and so on and on and on. Hell, you've never downloaded or inmstalled a no-CD crack for a game you legitimately own either, because that would be breaking the law.

More importantly though, I'm going to remind you of your angry man on the internet routine next time you're posting in a thread where schild mentions seeing some possibly-NQR software via that friend of a friend's friend who visits from time to time. So I can watch your big internet-badass balls shrivel into tiny wrinkled sacks rather than go off at him.

fake edit - Perhaps I should purchase it (on console) from EB games, then return it within the week they give you to return games in after playing the SP campaigh to completion. Actually, with Christmas coming soon, they give you until the end of January to return the game for a full refund. Perhaps I shall do that, instead. That way I'll not be breaking the law, I'll only be abusing a retailer's exchange system, which is clearly a better choice.

[CaptainNapkin]

If you think the game is crap and not worth buying, don't buy it. Any attempt to justify I read as a single word "entitlement," a big problem in the US. I've done it myself, but can admit it's stealing and don't do it any longer.

More on topic I've only played an hour of single player on 360 so far and it's been fun. Enough fun to burn use some coupons on gamefly and keep it for around 40 bucks. I'm sure this somehow makes me part of some problem.

Anyway, off to golf. I don't really like the course we're playing so maybe I'll sneak on and pirate a round, that'll teach 'em.

[NiX]

Let's not have this discussion again. It didn't end well the first time and it won't end well this time.

[jakonovski]

I feel like Gavrilo Princip when it comes to this thread.

[Pennilenko]

If you think the game is crap and not worth buying, don't buy it. Any attempt to justify I read as a single word "entitlement," a big problem in the US.

Its like a pirate magically thinks the industry owes them something.

[Pennilenko]

How bout fuck any of you people who think theft for any reason is okay. How can you possibly justify stealing? Also explain how not wanting people to break the fucking law is self righteous.

You're an angry random on the internet. I don't need to justify anything to you or even care what you think. If it were worth buying, rest assured that I'd buy it, but again. First two sentences are key.

At some point you'll tell us all how you've never in your life torrented a song, TV show or movie, never burned a CD or DVD or copied a game, taped a CD, or even copied a tape to another tape when you were a kid, because you've always followed the law to the letter and it's intent, and you've always had full respect for all creators of IP from birth, since your parents brought you up right, unlike all of us unwashed fuckers, and so on and on and on. Hell, you've never downloaded or inmstalled a no-CD crack for a game you legitimately own either, because that would be breaking the law.

More importantly though, I'm going to remind you of your angry man on the internet routine next time you're posting in a thread where schild mentions seeing some possibly-NQR software via that friend of a friend's friend who visits from time to time. So I can watch your big internet-badass balls shrivel into tiny wrinkled sacks rather than go off at him.

fake edit - Perhaps I should purchase it (on console) from EB games, then return it within the week they give you to return games in after playing the SP campaigh to completion. Actually, with Christmas coming soon, they give you until the end of January to return the game for a full refund. Perhaps I shall do that, instead. That way I'll not be breaking the law, I'll only be abusing a retailer's exchange system, which is clearly a better choice.

As a matter of fact I haven't ever done any of that shit. I have always followed the law. Its got nothing to do with how I was raised, I just don't steal shit. I have always paid for every piece of software I have ever used. I always purchase music I want to listen to because I support artists I like. Shit I even donate to freeware projects. People can't see beyond their own nature, you are a thief so you assume everyone else is too. And no I am not gonna go toe to toe with Schild because then I would be forced to give up this community. You are a jackass trying to bait me into a ban. I am sure Schild has no grandiose illusions like your's about piracy though.

I am not angry that you are a pirate, I am pissed that you think you can justify it.

[Megrim]

 

[tgr]

 

[Venkman]

Jeezus guys, get over yourselves. There's no collective wisdom to be accumulated in the yelling of inflexible positions. We have an entire sub-forum for that

Just because it says "game" doesn't mean you're entitled to like it.

[Rendakor]

Thanks for the recap tgr.

[NiX]

[Azazel]

Let's not have this discussion again. It didn't end well the first time and it won't end well this time.

I'll wrap my end up now in a civil way.


Pennilenko - in the end, neither of us really know Jack Bauer about each other, though from a few angry posts we can sling plenty of shit each way. My own stance on buying shit is pretty well written in many threads on this board, however. I'm not trying to get you banned, I simply want your angry moral outrage towards "pirates" to be applied consistantly on the board. Stand by what you say and all that. If I were trying to get you banned, I'd hardly have told you of my future intent.

As for the EBgames thing - their generous return policy is designed to allow people who are "on the edge" in making a purchase to just go for it in relative safety. While on one hand there are undoubtedly people who chain-abuse it, more than likely most people just end up keeping the games anyway. As a result of this thread, I think I will use this approach to try out MW2 (on 360). I've been playing Borderlands using a controller and enjoying it, so I'll give it a go. And if I like the game, as I've said before, I'll buy (keep) it. If not, I'll return it, fully in the intended spirit (trying a game without risk) of EBgames' system.

Not sure if they have the same policy in the US - here they both price match and offer a 7-day return. I recently returned Gulty Gear XS on XBox since despite being on one of the backwards-compatable lists, wasn't actually BC.

But yeah, we'll see how the game goes. Lorekeep certainly seems to be sold on it.

[LK]

I'm sold on it because I don't think too hard about it. Though the lag in multiplayer is meh. Worst part was when the game had to choose hosts twice in a row; that means Host Migration isn't all it's cracked up to be.

[waffel]

The game might not be that bad on its own, the issue people have is comparing it to other FPSs, especially ones in the CoD line. Its tough to pay extra to support a company that took away many of the features of previous games, and for no good reason.

Sure, if you don't think too much about it and were ignorant to previous FPS releases in the past 5-10 years you would see your purchase in a different light.

[tgr]

Them thar demanding PC gamers, pfwah, always got a hard-on for features. It's such a chore.

 

[Rendakor]

Sure, if you don't think too much about it and were ignorant to previous FPS releases in the past 5-10 years you would see your purchase in a different light.

That describes me pretty well; I'm not a huge FPS fan, but everyone I work with is playing this so I picked it up to have some fun with my buddies. My purchase is not representative of some statement about the genre as a whole, just buying a game to have some fun. Imagine that.

[Kageru]

And all irrelevant because the game is now enshrined as a "blockbuster" because everyone bought it because everyone was buying it. Like Halo.

I had no interest in the title to start with but can now express that as a conscientious objection to them being console focused, ripping off Australian gamers and capturing the mainstream with empty spectacle. When there's a decent PC shooter that allows me the same convenience and latency as the ISP hosted TF2 servers I play on I'll consider caring.

[Demonix]

And all irrelevant because the game is now enshrined as a "blockbuster" because everyone bought it because everyone was buying it. Like Halo.

I had no interest in the title to start with but can now express that as a conscientious objection to them being console focused, ripping off Australian gamers and capturing the mainstream with empty spectacle. When there's a decent PC shooter that allows me the same convenience and latency as the ISP hosted TF2 servers I play on I'll consider caring.

Speaking of which, is there anything that even looks remotely promising at this point?

[waffel]

I didn't think I'd be saying this a year ago, but I'm actually looking forward to an EA game (Battlefield: Bad Company 2)

[tgr]

Bad Company 2 certainly looks promising, but so did MW2 until they announced that they basically fucked it up at the last minute. I wouldn't hold my breath quite yet, in other words.

But the weapon sounds certainly sounds squee, as do the visuals when there's an explosion or the tank fires its main gun.

[Strazos]

Not sure if they have the same policy in the US - here they both price match and offer a 7-day return. I recently returned Gulty Gear XS on XBox since despite being on one of the backwards-compatable lists, wasn't actually BC.

Usually, if you open it, it is yours. You can exchange it for another copy if the one you bought is damaged. That's the general US policy, though we could generally make exceptions as we saw fit.