Torchwood

[palmer_eldritch]

If your inclined to be homophobic you wouldn't be watching Torchwood. Lafayette from true blood is a troll.

You mean you're, as in "you are". Your is the possessive case of you, as in "your jacket, it belongs to you".

Also, True Blood requires capitalisation because it is a proper noun.

[palmer_eldritch]

About that shocking ending

[Tebonas]

Same problem they had with Children of Earth. The authority figures were cartoon villains there as well.

[Der Helm]

Same problem they had with Children of Earth. The authority figures were cartoon villains there as well.

Cartoon villians make for a satisfying ending, though 

[Threash]

Same problem they had with Children of Earth. The authority figures were cartoon villains there as well.

Bs, that conversation they had on Children of the Earth about what kids to give up could be a word for word transcription of what would be said if it really happened.  That was one of the most chilling scenes i've seen in television, and what made it so scary is how real it all seemed. 

[Evildrider]

[Der Helm]

edit: Should this stuff not be spoilered ?

[Evildrider]

edit: Should this stuff not be spoilered ?

[Threash]

Yeah, it was obvious there wasn't enough storage room there to keep the class 1's unless they were running.

[DLRiley]

Same problem they had with Children of Earth. The authority figures were cartoon villains there as well.

Bs, that conversation they had on Children of the Earth about what kids to give up could be a word for word transcription of what would be said if it really happened.  That was one of the most chilling scenes i've seen in television, and what made it so scary is how real it all seemed. 

Which is why the ending was such a let down.

[Surlyboi]

I liked the ending. It made it more personal. Torchwood has always been about the personal stories set against the backdrop of sometimes intergalactic events. To kill 25% of the Earth's kids would have been ridiculous and unnecessary for the purpose of the story.

That said, this last episode was really good.

[Der Helm]

That said, this last episode was really good.

[Threash]

This feels completely different than previous Torchwoods, even children of the earth was about aliens from the start. I expect a lot of complaining from people not familiar with the show when it's finally revealed aliens are behind the miracle.

[palmer_eldritch]

Is the show getting watched in America, out of interest? Is it like a fringe thing for science fiction nuts or Anglophiles (Welshophiles) or is it seen as a mainstream show?

[Malakili]

Is the show getting watched in America, out of interest? Is it like a fringe thing for science fiction nuts or Anglophiles (Welshophiles) or is it seen as a mainstream show?

Its fringe, but its not on a station most people get.

[Talpidae]

Rapidly losing interest.  Taking five episodes to set up World War II isn't particularly impressive.  Get with the Aliens, or the Baddies or something.  Also, characters suddenly making 'Fallen Skies' levels of stupidity just to push the dramatic narrative along is utterly laughable.  The 'Coming Next Week' just seems to be 'Hey, people can become Nazis, who knew' and I'm bored already.

This show has done some nice wee things and put some thoughtful stuff out there, but we get it, evil conspiracy is evil ;  Let's move on, eh ?

[Tebonas]

Just for the record, my WTF would have been about the same if the made the same boring softcore porn scenes with a man and a woman (minus having boobs to look at to distract myself from the boredom), but what the fuck?

I thought short seasons have the advantage of a tighter script and no filler episodes. This was a classic filler episode with about five minutes of relevant information.

[Der Helm]

I am getting tired of the gay.

[Tebonas]

Now that you mention it. Wasn't Jack omnisexual once upon a time? Seems he does the deed only with men these days. A threesome with the girl across the street would have made this easier on the eyes.

[Der Helm]

Now that you mention it. Wasn't Jack omnisexual once upon a time?

That is what I remembered as well. I just guess they are using this to "shock" our American friends who are not that used to have softporn on their TV (yet).  /
 

[Surlyboi]

Yeah, but it's Starz. The home of Eva Green and Lucy Lawless's norks.

[Der Helm]

Yeah, but it's Starz. The home of Eva Green and Lucy Lawless's norks.

I wouldn't know. 

[Threash]

Well hello again annoying Gwen.

[NowhereMan]

Just caught up on this. Hannah Arendt must be pleased someone's read her book

The schizophrenic characters kind of bug me, as someone said they seem determined to keep switching between stupid and weak into competent super spies, the conclusion to the Welsh camp thing just sort of bugged me. I feel like the writers are throwing in 'Fuck yeah!' scenes for no reason. The thing that bugs me more though is that the conspiracy seems to involve a number of low level characters that are in on it (the hitman, that guy in the stadium who talked to the PR lady) while the more senior elements are totally in the dark. That just seems odd beyond using those bit characters to build the sense of an overarching conspiracy.

Speculations

[Talpidae]

Have you watched the latest one?  (Which, for the sake of clarity, we'll call the 'omg ghey secks' one.)

I now have suspicions about how this is all going to turn out and I don't think it's going to be as cool as we think.  I have a horrid feeling that RTD is just doing 'aren't people awful' here, rather than DAN DAN DAAAHN BADDY.

[NowhereMan]

Latest BBC one? Yes and I think you're right. It's an approach I think I like a lot more in theory than actually watching or at least I like a lot more in something other than my Who spinoffs. That said it's a much fucking better way of doing adult television than how it started.

[Threash]

Can we talk about the finale yet?

[adjunct]

Can we talk about the finale yet?

I'd rather pretend this entire series never happened.

[palmer_eldritch]

I'm waiting for someone to tell me what to think about the ending. It left me a bit nonplussed.

It seems that the thing that caused miracle day is


It seemed a bit of a cop-out to me but perhaps I expected too much.

Overall, I enjoyed the season. It was one of the very few shows I looked forward to each week.

[Der Helm]

[Threash]

As far as Oswald Dane goes:

[Der Helm]

"Keep running, Lucy"    / 

[Tebonas]

I liked the finale

[Der Helm]

[stu]

I figured immortal souls were being harvested to fuel an inter-dimensional invasion convoy engine bound for Earth. The aliens would arrive as infected data packets and knock out all of our wi-fi, inducing mass hysteria and failed suicides, increasing the output of the smokestacks.

I guess the hospital camp furnaces had no actual relevance to the story. Maybe I'll come back to this one at some point, but this show had the consistency of curdled cheese and lost me early on.