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WayAbvPar
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on: December 16, 2004, 01:49:30 PM

Sexson for 4/50- ugh
Beltre 5/65- HOLY SHIT!

I have an erection the size of the Space Needle right now. The Mariners might not suck total ass in 2005! I can't believe the front office actually grew a set and ponied up for some actual talent. I won't bitch as much about the $7.50 beers next season.

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Reply #1 on: December 16, 2004, 01:53:35 PM

The Diamondbacks overpaid for overrated players.  I still don't have a reason now to drive up for a game.  Troy Glaus, Russ Ortiz, Craig Counsell...
STILL MY BEATING HEART.

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Reply #2 on: December 16, 2004, 01:56:56 PM

Glaus at 11/per looks really bad when you see Beltre at ~13/per. Glaus has the better resume, but he is older and coming off an injury (which is precisely why I am not a big fan of the Sexson signing).

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Reply #3 on: December 16, 2004, 02:08:33 PM

HA HA


Being a Seattle sports fan is hot shit these days:

Seahawks: Lead the (admittedly horrific) division
Mariners: Signed Beltre
Sonics: Put that record in your pipe and smoke it, all ye prognosticating bitches.
Huskies F'ball:  Dropped Gilbertson for Tyrone Willingham
Huskies B'ball:  Nationally ranked.  2nd best team in the state.  

If we had an NHL team they'd end the lockout singlehandedly.

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Reply #4 on: December 16, 2004, 02:09:27 PM

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The Diamondbacks overpaid for overrated players.  I still don't have a reason now to drive up for a game.  Troy Glaus, Russ Ortiz, Craig Counsell...
STILL MY BEATING HEART.

Screw driving up, I live here and won't cross town to see one of these games. I wish we had kept Wally Backman if only for the headlines.
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Reply #5 on: December 16, 2004, 02:11:41 PM

Wait, what?
(checking MLB home page)
Ahh, dammit. As if the Dodgers needed to screw up their roster any more. Sure thing there, Depodesta. Let Beltre go, get rid of Lima and Finley, but sure as shit keep busted-up merchandise like Mayne and Penny. It's like watching Major League all over again, old beat up catcher and injured pitcher. Perfect team-up.

Oh yeah, keep ahold of that Alvarez guy, we need him to throw away a few more games next season.
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Reply #6 on: December 16, 2004, 02:15:10 PM

See, here's what I don't get.

Same team that wouldn't overpay Alex Rodriguez is now going to put over $100 million in 2 players? And where the fuck is Arizona getting all this bank? Didn't they claim to want to trade Johnson to get out from under his big contract?

And Beltre... watch out. In Seattle, I expect both he and Sexson's power numbers will plummet. Beltre may be a one-year wonder,since he never showed that much power/average before and was almost traded away in 2003. These signings look good on paper, but I'm not so sure.

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Reply #7 on: December 16, 2004, 02:22:27 PM

ESPN Radio is reporting that Tim Hudson just got traded...

to Atlanta.
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Reply #8 on: December 16, 2004, 02:26:06 PM

Millions of Red Sox fans cry out in agony...

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Reply #9 on: December 16, 2004, 02:27:13 PM

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Oakland traded right-hander Tim Hudson to the Atlanta Braves for two pitchers, left-hander Dan Meyer and right-hander Juan Cruz, and outfielder Charles Thomas on Thursday, the A's said in a press release.

Enjoy.
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Reply #10 on: December 16, 2004, 02:37:20 PM

Well, the Braves needed a starter and apparently the A's needed an untested minor leaguer, a 5th outfielder and another shitty reliever. I assume the "jewel" of that trade was Meyer, as he was supposedly well-regarded. Cruz failed with the Cubs as a starter, and I don't think he was all that great in middle relief either.

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Reply #11 on: December 16, 2004, 02:38:29 PM

Quote from: Shockeye
ESPN Radio is reporting that Tim Hudson just got traded...

to Atlanta.

It's a sad day for Oakland A's fans. We knew the Big Three would be broken up at some point but it's still depressing.
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Reply #12 on: December 16, 2004, 02:44:20 PM

RIP Washington Nationals 2004-2004

Oh well, maybe this will be the Pirates' year.  Yeah, I know.

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Reply #13 on: December 16, 2004, 02:59:46 PM

The Cards, meanwhile, are wasting away in the off-season.  We lost Mike Matheny, Tony Womack, Woody Williams, Edgar Renteria, and now Tyler Johnson who was maturing nicely in AA.  Sure, the pitching staff is healthy, but if the Cardinals don't pick up at least one ace pitcher in this off-season, what are their chances of even getting to the WS again next season?

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Reply #14 on: December 16, 2004, 05:19:50 PM

I'm from Detroit. When we discuss major league baseball, it means one thing:

FUCK ALL OF YOU.

Bring the noise.
Cheers.............
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Reply #15 on: December 16, 2004, 06:26:49 PM

Newsday is breaking some Randy news:

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The Yankees have reached agreement on the principal players in a three-team blockbuster trade that would land them coveted lefthander Randy Johnson, Newsday has learned.

A few details have yet to be worked out, but indications are they are not big enough obstacles to kill the deal.

The Yankees would receive the 41-year-old Johnson in the deal while sending pitcher Javier Vazquez and two minor-league prospects, catcher Dioner Navarro and third baseman Eric Duncan, to the Dodgers, according to an Arizona source. The Dodgers would send pitchers Brad Penny and Yhency Brazoban and outfielder/first baseman Shawn Green to Arizona to complete the deal.

I got no problem with this deal because AZ would receive Penny and Green and unload the Unit's contract.
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Reply #16 on: December 16, 2004, 06:27:12 PM

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Well, the Braves needed a starter and apparently the A's needed an untested minor leaguer, a 5th outfielder and another shitty reliever. I assume the "jewel" of that trade was Meyer, as he was supposedly well-regarded. Cruz failed with the Cubs as a starter, and I don't think he was all that great in middle relief either.

The thing about the Hudson deal is that Oakland at least got *something* from it. When their other big stars left they got nothing cause their contracts had expired. Hudson has another year on his contract with the A's but they knew they weren't going to be able to resign him so they "let him go" a year early so that they could at least get something in return.
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Reply #17 on: December 16, 2004, 10:38:49 PM

Oakland saved some money and got something back. But they're done now IMO. They missed their window.

The Yankees are getting older again, but Vasquez looked terrible last year. From what I have head the catcher they are losing is pretty good though. It's just another stop-gap solution. I wish they hadn't traded Ted Lilly.

The Sexson deal I don't get. Was injured and strikes out a ton. High potential to turn out terrible, as does Glauss. The DBacks got Sexson as a centerpiece of their offense and look how that turned out...

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Reply #18 on: December 17, 2004, 07:28:48 AM

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Oakland traded right-hander Tim Hudson to the Atlanta Braves for two pitchers, left-hander Dan Meyer and right-hander Juan Cruz, and outfielder Charles Thomas on Thursday, the A's said in a press release.

Enjoy.


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Reply #19 on: December 17, 2004, 07:43:52 AM

But what does this have to do with ESPN NFL 2k5?

WoW! GaH!
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Reply #20 on: December 17, 2004, 08:12:35 AM

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Oakland traded right-hander Tim Hudson to the Atlanta Braves for two pitchers, left-hander Dan Meyer and right-hander Juan Cruz, and outfielder Charles Thomas on Thursday, the A's said in a press release.

Enjoy.


YEAH! Suck on that Kenrick!


Feh... it's only 3 weeks until Carlos Beltran re-signs with Houston, prompting Roger Clemens to sign the line for 1 more year.  Wade Miller will hopefully be back in full form.  Brandon Backe and Brad Lidge really came into their own at the end of last year.  The only thing Houston's lacking pitching-wise is middle relief.  But hey, MICELI IS GONE TO JAPAN!  WOOT!

I look for the Cardinals to have a huge drop-off from their 2004 season.  The Cubs will be left without much offense and their pitching staff will have to shoulder the load.

The Braves should be pretty good as always, in a shit-ass division.  Oh yay, get excited!
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Reply #21 on: December 17, 2004, 08:22:53 AM

Shit, the Cubs could get rid of Sosa AND Alou, and if they bothered to learn what a fucking leadoff hitter is supposed to do, could STILL win the Central. If the people they got to replace the losses could actually, you know, play defense. The Cubs had more than enough offense last year, or would have, had they actually had a fucking table-setter getting on base.

Transcript of actual phone call:

"Hi guy! This is Jim Hendry!"

"Hi, Jim, what can I do ya for?"

"We're looking to trade Sammy Sosa."

*CLICK* Dialtone

Repeat 30 times.

"Hi, Omar! This is Jim Hendry."

"Hiya Jim, what can I do ya for?"

"DON'T HANG UP! We want to trade you Sammy Sosa."

"Hmmm, that's a thought, I like Sammy, and he could really bring in some fans and... hey look, Carlos Delgado!"

*CLICK*Dialtone

Sounds of weeping are heard all throughout Chicago

On to players teams actually want, Vazquez IS a good pitcher, but for whatever reason, he didn't put it together in New York. In Arizona, he might shine like he did in Montreal. I think he has Cy Young Stuff, but he may have a Turk Wendell brain. Green's best years are behind him. Penny would be a good pickup.

But I HATE the thought that the Yankees might have Johnson, Wright, Pavano AND Beltran. How do you compete with that?

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Reply #22 on: December 17, 2004, 08:41:13 AM

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But I HATE the thought that the Yankees might have Johnson, Wright, Pavano AND Beltran. How do you compete with that?


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Reply #23 on: December 17, 2004, 08:49:33 AM

ATTACK OF THE JUICEHEADS!

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Reply #24 on: December 17, 2004, 11:01:48 AM

Wait, wait, wait....

Is this RICHIE Sexson getting over 10 million a year???!!!???

Man I must be really out of touch but when did a player who's never hit over .280 while playing full time in his career and strikes out over 25% of the time he comes to the plate become worth 12.5 mil/year? Not to mention he missed almost all of last season.

Man I really hated that guy when he was in Cleveland. Between him and Thome they really kept the crowd nice and cool on a hot day...
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Reply #25 on: December 17, 2004, 11:14:09 AM

Haven't you heard? Home runs are much more important than number of strikeouts nowadays.

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Reply #26 on: December 17, 2004, 01:50:14 PM

Chicks dig the long ball.

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Reply #27 on: December 17, 2004, 04:03:31 PM

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But I HATE the thought that the Yankees might have Johnson, Wright, Pavano AND Beltran. How do you compete with that?

Do you remember the team the Yankees fielded at the beginning of last season? How everybody was pissed and lost all hope? Then the Yankees lost. To Boston. That alone has given me faith there is a God.

Doesn't mean I still won't bitch and hate the Yankees, but they have proved that no matter how much money they spend on arrogant asshats, they can still lose.

In other related asshat news, Pedro is a Met.

.......hahahahahaha

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Reply #28 on: December 17, 2004, 04:46:55 PM

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In other related asshat news, Pedro is a Met.

.......hahahahahaha

Pedro could give Blizzard fanboys lessons in whining.
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Reply #29 on: December 17, 2004, 06:31:07 PM

Red Sox get Clement.

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Right-hander Matt Clement, who became one of the most sought-after free agents this winter, on Friday agreed with the Boston Red Sox on a three-year deal that is believed to be in the range of $25 million.
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Reply #30 on: December 18, 2004, 12:05:39 AM

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In other related asshat news, Pedro is a Met.

.......hahahahahaha

Pedro could give Blizzard fanboys lessons in whining.

And Bonds a lesson in arrogance.

Speaking of which, why, when I look down the long list of transactions, I only see one thing by the Giants for the whole page, and that is "Released A.J. Pierzynski"?  Our team has lost players every single year for the past few years, with nobody brought in to replace them.  Why the fuck won't our owners spend anything else on the team!!!!  We need at least one more big bat besides Bonds, not to mention the state of our pitching rotation.  We had really better get somebody this off season, I was so pissed when all those good players were up for grabs last year and we didn't even make an attempt.
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Red Sox get Clement.

And it looks like the Yankees and Sox are building up for WW3 yet again ths year.

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Reply #31 on: December 18, 2004, 12:39:29 AM

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Speaking of which, why, when I look down the long list of transactions, I only see one thing by the Giants for the whole page, and that is "Released A.J. Pierzynski"?  Our team has lost players every single year for the past few years, with nobody brought in to replace them.  Why the fuck won't our owners spend anything else on the team!!!!  We need at least one more big bat besides Bonds, not to mention the state of our pitching rotation.  We had really better get somebody this off season, I was so pissed when all those good players were up for grabs last year and we didn't even make an attempt.

The Giants have one of the highest payrolls in baseball (in the top ten for last year) so it's not like they are spendthrifts like the A's across the Bay. However they way they spend their money is annoying in that they aren't willing to pull the trigger on another superstar hitter to support Barry like you said. Can you imagine how even more eye-popping Barry's stats would be if somebody like Vladimir Guerrero, who they could've tried for last year but didn't, was batting behind or in front of Barry?
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Reply #32 on: December 18, 2004, 12:55:51 AM

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Speaking of which, why, when I look down the long list of transactions, I only see one thing by the Giants for the whole page, and that is "Released A.J. Pierzynski"?  Our team has lost players every single year for the past few years, with nobody brought in to replace them.  Why the fuck won't our owners spend anything else on the team!!!!


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Reply #33 on: December 18, 2004, 12:13:04 PM

Matheny is a really good catcher, and he'll help improve your pitching staff, but don't expect much in the way of a bat.  Some years he struggles to hit above .210.  He's managed to improve a little the past couple of years; his average is up around .250 and he'll rip a few doubles for you as well.  While I'm sorry to see him leave the Cards, he was always a weak spot in the lineup.

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Reply #34 on: December 18, 2004, 04:00:08 PM

St. Louis is a playah.

ESPN Radio just broke that St. Louis aquired A's pitcher Mark Mulder.
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