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Reply #1190 on: November 02, 2009, 06:44:58 AM

I have been taking pics of some of my favorite weapons but I am too busy playing to bother to drop them into my Dropbox.  Roland really hit it around level 10 and currently at 15 I'm perforating lots of things without spending an enormous amount of time sweating tactics.  I'm a big believer in regenerative shields and I don't carry health packs, but that's OK since eight times out of ten, Roland can unload enough buckshot into something to get a second wind if I do end up on my back.

I can't settle on a weapon.  My main is a blue shotgun, non-elemental right now but it has a tasty fire rate and holds nine cartridges per magazine, and of course I'm maxed on the shotgun+ skill.  Besides that, I seem to carry one of everything... mostly because I can't seem to find a combat rifle that is better than shit.  The three I have equipped most of the time is the shotgun, a sniper (187 dmg straight) and a purple SMG (80+ dmg 3x fire, and that rocks) that I found right after I killed Bonehead.  I also keep a rocket launcher (280+ dmg straight, but somehow sucky) and a revolver (80+ dmg straight) for "emergencies".  I had to drop the repeater due to inventory issues, but I might pick up another later.

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Reply #1191 on: November 02, 2009, 07:27:54 AM

I did a similar thing with my Roland, although I did find an awesome combat rifle around level 30 that I've been using ever since. Combat rifles seem to really need skill points/class mods benefiting them to shine though, especially increased magazine size since the best ones all seem to have 12 round mags. Getting that up to 20 or so makes them much better for medium range, although there's always a sniper rifle and an SMG in my slots too.

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Reply #1192 on: November 02, 2009, 08:02:53 AM

So I killed Krom this weekend and he never fired a shot.  I shot him through a window with my SMG from a distance.  Then I won. 

Yawn.

Sitting at 26 and I completely overleveled the entire area.  I feel like I'm skipping through stuff.
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Reply #1193 on: November 02, 2009, 08:06:39 AM

I've really enjoyed this game but I don't think it'll have much replay value for me.  I'd like to see them take this formula and make another game with more interesting and varied environments and enemies.
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Reply #1194 on: November 02, 2009, 08:12:34 AM

A friend and I are level 31 and I am assuming we are working towards the end in the next couple play sessions.

We've been doing every possible side quest for no particular reason other than we want to experience all of it.  He is a Soldier/Medic and I am  Brick/Tank and we basically clean up.

I have a ton of hitpoints and shields, so I basically charge in with a shotgun most of the time, and pop Berserk every cooldown.  I'm currently working on reducing the cooldown length of that, as it is WAY more fun than I anticipated.

I'm pretty sure we are being extremely sub optimal in terms of skill choices and gun choices, but we are choosing what is most fun, and still have 0 problems.


as for replay value.  I have a feeling we will take these characters to 50, and probably start new characters.  I haven't had the same feeling of fun playing solo and I have multiplayer, and have been sinking my solo play time in Torchlight.  We'll wee what happens long term.
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Reply #1195 on: November 02, 2009, 08:13:50 AM

I think the combat rifle I've got now is up over 100 per clip with skills/mods. With the boosted RoF, I need it :) Just got an ammo regenerating SMG for backup if I run out of MG ammo.

REALLY wish they'd patch in more lines for item stats. It's making the game difficult, you have to tote out a bunch of new guns and try them all out to find 'hidden' stats, because it'll only show you four lines of text, and often two lines taken up by the red quotes...

I'm pretty happy with my loadout right now, but I haven't found a good shield in a looong time. Only found one with 'slow' health regen, the 'very slow' ones are even worse, and the slow one is not strong enough to use regularly (about 120 shields vs 320 or so on my regular shield). And I've had that regular shield for twelve levels or so, bumming me out.
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Reply #1196 on: November 02, 2009, 08:20:59 AM

I'm pretty happy with my loadout right now, but I haven't found a good shield in a looong time. Only found one with 'slow' health regen, the 'very slow' ones are even worse, and the slow one is not strong enough to use regularly (about 120 shields vs 320 or so on my regular shield). And I've had that regular shield for twelve levels or so, bumming me out.

If you're around 21ish you can get a quest to kill King Wee-Wee.  He drops a purple shield that seems to have no stats and sucky (180ish) shield strength.  Don't believe it, the hidden bonuses are amazing, you'll use that shield for 10 levels easy.

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Reply #1197 on: November 02, 2009, 08:23:46 AM

I'm pretty happy with my loadout right now, but I haven't found a good shield in a looong time. Only found one with 'slow' health regen, the 'very slow' ones are even worse, and the slow one is not strong enough to use regularly (about 120 shields vs 320 or so on my regular shield). And I've had that regular shield for twelve levels or so, bumming me out.
What.

What are the hidden stats?

If you're around 21ish you can get a quest to kill King Wee-Wee.  He drops a purple shield that seems to have no stats and sucky (180ish) shield strength.  Don't believe it, the hidden bonuses are amazing, you'll use that shield for 10 levels easy.
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Reply #1198 on: November 02, 2009, 08:27:21 AM

http://gbxforums.gearboxsoftware.com/showthread.php?t=83080

Apparent fix for 4 line limit. Can't test it currently.  

edit: Apparently there's a hard coded limit for only showing 5 stats.  So the best you'll do is see an extra one you would have missed normally.
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Reply #1199 on: November 02, 2009, 08:34:54 AM

Testing Testing Testing Testing Testing Testing Testing Testing Testing Testing Testing Testing Testing Testing Testing Testing Testing Testing Testing Testing Testing Testing

oh my
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Reply #1200 on: November 02, 2009, 08:45:42 AM

I tested this out... nothing shows more than for mods, though it make the font smaller...  It could be I have nothing with more than 4 mods?  I guess this is what I get for not paying attention to official forums, I had no idea I was being gimped out of bonuses, I've casually gotten rid of guns that probably would have been awesome. Doh.  ACK!


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Reply #1201 on: November 02, 2009, 08:55:38 AM

Don't believe it, the hidden bonuses are amazing, you'll use that shield for 10 levels easy.

Hidden bonuses? I sold that shield because from the visible stats it was way inferior to what I had.
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Reply #1202 on: November 02, 2009, 08:58:13 AM

I just want to point out that this is just another example of "things made for Xbox users." The box doesn't scale and the font is huge because they wanted to cater to asshats with SDTVs - which would be fine if they thought for a second about their port.
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Reply #1203 on: November 02, 2009, 09:01:55 AM

I've just been blindly using the price as a gauge of quality. I figure the merchants can see that stats I can't.
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Reply #1204 on: November 02, 2009, 09:03:51 AM

The game gets a lot harder on the second playthrough. More enjoyable.

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Reply #1205 on: November 02, 2009, 09:12:29 AM

I've just been blindly using the price as a gauge of quality. I figure the merchants can see that stats I can't.
Yeah, pretty much this.

I'll have to go look for the weewee, I'm level 23. What bonuses, though? Chopping off almost half my shield would hurt!
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Reply #1206 on: November 02, 2009, 09:47:18 AM

It has about ~20-25% health bonus (took me from 440 to 630), regens health at 10/s, has one of the fastest shield regens I've seen, has elemental damage mitigation and does an elemental effect when depleted.

Sure, the 187 shield is low but it regens so fast it's pretty much always full and if you do take a health hit you won't notice because it just heals right up again.
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Reply #1207 on: November 02, 2009, 10:42:46 AM

Where is this quest?
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Reply #1208 on: November 02, 2009, 10:44:43 AM

New Haven bulletin board.

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Reply #1209 on: November 02, 2009, 10:59:26 AM

I've just been blindly using the price as a gauge of quality. I figure the merchants can see that stats I can't.

Prices are determined by base weapon type, color, and manufacturer more than actual stats it seems.
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Reply #1210 on: November 02, 2009, 11:05:55 AM

 Heartbreak
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Reply #1211 on: November 02, 2009, 11:25:08 AM

PC port is a carnival act.

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Reply #1212 on: November 02, 2009, 11:25:53 AM

Yeah but it runs so smooth and, as expected, allows for much better aiming. I saw someone playing Hunter walking through a crowd of mobs and head shot head shot head shot.

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Reply #1213 on: November 02, 2009, 11:39:28 AM

I will give them credit on the performance front. Sadly, I still wish I could get my money back. It's been a long time since I've been this disappointed by a game and my bar wasn't even that high. It's great when you can get a multiplayer game going, but the game design and matchmaking conspire to make that difficult at best.
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Reply #1214 on: November 02, 2009, 11:42:55 AM

I would have to agree even with the consolitis the PC version suffers minimal loading times combined with nice smooth targeting makes things like sniping a joy in this game. I was having way to much fun rapid fire blowing peoples heads off. I got a new sniper rifle that has a 10 round clip and almost no lag between shots so you can just go BOOM BOOM BOOM BOOM BOOM and mow down targets rapid fire. Thing rapes my ammo supply though not used to such rapid fire snipeability but god damn its fun.

Also got a fun lil level 19 revolver 2 like 200 damage and x4 explosive shot. That thing is a head popper and skrag gibber.

I was pretty shocked to hear about the display limitation thats insane in a game thats so loot driven to not actually let you see all the damn mods. Its hard enough to choose between weapons as is but now there may be other unlisted stats too? sheesh.
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Reply #1215 on: November 02, 2009, 11:50:39 AM

Yeah, it's not as if the console version doesn't suffer the single biggest flaw in the game. And the buggy pc version at least lets you mod 4 lines to 5 lines.
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Reply #1216 on: November 02, 2009, 11:52:24 AM

I can sum up my enjoyment of this game in six words:

Hehehe.  I'm really good at this!

Hahahaha!  I'm really good at this!
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Reply #1217 on: November 02, 2009, 12:14:32 PM

The "not knowing what your weapons actually do" thing is kind of off-putting. I think I will wait for this to go on sale, no point in getting it until at least when my new pc gets here, and the first thing I need to do on that is OCD out on Dragon Age.

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Reply #1218 on: November 02, 2009, 12:24:49 PM


I was pretty shocked to hear about the display limitation thats insane in a game thats so loot driven to not actually let you see all the damn mods. Its hard enough to choose between weapons as is but now there may be other unlisted stats too? sheesh.


This. I'm enjoying it but in a game that's gear driven and all about BAZILLION GUNS!!! this is a pretty significant thing. Might just play Torchlight for a while and see if the community/gearbox patches this one up a little further.

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Reply #1219 on: November 02, 2009, 01:09:49 PM

Hehehe.  I'm really good at this!

That's a good one, better than my current "I LOVE THIS DAMN THING!"

I'll elaborate and say that the circus act is generally limited to the UI and odd presentational bits.  I played this on 360 and the game itself is garbage on that console.  However, the minimal effort put into the port is sad.

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Reply #1220 on: November 02, 2009, 01:31:56 PM

However, the minimal effort put into the port is sad.
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Reply #1221 on: November 02, 2009, 02:34:31 PM

However, the minimal effort put into the port is sad.
Yeah, need a new sig quote for this one.

I love that quote, you can almost see the shiteating grin on his face while he says it. Of course the pc is the fucking development platform, it's not like they program xbox games on a fucking xbox.
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Reply #1222 on: November 02, 2009, 09:36:34 PM

Why is anyone complaining about the ending of Borderlands? Far as I can tell, it had no ending.
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Reply #1223 on: November 02, 2009, 09:42:23 PM

Why is anyone complaining about the ending of Borderlands? Far as I can tell, it had no ending.

I think people just wanted to go in the Vault.  I know I did.  Regardless, it had such a negative build up here that it didn't bother me much. 

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Reply #1224 on: November 02, 2009, 10:37:06 PM

I kind of lost all interest when I
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