Borderlands

[Murgos]

Eh, the commands for menu's in Borderlands are just retarded.  E to interact with something that opens a menu, page down scroll through the text, ENTER to accept and the ESC to exit.  Uh, what?

How about E, to interact, E to accept and then E again to exit and the scroll wheel to, uh, scroll?  The menu interaction smacks of having handed it to an intern to port it to the PC.

"Hey, look I already coded this whole system to be event driven off the game pad key press events, just change them to be key board key events and I'll give you an A for your class."








Here is a list of what all the red text modifiers in weapon descriptions mean: http://www.gamefaqs.com/boards/genmessage.php?board=942810&topic=51975090

[schild]

right after getting sledge's shotty i found a white shotgun with 5 rounds quick reloading and autofire that has been my win button for 4 levels now.

Yea, I really have no clue when I'll get rid of my 2 chamber revolver.

[Sky]

Some combat rifles, the ones with the larger clips usually, are full-auto.  I tend to stick with this type as a back-up weapon.

That's why I'm going to miss the combat rifle I'm using now (linked above). It's semi but no 3-shot bursts, I can fire individual shots with it, then open up as things get closer. Low RoF and big clip are spoiling me.

[Morfiend]

When MP works this is a lot of fun. It desperately needs a big patch to unfuck many parts of it though.

I agree 100%. Also, how is it possible for them to fuck up a UI this badly. Its almost like they tried to make it horrible.

I don't know why it's so hard for you guys to wrap your brains around the fact that the UI was designed with the console in mind and they either didn;t have time or budget to port it properly to PC

Because, its not just a console UI, its like when they converted the UI to PC they said "ok, what would be the worst possible key to use for this" and then used that one. A lot of times they use the enter key to change a field, and then the Esc key to accept and go back a menu. Its fucking horrible. If they had just had a bit of thought in it, they would have always used "E" to accept and Esc to not accept. Like pretty much every other console port. But nooooo.

[LK]

There are two types of Assault Rifles. Battle Rifles have clips in multiples of three and tend to be ranged weapons. The Soldier's Overstock talent (+ clip size) benefits these weapons. Otherwise they get pretty useless if they don't reload fast. The other type is the one more suited for other classes, like the one Sky is using, and can be pretty powerful but could benefit from even a small scope. I find SMGs feature the 1.4x zoom scope more often than Assault Rifles.

[WayAbvPar]

When MP works this is a lot of fun. It desperately needs a big patch to unfuck many parts of it though.

I agree 100%. Also, how is it possible for them to fuck up a UI this badly. Its almost like they tried to make it horrible.

I don't know why it's so hard for you guys to wrap your brains around the fact that the UI was designed with the console in mind and they either didn;t have time or budget to port it properly to PC

Probably because were led to believe it was not just a console port, when in fact that is precisely what it is. And a particularly bad one as far as the UI and multiplayer bits go.

[Draegan]

I can't wait for tonight.  I can't wait to get that gun that makes me go omg.  I'm frothing right now.  Frothing.

[Sky]

Another gripe is the driving. I'm getting used to it, and it's a lot of fun. But the controls drive me nuts. Does the left thumbstick on consoles look around? Coming from GTA4 recently (using a 360 pad), having my mouse steer instead of look is driving me crazy. Maybe I just have to re-map the vehicle controls, I hate digital steering (left/right on a/d) but I'd deal with it to be able to look around while I'm driving. I've driven into many walls or over cliffs when I was just trying to look over there...

Luckily, like most things with this game, the fun trumps the frustration by a mile.

[WayAbvPar]

Can anyone come up with an explanation as to why there is no mini-map?

[Draegan]

Hey there's a compass...

[Morfiend]

Can anyone come up with an explanation as to why there is no mini-map?

Because Borderlands is hardcore yo.

[Yegolev]

Can anyone come up with an explanation as to why there is no mini-map?

Probably would take up too much room on a medium-sized TV.

[Ookii]

[Morfiend]

Spoiler tags?

[Amaron]

For people having trouble posting multiplayer I've got a couple tips that have helped:

1)  You have to open the ports obviously.
2)  After opening the ports either restart your computer or do a ipconfig /release ipconfig /renew in the command console.
3)  Make sure to restart borderlands after doing all that.
4)  If you still can't invite them to private games then make a public game.  For some reason all the people I've walked through it have been unable to do invites into private games untill they make a public game first.

[Morfiend]

I found that if I was hosting a game, even if by myself or in a lobby, I couldnt get invited. But if in singleplayer or in the main menu I could be.

[Engels]

So, I have a DSL modem which acts as a router with one network jack, which I then connect to a regular linksys router with 4 jacks which then connect to our computers. Do I need to do port forwarding on just the linksys, or on the DSL modem as well? There's a limit to how fiddly I'm willing to get with any one game.

[squirrel]

Not sure if this has been posted but I hadn't seen it before. Ranking of types of guns by colour.

White < Green < Blue < Purple < Yellow < Orange < Dark Orange < Pearlescent

Apparently Pearlescent is hard to distinguish from white but it will have flavour text and stats that are obviously not white.

[Goreschach]

This game really could have been great, but the more I play it, the more I get pissed off at it. There are so many horrible little design decisions that make me question whether anyone even bothered to test the game after they finished it. I may or may not do a newgame+, but this game just isn't going to have the long lasting appeal of something like Diablo.

[Venkman]

Is F8 for screenshots?

Edit: why yes, yes it is. Stupid UI. Only found it by poking around WillowInput.ini.

[Hoax]

Until I can figure out why Vent completely broke the day I downloaded and installed Borderlands I'm not sure I can be bothered to play this game.  I'm really at a loss but all voice com is utterly fucked right now for me.

[Azazel]

This fucking thing is still locked on non-US steam until tomorrow. The feedback on the degree of consolitis and degree of fucking around with .ini files and such required to have it play half decently makes me think I may just wait for the Miracle Patch before I bother to start playing it on PC.

 

[Malakili]

This fucking thing is still locked on non-US steam until tomorrow. The feedback on the degree of consolitis and degree of fucking around with .ini files and such required to have it play half decently makes me think I may just wait for the Miracle Patch before I bother to start playing it on PC.

 

If you put in the 10 minutes necessary to get everything set up the way it should be, its really worth it.  I think this thread makes it seem worse than it really is in terms of game experience.  Most of the posts here have been negative...but look at the guns of pandora thread...that thread keeps getting new screens posted for a reason.

[squirrel]

This fucking thing is still locked on non-US steam until tomorrow. The feedback on the degree of consolitis and degree of fucking around with .ini files and such required to have it play half decently makes me think I may just wait for the Miracle Patch before I bother to start playing it on PC.

 

I've barely bothered with tweaking - just the skippable movies - and I enjoy it a lot. It's got consilitis. But the atmosphere and GUNZ are very fun. It doesn't really need a miracle patch (well, the multiplayer does) but the single player is silly shooty goodness for all its faults.

[Surlyboi]

This game really could have been great, but the more I play it, the more I get pissed off at it. There are so many horrible little design decisions that make me question whether anyone even bothered to test the game after they finished it. I may or may not do a newgame+, but this game just isn't going to have the long lasting appeal of something like Diablo.

You shut your whore mouth.

[schild]

Started my Lilith for reals.

Getting the Lady Finger on the way to Nine Toes makes a hell of a difference.

[rattran]

On the downside, this game really has the 'just one more' thing really bad. It's 4.5 hours past where I was going to stop.

[FatuousTwat]

Until I can figure out why Vent completely broke the day I downloaded and installed Borderlands I'm not sure I can be bothered to play this game.  I'm really at a loss but all voice com is utterly fucked right now for me.

Mine has been unbinding/ignoring my push to talk keys randomly for about a month, it's driving me up the wall.

[Yegolev]

Started my Lilith for reals.

Getting the Lady Finger on the way to Nine Toes makes a hell of a difference.

Hey, I left Lilith after Nine-Toes (and three balls, nyuk, nyuk) to make a Roland last night.  Still trying him out, stopped just shy of going to 9T's lair.  I'm not sure I "get" what I am supposed to do with Lilith, skillwise, although I do like Phasewalk for defense purposes and her shield buff is cool.

[Draegan]

Lilith is great once you get some of her control abilities.

My Current build looks something like this:
http://downloads.2kgames.com/borderlands/website/skilltree/lilith/#21500552100000000000000

I can run in, daze a bunch of people out of Phasewalk, and mow people down.  Shield regen with each death.  I have the Mercenary Mod that gives me +2 shield regen ability (Girl Power).

It's fantastic.  My Phase Blast all makes people explode.

This will be my final build.
http://downloads.2kgames.com/borderlands/website/skilltree/lilith/#21500552550000005050350

[Bunk]

Yea... this game is fun. I had to downgrade my nvidia drivers, but now it runs as smooth as could be. Joined in to a multi with two guys from work last night and went from 8 to 13 in one session. No issues at all joining multiplayer.

[Sky]

Lamont is set up like this: http://www.borderlandsthegame.com/skilltree/roland/#01500400000000000000000

I'll probably respec at some point to favor the turret, but at 100 seconds, the refresh is a bit too long for regular use. I usually just set it up for boss battles or in the middle of a bandit camp every now and again. So for now I'm hitting the infantry tree and pushing weapon damage, favoring the combat rifles.

[Murgos]

With the right skills you can get the turret cool down down to half a minute or so, probably less with mods.  I use the turret but I don't like relying on it that much, I don't want the game to devolve into, "Where do I place the turret for maximum effect while I hide?"

Anyway the base damage on the turret levels with you so it's pretty much always effective right out of the box for a bit of extra 'oomph'.

[Furiously]

Did some mp with wayabvpar last night then drove around and went into old haven. I really really had a blast in there. Very fun zone. One hidden quest in there too.

[Demonix]

the mod "I like it!' is on a sniper rifle because of the scene in Robocop when one of the baddies picks up what is basically a cyberpunk version of a 50 cal sniper rifle.

For the soldier, I'm liking the skill that reduces your cooldown by 1-5 seconds for every enemy you kill, but the turret really needs to have a 360 degree fire zone.

There is no way this game was designed with a PC in mind, that is just a blatant marketing lie.  Still, the game is pretty fun, but with the fucked multiplayer I just cant see it really having legs.  I'll probably play thru it once or twice and shelve it.