PS3

[Azazel]

This wasn't just a desync, though.  The four LEDs started a fast-flash and I could not turn it off; this was faster than the flash it does when connecting to the PS3.  I plugged it in and it kept doing it.  Activating another controller worked fine, so I used that one to shut down the system.  New problem, I think.

So does the controller work again now with PS3 games?

[Yegolev]

This wasn't just a desync, though.  The four LEDs started a fast-flash and I could not turn it off; this was faster than the flash it does when connecting to the PS3.  I plugged it in and it kept doing it.  Activating another controller worked fine, so I used that one to shut down the system.  New problem, I think.

So does the controller work again now with PS3 games?

Works fine, although I have not used that particular one other than to test it just now.  It is one of my Sixaxises, not the Dualshock3.

I don't recall having a desync or other controller problem in a PS3 game, but at launch I mostly played PS2 games.  The emulator has always been a bit behind the curve, in my opinion.

[stray]

I realized I had already patched to this version awhile back.. So.. umm, no hiccups with my 60gig either.

[fuser]

GT5 is now delayed with no new timetable

[Salamok]

GT5 is now delayed with no new timetable

I was interested until I read a review stating that the ai runs the same race every time and doesn't follow collision detection rules with other cars controlled by the ai.  Of course I haven't gone so far as to ask the good people here if any of that is true.

edit: on a semi related note is there a decent ps3 racing game with split screen view so I can race my wife?

[stray]

Not sure what kind of racing you have in mind, but Pacific Rift can split up to 4



I'm sure GT will be worth the wait.. There are a lot of good titles out there though. Not just Forza. I never thought I'd say this, but even Codemasters is becoming a worthy competitor to Polyphony (Grid and Dirt.. although they could be better).

[edit] Not entirely true.. as those games will probably never have as many cars (and they're not straight sims). There is good shit out there to hold you off tho

[fuser]

You can get fl0w for free today on the PSN store.

Just logon and download fl0w via games -> ps3 games -> d-g -> and you should see fl0w full game for free.

[ffc]

You can get fl0w for free today on the PSN store.

Just logon and download fl0w via games -> ps3 games -> d-g -> and you should see fl0w full game for free.

Nice, I forgot to check it out after I caught the reference to it in Flower.

[BitWarrior]

Quick question since I don't want to necro the Lair thread from 2008 - would Lair be a good game now that its controls are finally sane? (ie: not six-axis based)

[JWIV]

You can get fl0w for free today on the PSN store.

Just logon and download fl0w via games -> ps3 games -> d-g -> and you should see fl0w full game for free.

Nice, I forgot to check it out after I caught the reference to it in Flower.

Managed to pick it up the other day.  You can definitely feel the control scheme similarities to Flower.  Easily worth the low low price of FREE.

[stray]

Hustle Kings is pretty good, well worth the $10 (if you like Pool at least).

Blade Kitten looks like a decent PSN title, coming soon.

[Merusk]

So what's the deal with these lately?  You can't find them online or in stores right now, are they selling out for a new bundle to be released, under-manufacturing, or are they really 'flying off the shelves' 3years later?   Sony's exec warned about 'shortages' back in September, but I can't imagine they're still having them without fueling it themselves.

I ask because I was going to buy one now that the taxes are done, but you can't find the damn things.  I might just go ahead and get the Elite instead, as there's very few 'want to play' exclusives I'd miss out on.

[BitWarrior]

I ask because I was going to buy one now that the taxes are done...

I believe you just answered your own question.

[stu]

Fuck! I have to do my taxes.

[schild]

So what's the deal with these lately?  You can't find them online or in stores right now, are they selling out for a new bundle to be released, under-manufacturing, or are they really 'flying off the shelves' 3years later?   Sony's exec warned about 'shortages' back in September, but I can't imagine they're still having them without fueling it themselves.

I can find them almost everywhere. Lots of people are buying slims though.

I might just go ahead and get the Elite instead

That would be stupid, because...

as there's very few 'want to play' exclusives I'd miss out on.

...this is wrong. SCEA is the only company of the two with any sizable number of exclusives unless you count Halo, which is largely irrelevant now. Demon's Souls, Gran Turismo, Last Guardian, Heavy Rain, Uncharted, MAG, Killzone 2, Little Big Planet, Mod Nation Racers, WipeOut, Twisted Metal, Echo Chrome, Disgaea, Folklore, God of War, Hot Shots series, Heavenly Sword, 3D Dot Heroes etc, etc, etc, etc. Microsoft's list is like Fable, Halo, Forza. And uhhhhhh. I don't know. Shadow Complex.

You know, just go here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_PlayStation_3_games and sort by exclusivity.

[stray]

While I've grown to like my 360, some of the better exclusives on it are not exclusives anymore now (ME, Bioshock, Gears, etc). It's especially useful for me since I don't have a good gaming PC.. The current 360 exclusives that are left are pretty cool (Dead Rising, Vesparia, Ace Combat, Forza), but I think Sony has offered the more unique experiences, and has a higher quantity now. I think the only Sony exclusives that I didn't care for was Lair and Infamous (and Infamous isn't necessarily bad.. I just got motion sickness from it hehe).

[Azazel]

When did Gears of War stop being a MS exclusive? I never heard about anything like that. Or are you counting the PC?
Maybe you are, since you also mention Mass Effect. Bioshock is the only one of the three that's now on PS3.

Despite Schild's list being half-filled with shit titles, I'd have to agree that the PS3 has more exclusives these days that *I* would like to play, but it really depends on how many mean anything to *you*.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:PlayStation_3-only_games
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Xbox_360_games

[Trippy]

Despite Schild's list being half-filled with shit titles

[Velorath]

Despite Schild's list being half-filled with shit titles

He's got somewhat of a point.  Disgaea, Folklore, Heavenly Sword, MAG, and Hot Shots, are about as well regarded as 360 exclusives Lost Odyssey, Blue Dragon, Banjo Kazooie, or the Viva Pinata games.  I don't think any of them really stand up as reasons to pick one system over the other.

I do think the PS3 still has a better lineup, especially for people who have a decent PC (for those that don't, Mass Effect would almost balance it out in my opinion and possibly Splinter Cell Conviction), but the 360 does still have some potentially good exclusives coming out this year like Crackdown 2 and Alan Wake (which is no longer getting a PC release).

[stray]

When did Gears of War stop being a MS exclusive? I never heard about anything like that. Or are you counting the PC?
Maybe you are, since you also mention Mass Effect. Bioshock is the only one of the three that's now on PS3.

Despite Schild's list being half-filled with shit titles, I'd have to agree that the PS3 has more exclusives these days that *I* would like to play, but it really depends on how many mean anything to *you*.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:PlayStation_3-only_games
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Xbox_360_games

No, I meant Gears is a PC title too. Sorry if I confused you. For me, an Xbox is pretty useful since..... well, look at the grief title, I've got a Mac (but then, I think Gears may even be on the Mac??). Anyways, if you have a gaming PC, you can get a taste of some of better 360 titles, I guess. That's all I'm saying.

--

Folklore and Heavenly Sword are pretty underrated imo. But then, I've not played Blue Dragon and Lost Odyssey yet (to name a few of the 360 titles mentioned above). I heard LO was decent...

Personally, PERSONALLY, nothing has topped MGS4 and Valkyria Chronicles. I like the PS3 for those alone.  

[Merusk]

You know, just go here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_PlayStation_3_games and sort by exclusivity.

I did. 

Yeah, no 120 slims and none of the next tier up, either. Best Buy, Target, Wal*Mart, even fucking Meijer had nothing in stock.  Very fucking weird.

Out of that List, I recall folks  here Panning Heavenly Sword for some reason, and God of War is the only one I really care about missing.  The console is more for the kids, as I'm getting too old and involved in my career to have much time for games anymore.  For that reason the 360 makes more sense since then they could play with their cousins on Live.  Meh.

[stray]

If it's for kids, I guess you could swing either way with one.

Heavenly Sword is a merely a victim of being an early release (same with Folklore). They were not omfgawesome titles at a time that people were wanting one, but they are good games in their own right.

[Merusk]

Bought a factory refub'd 40g today for $60 less than the 120gb slim. Plus it's got the more attractive case, so win IMO.   Picked up Spyro, Ratchet & Clank, Heavenly Sword (It was $20, what the hell, eh) and Vylkyria Chronicles.  VC was also only $20, I thought that it'd be more considering the raves y'all had for it. 

The story I heard re: shortages is that 1) Japanese tax season just happened and so they were holding back exports they'd have to have paid tax on while paying last years taxes and 2) Chinese new year happened after that, meaning factories were shut down for a week or better so there's a shortage.

Not sure I buy either, but it's at least plausible.  Oh, best buy online is also sold out, as is Amazon (Unless you use one of their associated resellers who are price gouging atm.)

[stray]

VC is cheap because it too was underrated.

Since you went PS3 in the end, check out Little Big Planet after your kids exhaust Spyro.

[Rasix]

VC was also only $20, I thought that it'd be more considering the raves y'all had for it.  

Quality doesn't always translate into sales. Next to MGS4 and the Uncharted series, it might be the best game on the system.

[Velorath]

VC is cheap because it too was underrated.

It got pretty high ratings in most reviews.  It's just a niche game.

[Azazel]

No, I meant Gears is a PC title too. Sorry if I confused you. For me, an Xbox is pretty useful since..... well, look at the grief title, I've got a Mac (but then, I think Gears may even be on the Mac??). Anyways, if you have a gaming PC, you can get a taste of some of better 360 titles, I guess. That's all I'm saying.

No problem, I get you.

Personally, PERSONALLY, nothing has topped MGS4 and Valkyria Chronicles. I like the PS3 for those alone.  

Again, no problem. In fact, you make my point there. It all depends on which (if any) of either console's exclusives mean shit to each individual. For me, MGS and Halo, Forza and GT (if it ever comes out) are all as meaningless as each other, despite being amongst each console's "PHWOAR" exclusives.

FWIW, I have no problems with Heavenly Sword. I own it, and my wife also enjoys it. Take it for what it is - a simple but fun choppy-chop game that is now sold cheaply since it was a launch title.

[Rasix]

I heard LO was decent...

It's not.

[schild]

LO was terribly gorgeous and not "bad" per se, but it certainly wasn't "good." Sakaguchi will get it right... eventually.

[Rasix]

It had its moments until I got tired of those moments. It could have been a very good game with better pacing (frequent 30-60+ minute stretches of no-save gameplay is not acceptable), less of an overly sappy plot, and a more engaging/ess "retro for retro's sake" feel to the combat. 

Still, it has one of the most geniune gut wrenching moments I've seen in a game and an interesting take on life as an immortal. I'd rebuy it on the cheap and finish it.. if I was ever left bed ridden and jobless for around 6 months.

[stray]

Hmm, I'll keep it in mind until it's cheaper too.

I just bought Blue Dragon though. Under $10, so whatever. 

Also found Earth Defense Force under $10. 

But it's time to play Heavy Rain for now. 

[Lounge]

LO was terribly gorgeous and not "bad" per se, but it certainly wasn't "good." Sakaguchi will get it right... eventually.

LO looked great, but the voice acting on all but one character was so terrible.  The gameplay itself was mediocre at best.

[NiX]

Just noticed that no Canadian website lists VC. I don't know if they're spelling it differently, but even searching each section by page comes up with nothing. The fuck.

[fuser]

Just noticed that no Canadian website lists VC. I don't know if they're spelling it differently, but even searching each section by page comes up with nothing. The fuck.

It's just hard to fine. I have seen it once in store best buy but never again.

Amazon.ca

[Merusk]

I picked it up at a Gamestop.

A few hours in and I can see why it wasn't widely accepted.  There's a few things that are driving me fucking batty about it, but it's a pretty fun game regardless of those flaws.  Hate the way the storyline is broken up into 8 cut scenes a 'chapter' however... just show me it all at fucking once, thanks.