PS3

[fuser]

I'm not even going to mention the rage of a decent headset price.

$5-10 more for the remote control, it goes on and on...

[ffc]

I'm not even going to mention the rage of a decent headset price.

The PS3 pairs with any bluetooth headset right?  I've tried several different headsets for my 360 and the best I found was my $1 cellphone headset.  Which sucks.

Also, has anyone tried this thing with the PS3?



I'd like to know if there is lag and whether aiming feels mushy in-game.  The revision released this year will be at E3 so I can imaginary test it out when I imaginary attend.

[fuser]

A friend swears by his, Schild was suppose to get one for review.. what happened with that?

[schild]

A friend swears by his, Schild was suppose to get one for review.. what happened with that?

They started releasing info about the new one.

[MisterNoisy]

It's like everyone forgets how your nickled and dimed with the Xbox to even get a platform close to the PS3.

PS3 80Gb MGS Bundle $480 (I think, I had a crap load of giftgards etc but it's a lot less today)

Xbox 360 Pro 60Gb $300 (Kung fu Panada/Lego Indy to get a jasper)
Wireless adapter $90
Play and charge $30
Live! Gold $60

Not really - MS just offers an 'a la carte' approach versus Sony's 'everything in one box' arrangement.


360 = $200-300
Wireless adapter - I've got mine wired to my router right next to my PS3 and other consoles.  Comically, I wish my Wii had an ethernet port out of the box.  Wireless for something that will never get moved once connected is hardly a requirement.
Play and charge - if you buy this, you fail.  You can get 8 2500 MAh rechargeable AA batteries and a charger for $20, and never have to tether yourself to your console or leave it on all night just to charge your controller because the USB ports aren't powered unless the console is on.
Gold - $30 for 13 months.  If you're paying more for it, you should visit Amazon on occasion.

For $250, you can be playing everything but the Sony exclusives.
Sony needs to drop the price, but seeing as they're still losing ~$40 on each PS3, I'm not sure if they can.

[Hayduke]

I think being able to throw any 2.5" SATA drive in a PS3 merits consideration as well.

[Azazel]

This part stood out to me.  All the 360 has to really warrant purchasing it over any other console is shooters, so I found it odd when people say this, even factoring in the multiplatform.  Not that I'm disagreeing about the mouse+keyboard bit...

I bought my 360 about 18 months ago, not last week. The price difference, even then between ps3 and 360 was significant (it's even bigger now). Software was much more heavily slanted towards 360 in quality at the time. Also, Dead Rising and ZOMBIES! Though after playing it I found the same flaws with it that Big Gulp has.

They both have positives and negatives as far as the accessories go, as well. Though wireless is a non-issue for me (I also have a Wii that I'll never hook up to the net because fuck buying a fucking RJ-45 plug for $80) I like how the PS3 can have any notebook HDD slotted in for a fraction of the cost of the 360's overpriced undersized HDDs. And so on in both directions.

[Xanthippe]

We just got a PS3 a few weeks ago.

My son tells me that we absolutely cannot leave a disc in it when we power it down or else SOMETHING REALLY AWFUL WILL HAPPEN NO REALLY.  I'm skeptical. 

What gives?  Anyone know?

Btw, wow am I impressed.  Ratchet & Clank is the favorite of the few games we have.  Crystal clear.

[Rasix]

We just got a PS3 a few weeks ago.

My son tells me that we absolutely cannot leave a disc in it when we power it down or else SOMETHING REALLY AWFUL WILL HAPPEN NO REALLY.  I'm skeptical. 

What gives?  Anyone know?

I've left a disc in mine when powered down since I've had it.  I'm afraid to do the same with my 360.

[Quinton]

We just got a PS3 a few weeks ago.

My son tells me that we absolutely cannot leave a disc in it when we power it down or else SOMETHING REALLY AWFUL WILL HAPPEN NO REALLY.  I'm skeptical. 

What gives?  Anyone know?

Weird.  Never heard of this.  I bought my PS3 when the console launched in the US, and I believe it's almost always had a disc in it (either the last game I've been playing or movie I watched) since then, with no horrible side-effects that I'm aware of.

[Trippy]

We just got a PS3 a few weeks ago.

My son tells me that we absolutely cannot leave a disc in it when we power it down or else SOMETHING REALLY AWFUL WILL HAPPEN NO REALLY.  I'm skeptical. 

What gives?  Anyone know?

Btw, wow am I impressed.  Ratchet & Clank is the favorite of the few games we have.  Crystal clear.

Is he worried that the disc is going to get damaged if he leaves it in? If so then he may have bought into the FUD that was going around during the Blu-Ray vs. HD-DVD war days that Blu-Ray discs are easily damaged because the layer of plastic that sits between the "data material" and the outside world is thinner than it on an HD-DVD or a DVD disc. To compensate for this Blu-Ray discs have an "anti-scratch" coating (e.g. TDK's Durabis) to protect that side.

[Mazakiel]

I've left discs in my PS3 since day one.  BRD, DVD, games....not a single problem ever. 

[Azazel]

Never had an issue with discs left in my 360, either.

[rattran]

I even drove my ps3 across the country with a disc in it (forgot about a bluray) with no ill effects. I think it's had a disc in it almost the entire time I've owned it.

And I bought the ps3 without wireless, as there's networking where it goes, and being able to simply pull out the 20gig drive and slot in a 320gig with no hassles was a joy after upgrading an xbox drive.

[Xanthippe]

Thanks!  It sounded dumb to me - I didn't think that it could be right.

[Rasix]

Never had an issue with discs left in my 360, either.

I'm sure nothing would come of me leaving discs in it. I'm just paranoid that I'm going to anger the Gods and red-ring the sucker.

[Azazel]

Oh, psaw. That just happens naturally. 

[funcro]

So no price cut announced at E3.  I still want to play Demon's Souls when the Atlus US release is available.  Buy now with the Dell 15% off + free shipping coupon or continue holding for a price cut?

[schild]

I say wait for a slim, but that's logic talking (yes, I still think it's coming this year)

I always buy something when I can afford it.

[Tige]

So no price cut announced at E3.  I still want to play Demon's Souls when the Atlus US release is available.  Buy now with the Dell 15% off + free shipping coupon or continue holding for a price cut?

Chances are you'll piss away the difference 8 times over by the time the price actually drops or if/when there will be a slim.  Buy now if you can,  import DS and your gaming world will be complete.

[Hawkbit]

Dell has had PS3 offers quite a few times over the past three months.  Don't make it seem like it's now or never. 

Damn I really want one.  There's a pretty fair number of games I'd like to see now.

[Oz]

do what i did.  start saving up little bits of cash.  $20 here, $5 there, maybe an occasional $50, by the time you have actual money saved up maybe the slim will be here or maybe a cheaper PS3 in general.

[Velorath]

So no price cut announced at E3.  I still want to play Demon's Souls when the Atlus US release is available.  Buy now with the Dell 15% off + free shipping coupon or continue holding for a price cut?

You could always keep an eye on ebay.  Got my PS3 there for $250 in perfect condition.  I'd recommend checking the Buy it Now listings every so often (regular auctions always seem to end up fairly close to retail price, whereas with Buy it Now you can sometimes catch someone who doesn't know any better putting one up pretty cheap).  If you find something for a good price, make sure the seller has a good feedback rating, read through the description a couple times to make sure you know what you're getting, and don't hesitate to ask the seller questions.

Making a major purchase over ebay can be a bit scary for some people, but as long as you take all the proper steps, you should be ok.

[Segoris]

So no price cut announced at E3.  I still want to play Demon's Souls when the Atlus US release is available.  Buy now with the Dell 15% off + free shipping coupon or continue holding for a price cut?

You could always keep an eye on ebay.  Got my PS3 there for $250 in perfect condition.  I'd recommend checking the Buy it Now listings every so often (regular auctions always seem to end up fairly close to retail price, whereas with Buy it Now you can sometimes catch someone who doesn't know any better putting one up pretty cheap).  If you find something for a good price, make sure the seller has a good feedback rating, read through the description a couple times to make sure you know what you're getting, and don't hesitate to ask the seller questions.

Making a major purchase over ebay can be a bit scary for some people, but as long as you take all the proper steps, you should be ok.

I'm not a fan of eBay, and greatly prefer not owning preowned things, but for picking up a ps3 and some games I ended up going this route which resulted in purchasing a 60gb version ($260 after shipping). I've seen ~10 of the 60gb in the last two weeks go for $250-300 and some had games, controllers, or HDMI cables with them. I was going to pick up a new retail one a while back but then figured I'd just get a 60gb one and get a 2yr SquareTrade warranty for $50 I think it was, and in the worst case scenario I end up with a brand new ps3 for a cheaper price.

Sure I'd prefer a slim body type, but considering what I got at the prices I did ($130 for Demon Souls, SF4 + Akuma Controller, Uncharted, and Valk Chronicles) in close to new or brand new I'm very happy with the purchases off ebay. But the most important thing, to agree with Velo, watch the feedback ratings, ask questions, and be patient.

[AutomaticZen]

So no price cut announced at E3.  I still want to play Demon's Souls when the Atlus US release is available.  Buy now with the Dell 15% off + free shipping coupon or continue holding for a price cut?

You could always keep an eye on ebay.  Got my PS3 there for $250 in perfect condition.  I'd recommend checking the Buy it Now listings every so often (regular auctions always seem to end up fairly close to retail price, whereas with Buy it Now you can sometimes catch someone who doesn't know any better putting one up pretty cheap).  If you find something for a good price, make sure the seller has a good feedback rating, read through the description a couple times to make sure you know what you're getting, and don't hesitate to ask the seller questions.

Making a major purchase over ebay can be a bit scary for some people, but as long as you take all the proper steps, you should be ok.

I'm not a fan of eBay, and greatly prefer not owning preowned things, but for picking up a ps3 and some games I ended up going this route which resulted in purchasing a 60gb version ($260 after shipping). I've seen ~10 of the 60gb in the last two weeks go for $250-300 and some had games, controllers, or HDMI cables with them. I was going to pick up a new retail one a while back but then figured I'd just get a 60gb one and get a 2yr SquareTrade warranty for $50 I think it was, and in the worst case scenario I end up with a brand new ps3 for a cheaper price.

Sure I'd prefer a slim body type, but considering what I got at the prices I did ($130 for Demon Souls, SF4 + Akuma Controller, Uncharted, and Valk Chronicles) in close to new or brand new I'm very happy with the purchases off ebay. But the most important thing, to agree with Velo, watch the feedback ratings, ask questions, and be patient.

Just won an 80GB PS3 with BC off Ebay for $260.  Now to hope the rest goes right.

[schild]

80GB PS3 is software back compat. There's a list somewhere with issues.

[SnakeCharmer]

Yay for a cool wife! 

Got a PS3 tonight (and a Samsung 32" 1080p LCD TV).  Unfortunately, not the one I was telling you about, schild.  Already sold; wasn't paying attention to the post date for the ad on craigslist.  But nevertheless, stoked.  Anyway, came with Uncharted, bought Infamous and MGS4 to go along with it.  They (best buy) didn't have Demon Souls. 

Fuckers.

Got it home.  Unpacked everything.  Forgot an HDMI cable.  Doh.  And the USB wired controller is going to have to go  How long does it take the wireless controller to charge, and does it charge with the system off?

This question probably belongs in the Quick Tech Question thread, but can two wireless devices operate off the same Linksys WRT54GS router?  I've got it set to WPA2whatever security thing for wireless devices.  When I went to enter in the WPA Shared Key on the PS3 network set up, it promptly booted my wife offline on her laptop, telling her another device with the same IP has logged on (or something similar).  So, I'm guessing the answer is "no"? 

[fuser]

80GB PS3 is software back compat. There's a list somewhere with issues.

Heres hoping its an HE, oh and the search linky schild's talking about.

Uncharted, bought Infamous and MGS4 to go along with it.  They (best buy) didn't have Demon Souls. 

Demon Souls is only an import at the moment, NA release is coming up sometime.

And the USB wired controller is going to have to go.

It's only needed for charging ;)

This question probably belongs in the Quick Tech Question thread, but can two wireless devices operate off the same Linksys WRT54GS router?  I've got it set to WPA2whatever security thing for wireless devices.  When I went to enter in the WPA Shared Key on the PS3 network set up, it promptly booted my wife offline on her laptop, telling her another device with the same IP has logged on (or something similar).  So, I'm guessing the answer is "no"? 

Yes its no problem to operate two or more devices off of the wireless access point. Did you copy the same IP as your wifes? If so just increment the IP or use DHCP on the router to handling passing IP's out by itself.

[SnakeCharmer]

Yes its no problem to operate two or more devices off of the wireless access point. Did you copy the same IP as your wifes? If so just increment the IP or use DHCP on the router to handling passing IP's out by itself.

Thanks for the other info.  Now, I'm going to be real honest here.  I have NO idea what you just said.  So, I'm going to answer yes to 'copy the same IP', and 'saywhodawhat?' to the rest.

[fuser]

nothing really

[AutomaticZen]

80GB PS3 is software back compat. There's a list somewhere with issues.

Yeah, I know.  Figured it wasn't a big deal, as I recently bought a used PS2 (we use my roommates as mine is a first gen and is quite temperamental) for the girlfriend to use at school, and she'll be completely done soon.

Probably will pick up Uncharted and Disgaea 3 as a kick off, and BlazBlue and KOF next month will now be purchased on this instead of 360.

[Koyasha]

80GB PS3 is software back compat. There's a list somewhere with issues.

According to Wikipedia (assuming that chart is correct) the 80GB model in production now has no backwards compatiblity whatsoever.  Only the older 80GB model that is now no longer in production has the software compatibility.

[schild]

80GB PS3 is software back compat. There's a list somewhere with issues.

According to Wikipedia (assuming that chart is correct) the 80GB model in production now has no backwards compatiblity whatsoever.  Only the older 80GB model that is now no longer in production has the software compatibility.

Correct.

[MisterNoisy]

How long does it take the wireless controller to charge, and does it charge with the system off?

A few hours to charge to 100%, and the PS3's USB ports are not powered when the system is off.  Old Motorola cellphone chargers (Mini-USB) work great, though.

As for backcompat, the easiest way to check is to count the USB ports on the front of your PS3.  If there's 4, you have software BC.  If there's only 2, you don't.

[Ard]

80GB PS3 is software back compat. There's a list somewhere with issues.

You can check for specific games here:
http://www.us.playstation.com/Support/CompatibleStatus