PS3

[Azazel]

Could be interesting when the cutthroat Christmas bundles and sales start up. No need to rush into the initial batch.

You only say that because you're in Australia.

Nah, I have a 360 remember, and with all but a few PS3 exclusives that I'm interested in being readily available to me already..  

Velorath - I'm sure if there's a local shortage here, they can just reroute some PS3s from Nigeria or Botswana. Or I'll wait till next christmas.

[Ghambit]

Any chance the original 80GB PS3 will be bundled (perhaps with Uncharted) for $300 somewhere?
I like the slim, but have no real need for 120GB and no bundle.  

And anyone here besides me who actually likes the styling on the old version better?

edit: christ, BB is already pretty much sold out

[schild]

$299 was the magic price point Sony needed. It has been pretty obvious for a long time now they needed to get there, and well, they did. And that's that.

I'm really not sure what Microsoft's next move is as they don't have shit for exclusives coming out.

Nintendo will just drop their price at TGS in response most likely. Or Space World. Or whatever the hell their event is.

[stray]

Any chance the original 80GB PS3 will be bundled (perhaps with Uncharted) for $300 somewhere?
I like the slim, but have no real need for 120GB and no bundle.  

And anyone here besides me who actually likes the styling on the old version better?

edit: christ, BB is already pretty much sold out

Yeah, I like the styling of the old ones, but smaller is definitely better. The network name for my PS3 has been Monolith from Day 1.  

That said, it's still the best PS3 (the 60 gig/BC). One of the few times I've splurged for gaming hardware, and not regretting it.

[Velorath]

$299 was the magic price point Sony needed. It has been pretty obvious for a long time now they needed to get there, and well, they did. And that's that.

I'm really not sure what Microsoft's next move is as they don't have shit for exclusives coming out.

Nintendo will just drop their price at TGS in response most likely. Or Space World. Or whatever the hell their event is.

MS's next move will likely be the Natal bundle sometime next year.

[schild]

$299 was the magic price point Sony needed. It has been pretty obvious for a long time now they needed to get there, and well, they did. And that's that.

I'm really not sure what Microsoft's next move is as they don't have shit for exclusives coming out.

Nintendo will just drop their price at TGS in response most likely. Or Space World. Or whatever the hell their event is.

MS's next move will likely be the Natal bundle sometime next year.

I'm not entirely sure that's enough.

The woman without child and pedophile install base simply isn't high enough.  

Edit: Also, by then GT5, Uncharted 2, and FFXIV will be out. Not to mention that FFXIII is apparently coming out on the PS3 before the 360 version now.

[Velorath]

Price, marketing, and media backing so far have been the biggest factors in each consoles' success so far.  Games, not so much.

[Tannhauser]

$299 was the magic price point Sony needed. It has been pretty obvious for a long time now they needed to get there, and well, they did. And that's that.

I'm really not sure what Microsoft's next move is as they don't have shit for exclusives coming out.

Nintendo will just drop their price at TGS in response most likely. Or Space World. Or whatever the hell their event is.

MS's next move will likely be the Natal bundle sometime next year.

I'm not entirely sure that's enough.



The woman without child and pedophile install base simply isn't high enough.  

Edit: Also, by then GT5, Uncharted 2, and FFXIV will be out. Not to mention that FFXIII is apparently coming out on the PS3 before the 360 version now.

Well, the 360 has Halo ODST and Mass Effect 2 coming out.  And those are exclusive to the 360.  So I doubt they are terrified of the Slim.  $299, like you said, has been obviously needed.  With it's features, that should be the tipping point to get cheap ass people like me to fork over. 

Sony has rocketed out of the gate, but the 360 and Wii are halfway around the track.

[Velorath]

I don't know that Halo ODST and Mass Effect 2 will attract new customers to the 360 though.  Chances are if you're interested in those games you already got a 360 for Halo 3 and ME1.  Splinter Cell: Conviction might bring in some people though, and maybe Alan Wake if they market it well.

[Yegolev]

I agree with Velorath.  Who doesn't already have a 360 that might want one?  I'd wager the same people who would buy used copies of Halo and Gears of War to go with it.  I'm not counting the people who are buying replacement 360s.

[stray]

I've still not bought a 360.. I wouldn't mind having one, but other shit comes up, and it's not really important.

This sounds exactly like the same thing I did last time around. I bought the Xbox when it was really on the cheap, and just used it for a couple of Bioware RPG's. 

[Ghambit]

The 360 needs to embrace itself as a creation machine and let the PS3 be for raw exclusive entertainment. 
As it's looking now, that's where the companies seem to be steering themselves.
Problem is, one market is much larger than the other.   

Aaaaaand, BB just took down their slim pre-orders and pretty much their entire stock is gone.  Time to go retail hunting.
My HDTV arrives on Monday, must has PS3.

[Hoax]

And anyone here besides me who actually likes the styling on the old version better?

edit: christ, BB is already pretty much sold out

Yeah, I like the styling of the old ones, but smaller is definitely better. The network name for my PS3 has been Monolith from Day 1.  

That said, it's still the best PS3 (the 60 gig/BC). One of the few times I've splurged for gaming hardware, and not regretting it.

You guys are crazy, the ps3 is probably the ugliest thing I've ever spent over $100 on.  It looks like a squat fugly mass of cheap black plastic that is always dusty looking.  I don't regret the purchase, but I do wish I had more time and money for bluray discs, god BR is fantastic looking.

[schild]

You guys are crazy, the ps3 is probably the ugliest thing I've ever spent over $100.

I'd agree if Microsoft hadn't started making consoles.

[Hindenburg]

You're gonna argue which console is uglier? Cue special olympics pic.

[Hoax]

We're not, because I said its the ugliest thing I ever spent over $100 on, I wouldn't ever buy a Microsoft console even if it was the last console on earth.

[schild]

You're gonna argue which console is uglier? Cue special olympics pic.

Considering most of them tend to be out in a living room where everyone can see it, yea, I like my consoles to be aesthetically pleasing. The PS3 at least blends in nice with home theater equipment and doesn't look out of place. The 360 looks like a tumor in a wooden or black entertainment center.

[Yegolev]

I named mine Knight Rider.

[Ghambit]

The 360 was never really designed as a home theatre piece.  Was always just a raw-gaming machine (big reason why many treat em like crap and carry them in gaming backpacks).  And anything "gamerish" is usually quite ugly.  I like the old PS3 design because the buttons are minimal and the gloss finish matches high-end HDTVs.  That matte finish on the slim to me would stick out a lot more on a TV stand.

[schild]

The 360 was never really designed as a home theatre piece.  Was always just a raw-gaming maching

This is bullshit. They had videos, exclusively got Netflix, tv shows, and all sorts of other non-gaming shit before Sony. Not to mention they tried to downplay Blu-Ray, and tack on a nasty looking HD-DVD player. Add to that the insult of their HDD pricing and their release of a black one with a much larger hard disc - called ELITE, no less (still surprised Pioneer wasn't all up on their ass) - and you've got something more than a "raw-gaming machine." Which it never was, since when you played games it was doomed to break.

[Yegolev]

I'm actually having a hard time finding my games under all the advertisements and videos and shit, so, uh... what schild said.

[Merusk]

Who doesn't already have a 360 that might want one? 

Me, but the continued hardware failure rate means I'll probably never buy one, even though I'd have liked to.  If MS had fixed that, I'd have bought one long ago and not looked twice at the PS3. Now that Sony has hit my $ threshold, I'll give them my cash and ignore the 360.

[Ard]

I'm actually having a hard time finding my games under all the advertisements and videos and shit, so, uh... what schild said.

This is why my Xbox almost never gets turned on anymore, and why I for the most part don't buy games for it.  I hate the NXE.  I liked the old UI.  It was functional albeit a bit ugly.  The fact that loading the game in the tray isn't the first option that pops up now when the system loads is beyond retarded (assuming you don't have autoload turned on, which I don't, because it mostly gets used for the Arcade games).

[Azazel]

The 360 needs to embrace itself as a creation machine and let the PS3 be for raw exclusive entertainment. 
As it's looking now, that's where the companies seem to be steering themselves.
Problem is, one market is much larger than the other.   

Nah, The 360 has the gamer lead at the moment (new PS3 price point will lessen that) so they were going after the left-field-casual demographic with project  and stupid Molyneaux presentations. Really though, it's the 3rd parties who make all the best stuff (IMO) so it doesn't matter what they (or Sony) try to embrace at this point.

As for ugly consoles, the 360 is okay looking. You should be thinking about the US SNES, or the ugliest of them all, the Original XBox. You know, shaped like an X. With a circle of stupid in the middle of the top of the casing. Still makes for a great media centre, though.

[Yegolev]

Who doesn't already have a 360 that might want one? 

Me, but the continued hardware failure rate means I'll probably never buy one, even though I'd have liked to.  If MS had fixed that, I'd have bought one long ago and not looked twice at the PS3. Now that Sony has hit my $ threshold, I'll give them my cash and ignore the 360.

You aptly point out that you are someone who might not want one.

Ard.  Ard.  Hey, Ard.  Last Remnant.

[Ard]

I've been playing it.  But it's the only thing my Xbox has been turned on for in like the last six months since I finished Tales of Vesperia, and I'm still thinking I should have just paid full price for the PC version.

[Yegolev]

I KNOW BECUZ DATS WAT IVE BEEN DOIN

[Ard]

THIS THREAD R4 PS3, GTFO 

edit:  this applies to both of me, if that wasn't obvious, or you, or... whatever, I'm so confused

[stray]

I don't mean to say the PS3 is some hallmark of design, but I prefer the piano black to the duller black on the slim. I've got Samsung equipment to match it, I guess. 

Generally speaking, I don't think there's actually been a cool looking console since the PS1 :P

[Yegolev]

I don't even think the PS1 looked good.  But who cares?  Let's face it, no game console looks so good that it won't be a cockblock.  "Yea, baby, this is my pad..."  "Like, is that a GameCube?  Gross.  I'm outie!  Come on, girls."

[stray]

Oh, I'm quite embarrassed that I have a PS3. Good thing no one really knows how much it cost.

[schild]

Oh, I'm quite embarrassed that I have a PS3. Good thing no one really knows how much it cost.

What a pussy, I'm not embarrassed and I have two. Of course, I refuse to splitscreen game, so it makes some back-asswards sense to have two. Also, because I got the second one for $214 and it's a 60GB BC.

[Fabricated]

I don't get why Miicrosoft hasn't done a slim or at least a redesign of the console since the pieces of shit I guess have a failure rate of 50% or thereabouts.

That's fucking class action lawsuit material, but I think the same study that reported that said that only like 4% or so of 360 owners wouldn't buy another one due to the poor build quality. They've got some real retards on the hook.

[Hawkbit]

I think I've put more hours on my 2 month old PS3 than I have on my 2 year old Wii.  Unless Sony really screws things up in the next decade or two, I'm not sure I'll buy another company's console ever.  Unless they go super cheap, like buying a 360 at $100 or something.  The only issue there is that it's not just $100.  Need cables, extra controllers, Live access, etc.

[CaptainNapkin]

Too much hype a few months ago over Demon's Souls so at this price I broke down and pre-ordered a slim. Just got a shipping update on it - Delivery estimate: August 27, 2009. Didn't expect it that fast, I haven't even ordered a copy of DS yet. Time to search threads to see what else I need to pick up.