Demon's Souls Coming to America.

[Dtrain]

Clever - the game actually uses the same tactic on you in 4-2. Most likely what happened is he was stacking +magic dmg items and your backstab kicked him into hyper mode with a clever rat's ring and maybe morion blade. That's a pretty nasty situation.

If you're looking to be viable in PVP, then you need a very narrow and focused build. 30-40 in endurance. Up to 50 in health. The rest into the stat(s) that increase your damage. Putting some points here and there to cover weaknesses is not the best strategy - in fact, it's the worst way to proceed. I'd recommend a dark silver shield if you're constantly eating enemy spells.

That having been said, if you're just looking to play the game, with the exception of a few levels, notably 3-X, 4-1 and 4-2, you will not encounter much serious pvp competition. It's a risk not to be focused, but not a huge one, especially when you learn what to expect from each level.

[stu]

Guys. They are clearly illithid / mind flayers. Stop calling them tentacle / octupus guys. You're making my brain hurt.

When I went into 3/1, I went in with the cleaver. You can also dodge their stun. I've also been able to roll backwards just as the stun ends to prevent getting facially penetrated.

Maybe it's because I save this one for PvP, but it hadn't occurred to me until now to use the Ant-Magic Field Miracle for fighting them. The Illithid just stands there ringing its bell while you go to town. 

Do we really have to call them Illithids? Sage Freke calls them octopus heads. 

[JWIV]

This maneater fight is going to drive me insane. 

[stu]

If worst comes to worst, you can use your bow to kill the first Maneater through the left side of the fog gate. Equip Clever Cat's Ring, then jump off the ledge a few times to increase your attack power first. This way you can solo the second spawn much easier. Yeah, it's cheap, but it works.

I did it after an extended string of frustration a few weeks ago.

[ffc]

The dark silver shield is 100% magic block and blocks the maneater sonic boom.  I just found that out as I used the shield on a new character.  Maneater also often loses interest in the fight with a thief's ring equipped, allowing you to heal / take shots at him.

[ghost]

The key to the Maneater is to kill the first one before the second one can spawn, or at least have it to where you only need a couple of hits before it dies.  I usually do maneater as late as possible and grind up levels before hitting it.

[JWIV]

Ended up cheesing out this morning, shot the first one dead and then easily handled the second one.  Well, easily for Demon's Souls anyhow.   

[Lounge]

For me Maneater was the hardest fight in the game.  On my second playthrough (same char) I used the warding spell and it was a cakewalk.

[Morfiend]

Maneater was the hardest fight for me too. I ended up cheesing him on my first character cause I just couldnt beat him.

BTW. This thread needs to stop. Its making me want to fire up Demon's Souls again.

[stu]

Atlus U.S.A. today announced that it will continue supporting servers for online play for Demon’s Souls through at least March 2011.

...

To celebrate today’s announcement, the game server’s World Tendency will change to Pure White for a couple of weeks, essentially making the game slightly easier for newcomers while giving us veterans a chance to reach otherwise inaccessible areas and items.

Just FYI 

I had my first encounter with Miralda. She spooked me since the last time I was in her area, she wasn't there. We ended up running back and forth on opposite sides of a stone platform while I caught my bearings. Reminded me of the time I totalled my mom's car and made sure I was on the other side of the dining room table when my dad arrived home and asked where her car was.

[JWIV]

Finally solved this!  About 50 or so hours over way too many months.    I screwed up and talked to the Maiden before tackling Doran so missed out on that, but otherwise I took great advantage of the white tendency event to snag some nice items and side quests.    The only thing I _really_ wish is that they'd refund the soul levels at the start of NG+ so as to allow you to experiment with new builds without having to start completely over.   

 

[Brogarn]

So, after the past two days of beating my forehead against this game, I've come to the conclusion that I am fucking fail. I got past Phalanx with little to no issue. At least nothing too frustrating once I started figuring things out. But past Phalanx is a ridiculous obstacle course of dragon dodging, wolf packs, archers and one of those Knights from Hell all intent on taking whatever pride I had in my gaming ability, coating it in kerosene, setting it on fire, then kicking me in the man sack for good measure. So, I decided that instead of ruining my TV by launching this torture device of a PS3 controller through it, I'd try the next stone up. The slow moving troll looking things are easy enough, and really easy to parry, but then some guy after that insists on setting me on fire. Repeatedly. In a room that I can't maneuver in too well. At this point, I'm just too fucking tired to figure out how to kill him. I'm done. This game is for masochists. Maybe I'll take up knitting.

[Pennilenko]

So, after the past two days of beating my forehead against this game, I've come to the conclusion that I am fucking fail. I got past Phalanx with little to no issue. At least nothing too frustrating once I started figuring things out. But past Phalanx is a ridiculous obstacle course of dragon dodging, wolf packs, archers and one of those Knights from Hell all intent on taking whatever pride I had in my gaming ability, coating it in kerosene, setting it on fire, then kicking me in the man sack for good measure. So, I decided that instead of ruining my TV by launching this torture device of a PS3 controller through it, I'd try the next stone up. The slow moving troll looking things are easy enough, and really easy to parry, but then some guy after that insists on setting me on fire. Repeatedly. In a room that I can't maneuver in too well. At this point, I'm just too fucking tired to figure out how to kill him. I'm done. This game is for masochists. Maybe I'll take up knitting.

I think this link may be what you need.

http://demonssouls.wikidot.com/

[Brogarn]

I think this link may be what you need.

http://demonssouls.wikidot.com/

I was trying to avoid spoilering myself and only using that wiki (which I already had bookmarked) as a class and game guide only. You know for like what souls do, what happens when you die, etc. As opposed to "how do I what do I need to beat this boss/area/etc" because that kind of ruins the process of discovery that makes up most of the fun of these games.

But fuck if I'm not reading at least some of it now. And no, I haven't really given up yet. I'm too stubborn for that. But I did need to vent or I was going to lose my shit.

[Pennilenko]

I think this link may be what you need.

http://demonssouls.wikidot.com/

I was trying to avoid spoilering myself and only using that wiki (which I already had bookmarked) as a class and game guide only. You know for like what souls do, what happens when you die, etc. As opposed to "how do I what do I need to beat this boss/area/etc" because that kind of ruins the process of discovery that makes up most of the fun of these games.

But fuck if I'm not reading at least some of it now. And no, I haven't really given up yet. I'm too stubborn for that. But I did need to vent or I was going to lose my shit.

Totally understand, unfortunately I waited until i had to replace a controller to start reading that site. I was just trying to be helpful.

[Brogarn]

Totally understand, unfortunately I waited until i had to replace a controller to start reading that site. I was just trying to be helpful.

Oh, it's appreciated. Thanks!

[Bzalthek]

I think this link may be what you need.

http://demonssouls.wikidot.com/

I was trying to avoid spoilering myself and only using that wiki (which I already had bookmarked) as a class and game guide only. You know for like what souls do, what happens when you die, etc. As opposed to "how do I what do I need to beat this boss/area/etc" because that kind of ruins the process of discovery that makes up most of the fun of these games.

But fuck if I'm not reading at least some of it now. And no, I haven't really given up yet. I'm too stubborn for that. But I did need to vent or I was going to lose my shit.

Totally understand, unfortunately I waited until i had to replace a controller to start reading that site. I was just trying to be helpful.

I remember when I was an angry gamer like that.  Then I turned 14 ;)

[JWIV]

Totally understand, unfortunately I waited until i had to replace a controller to start reading that site. I was just trying to be helpful.

Oh, it's appreciated. Thanks!

Demon Souls became a bit easier to handle once I made peace with myself that the concept of cheese does not exist in regards to this game. 

[ghost]

I haven't played this in a while and haven't been keeping up with the updates.  Has anything changed much?

[stu]

ffffffffffffffffffffffffuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuu-

I wouldn't rely too heavily on parry. My first full playthrough, I didn't use it a single time that I can remember. Basic blocking and stamina management are your friends. Stay with it!

[Lounge]

So, after the past two days of beating my forehead against this game, I've come to the conclusion that I am fucking fail. I got past Phalanx with little to no issue. At least nothing too frustrating once I started figuring things out. But past Phalanx is a ridiculous obstacle course of dragon dodging, wolf packs, archers and one of those Knights from Hell all intent on taking whatever pride I had in my gaming ability, coating it in kerosene, setting it on fire, then kicking me in the man sack for good measure. So, I decided that instead of ruining my TV by launching this torture device of a PS3 controller through it, I'd try the next stone up. The slow moving troll looking things are easy enough, and really easy to parry, but then some guy after that insists on setting me on fire. Repeatedly. In a room that I can't maneuver in too well. At this point, I'm just too fucking tired to figure out how to kill him. I'm done. This game is for masochists. Maybe I'll take up knitting.

Have you tried the ranged combat?  You should consider re-rolling as a Royal since you start with the pew pew.  Melee combat takes a while to master and is generally (imo) harder than ranged.

[Pennilenko]

Flamelurker was put into the game to punish me, I am sure of this!

[Rendakor]

I had more trouble with Flamelurker's stupid stage than the boss himself. I died at least 10 times trying to get to him (either falling to my death trying to take the shortcut, or getting eaten by those lava worms), while he only took me 2 attempts to kill.

[Brogarn]

Have you tried the ranged combat?  You should consider re-rolling as a Royal since you start with the pew pew.  Melee combat takes a while to master and is generally (imo) harder than ranged.

That's exactly what I ended up doing with the expected results. Vastly easier although a bit boring. I've only gotten through 1-2 and killed the Red Dragon along the way, though, so we'll see. It'll take me some time to get through it all because I feel like I have to have a dedicated couple of hours before even starting up the game, which isn't always easy to come by.

[Velorath]

Project Dark just announced a little while ago at Sony press conference at tgs.  New action RPG from the Demon's Souls team.  Not much else revealed yet.

Edit:  Apparently it's multiplatform (PS3 and 360).  Perhaps that's why they didn't just decide to do Demon's Souls 2.

[ffc]

Project Dark just announced a little while ago at Sony press conference at tgs.  New action RPG from the Demon's Souls team.  Not much else revealed yet.

Edit:  Apparently it's multiplatform (PS3 and 360).  Perhaps that's why they didn't just decide to do Demon's Souls 2.

Every time this thread was bumped I hoped it was for a sequel or DLC announcement.  The Project Dark trailer speaks for itself but here's another connection:

Demon's Souls:




Project Dark:




Me:

 

[JWIV]

Another Black/White event coming up


http://www.atlus.com/forum/showthread.php?t=8103

From their Facebook:
 HAPPY BIRTHDAY DEMON'S SOULS! Fans, thanks to you and your passion for Demon's Souls for PS3, it has gone on to become the biggest success in Atlus U.S.A., Inc's two decade history. To honor the occasion, the month of October will be split into two World Tendency events: 10/7 - 10/18 will be Pure White, and the remainder of the month will shift to Pure Black. Your support over this past year will never be forgotten. Thank you for touching the demon inside us!

[Lounge]

http://kotaku.com/5666793/how-to-beat-demons-souls-in-under-an-hour

54 minute Demon's Souls speed run.  He 1 hits Armor Spider at 1:35 in the 2nd video from the top.

[bhodi]

I'm still chugging through this, a bit. I beat maneater this weekend after trying for basically 5 hours on 4-2 and then him. I've got the meat cleaver and am soul level 60 or so.

I've completed
1-3
2-4
3-2
4-1

I am having an insanely hard time with 4-2, I seriously spent like 2 hours trying to get to and get past the circular walkway with the shades that have the sweeping eye-beam. I die constantly to the guys on the ledge on the outside; you have the manta rays shooting at you constantly, and there the pack of 2 roller skeletons backed up by an archer, followed by 2 gold skeletons with huge swords.

I only get past them maybe 1 in 3 tries. It's horrible. I realllly need to beat 4-2 so I can get second chance.

[Lounge]

The guys with the sweeping eye beam are controlled by the guy in the black robe.  Drop him and the rest fall immediately.  All can be pretty easily sniped with a bow just try to pick out where he is and drop him without even bothering with the other dudes.

[ghost]

Soul arrow is great for the gold skeletons, and if you have any sticky white stuff it will make quick work of them so you can get off the ledge.

[stu]

As soon as the shades crouch, roll forward and they will sweep their beams to where you were just standing.  By the time you recover, you should be close enough to cut it down. Just be sure to move on to the next staircase quickly before the last shade respawns behind you.

[JWIV]

I'm still chugging through this, a bit. I beat maneater this weekend after trying for basically 5 hours on 4-2 and then him. I've got the meat cleaver and am soul level 60 or so.

I've completed
1-3
2-4
3-2
4-1

I am having an insanely hard time with 4-2, I seriously spent like 2 hours trying to get to and get past the circular walkway with the shades that have the sweeping eye-beam. I die constantly to the guys on the ledge on the outside; you have the manta rays shooting at you constantly, and there the pack of 2 roller skeletons backed up by an archer, followed by 2 gold skeletons with huge swords.

I only get past them maybe 1 in 3 tries. It's horrible. I realllly need to beat 4-2 so I can get second chance.

Thief ring will help chill the manta's out.   The rolling and gold skeletons can be split and pulled with a bow and patience.

[ffc]

One of my fondest multiplayer memories from Demon's Souls is 4-2.  Minor boss spoiler: I had carefully cleared the entire level and made my way back to the beginning to get help for the boss I had never fought.  I found a highly ranked blue stone and brought the player in.  He sprinted through the cleared level at full speed and I easily lost him because I had to take my time not to fall off ledges.

When I caught up to him he was at the entrance to the Old Hero.  He had his bow equipped so I figured I would do the same.  I entered the fog and so did he.  He slowly moved behind the right side of the stone slab near the fog entrance and fired an arrow at the Old Hero.  I moved to the left side and did the same.  The other player did not take a second shot right away, and I wondered about that as I took my third.  

That's when the Old Hero screamed and jumped across the entire room straight for me.  Before I could react the Old Hero delivered a tremendous overhand chop and killed me.

I think the other player gave me a D rating for that one.

[ghost]

The first time I cleared the Gold skeletons I ran back up to the start area to get away from the mantas and rest.  Of course some guy invaded me and wiped my ass out.