Demon's Souls Coming to America.

[Kageh]

Yeah, the shortcut to Flamelurker. Although, once you have it figured out, it isn't that bad. The bad thing about it is that usually you're sick of running back to Flamelurker at that point!

[Morfiend]

Where do you see these numbers?  I didn't remember seeing numbers.  Not really sure which is the 2nd level.  I went to another board where it seemed that there were demon miners or something.  I could barely dent the bad guys so I figured I stepped too far ahead. 

There are no official numbers. But basically starting from the first Archstone, just count up. The very "left" archstone would be world 1, and the very right most being world 5, then each sub level is a -1.

Those miners you refer to are weak to piercing damage and resistant to slashing. That might be your problem with them. Some weapons have both damage types. Like the longswords, they are slashing for normal attack, but the hard attack is piercing.

[Draegan]

I couldn't be 2-2 because the only levels I ever finished the other day were 1-1 and 1-2. 

[Morfiend]

If these below are the archstones. Which one was it?

   [3]- - - X
  /             \
[2]            [4]         
 |                |
[1]            [5]


The X represents the broken archstone you cannot access.

Maybe FFC was correct and you where in 5-1. Ugh, I hate that level.

I would do something like... 1-1, 1-2, 2-1, 2-2,(2-3) 3-1, 4-1.... After that you should have a good feel of the game, and what level you can handle. I would stay away from 4 and 5 until you have a bit of levels. Those two can be brutal.

[Draegan]

Yeah it was 2.  But like I was saying it was 2-1.. couldn't be 2-2.  The other level was definitely 5.

[ffc]

   [3]- - - X
  /             \
[2]            [4]         
 |                |
[1]            [5]

That's a pretty awesome Archstone diagram.    I have well over 100 hours into this game and seeing it makes me want to play some more.

[Morfiend]

Same here. Just posting in this thread is making me want to play again. If they do a part two, I hope they "enhance" the multiplayer aspect. Due to the soul level restrictions, it seems the higher you get, the harder is it to play multiplayer.

Oh and:

"No interest eh? I can tell you're not going to last long here.."

"Soul of the lost, withdrawn from its vessel."

Now you really want to play more.

[ffc]

When I read those lines I hear them in voices forever burned into my brain.

[Falconeer]

"Soul of the lost, withdrawn from its vessel."

Now you really want to play more.

 

"No interest eh?"

 

"Touch the demon inside me"

 

Demon's Souls makes me feel sorry for those who don't get it.

[Azazel]

Don't worry. We're doing just fine. Please continue to enjoy yourself. 

[jakonovski]

I found a US import version of this game sitting on the shelf of a local games store. It is now in my bag. I shall have no more social life.

[Threash]

Fucking brother traded it in for final fantasy.  Its his PS3 and his game but fuck him anyways.

[jakonovski]

Not a very strong start, I rolled a barbarian and kept hitting my head against the brick wall that is 1-1. If my interest comes back some day I shall try a class that's not retarded.

[Azazel]

Heh. My enthusiasm had a similar trip from OARSOME I HAS IT NOW to meh. I'll get back to it one day. maybe.

Threash - buy your own copy? As long as he hasn't wiped the saves it should all be good.

[JWIV]

My experience improved drastically by going Royal instead of Temple Knight.   Though if I don't get the last part of 4-2 down soon, I may have to take a sanity break.   

[Falconeer]

Personally, I think Barbarian is the least satisfying class as an absolute beginner.

[Velorath]

Not a very strong start, I rolled a barbarian and kept hitting my head against the brick wall that is 1-1. If my interest comes back some day I shall try a class that's not retarded.

I can see 1-1 being a little frustrating since you can't return to the Nexus and spend your souls until you beat it the first time.  After you make it through there though, the game is really only as hard as you make it as it becomes fairly easy to play it safe and farm souls to level up if you want to (there's also plenty of ways to cheese some of the harder enemies for big payoffs, even at low levels).

[jakonovski]

I can see 1-1 being a little frustrating since you can't return to the Nexus and spend your souls until you beat it the first time.  After you make it through there though, the game is really only as hard as you make it as it becomes fairly easy to play it safe and farm souls to level up if you want to (there's also plenty of ways to cheese some of the harder enemies for big payoffs, even at low levels).

Yeah, I'm now over the first shock and will roll a Ranger later tonight. It's a rare talent I have, choosing the least enjoyable class in RPGs.

[Ghambit]

Just picked this up the other day via Gamefly.  What a breath of old-school fresh air.  They give you NO quarter in this game and I love it but, I'm starting to worry this is one title I mighta shoulda bought.

[NiX]

Just picked this up the other day via Gamefly.  What a breath of old-school fresh air.  They give you NO quarter in this game and I love it but, I'm starting to worry this is one title I mighta shoulda bought.

Nothing stopping you from buying it. Go on, do it.

[bhodi]

So, I'm playing this gradually at a friends house with another two watching since we all love the game but I'm the only one who's any good at it (sort of) and won't throw the controller against the wall in frustration.


Started as a temple knight, followed the wiki guide and mid-term goal was the meat cleaver, so I followed that build.

Did 1-1, died a bunch, finally figured out wtf I was doing. Got the cling ring which made things MUCH easier. Killed the boss, finally, during my 2nd evening.
Did 2-1, failed to kill the boss, abandoned it. Didn't really get any decent armor or weapons. Got a bow at some point, I think in 2-1. Killed boss a bit easier than 1-1.
Started 4-1, omgjesusfuckingrollingskeletons. Farmed a bunch since they were so valuable in terms of souls. Also farmed a bunch because I could simply not get to the miniboss courtyard without dying. Evening ended abruptly when I died at the top of the stairs, was running back, and got jacked because I accidentally pulled the skeleton while attacking the archer. Lost 10k souls on that one. Gave up for now after spending 2 hours there.

Tried 2-2. Died horribly to everything including the goddamned miners with their goddamned half-liife-hit-me-stunned-dead pickaxes. Spent a bunch of itme here but ultimately decided I was not strong enough and so I gave up.
Back to 4-1. Finally strong enough to get past the optional boss area (tried to engage optional boss. horrible mistake.) Died several times due to traps. Wrapped around to the left and saw an item guarded by the a ninja skeleton with two weapons. Engaged. Died. Got back. Got the regen ring, which is totally awesome. Died again. Lost all my souls. Finally able to distract him with one of those items that creatures go to investigate; I throw it, and run past him and grab the item. Best move I ever did, since he was guarding an awesome sword (+2 dragon blade I think, it's magic/fire damage). Ended the evening on a happy note, with shiny new gear.

New day, Back to 4-1 again. Die horribly due to flying manta rays and not having a useful ranged attack. Over and over again. Finally get past them and to the boss area, get killed by the ninja skeleton on the stairs. Lost 15k souls. Give up on this level.
Back to 2-2, get a bit farther with cool swords. Die falling down pits a bunch. Killed a bunch of exploding bugs. Didn't really get anywhere. Cleared out the upper part then went back.
Back to 4.1 for farming. Ended on a 'meh' note since no real progress was made.

This weekend, back to 2-2. Getting lost in tunnels and fucking with bugs, hooray. Finally get to flamelurker. died a few times but finally get a rhythm and managed to down him. Probably the hardest boss so far.
On to 4-1. Able to get up to and around the optional boss fairly easily. Touched a blue thing on the floor behind the optional boss and a guy came in my world. Arrowed the optional boss to death, which was very convenient for me. Also he arrowed all the rays making it much easier for me to get to the boss. Get in there, he's a giant fat guy with one swing that has a 4 minute windup. I murder him easily on the first try.

Back to ed, made the cleaver! Let's try this thing out. Too much equip burden to use it and a shield, but I go to 1-2 just for kicks. Obliterate every single guy in one hit. Kill 3 dogs in a single dodge-slam. Waltz to the near end boss, and get invaded! First time ever. He's red and mean looking. I take a cleaver swing at him and he dies ignobly in two hits. Get 4k souls from him along with a good laugh. Go to end boss. Remember him from a youtube video I watched a loooong time ago. Take a swing at his shin and it does 1/10th his life. Take another and he falls down. I hit him on the head for 1/4 of his life in one swing but miss finishing him due to annoying camera angle theater. One more swing at his shin and at his crown and he's down.

I'm a total powerhouse now with that sword. Now need to find where to get one of the recommended armor sets and the shield and I guess learn how to manipulate world tendencies.


Biggest learning experiences would have been to hit 4-1 for that sword much sooner, and I ALMOST missed the cling ring. I DID miss the regen ring at first and saw it on a random run back. Those three items allowed me to progress, and the damned wildly overpowered cleaver is carrying me 100% now.

[Teleku]

I'm still amazed people have as hard of time with this game as I hear.  I seriously blew through all of 1-2 and 2-4 with only a few deaths on my first play through, and didn't have that hard of a time making it further with minimal deaths.  Though it seems I did grab a favorable class right off (Temple Knight) and made sure to get a good ranged weapon along with melee weapon, while building up decent magic.

[jakonovski]

Rolled a ranger last night and blazed through 1-1 without dying once. Awesome! Have to go back to get the Cling Ring though.

[Ginaz]

Is there any suggestions on a class to start with for someone who's just started playing?  I picked the wanderer class last night but I'm having trouble getting through the first castle.  I know part of my problem is that I'm used to playing rpg's on the pc rather than console and I'm trying learn how to move my character with with a gamepad rather than with the mouse/keyboard.  I can see that I might enjoy this a lot if I can get past my initial frustration. 

Oh, and hi.  First time poster, long time lurker.

[Quinton]

Royal is a really good starter class.  You have a ranged magic attack and a MP regen ring right from the get go, which can help a lot.

It's still really worth learning to dodge around and parry, but being able to attack from a distance adds a lot of flexibility.

[bhodi]

Yeah apparently royal is the easiest to play. Magic in general is extremely strong in this game. So is the ranger.

[Rasix]

I felt royal was great once I got the hang of the game.  My first try was with a knight I think, and I learned to dodge, block, and kick some ass all while dying repeatedly.  I think I did 1-1, 1-2, and 2-1 with this character until starting over with a royal.

Then with the royal I ended up one shotting 1-1.  Unlike a lot of games, you can really notice when you get better at DS. 

[JWIV]

Then with the royal I ended up one shotting 1-1.  Unlike a lot of games, you can really notice when you get better at DS. 

Yes.   

[Morfiend]

I felt royal was great once I got the hang of the game.  My first try was with a knight I think, and I learned to dodge, block, and kick some ass all while dying repeatedly.  I think I did 1-1, 1-2, and 2-1 with this character until starting over with a royal.

Then with the royal I ended up one shotting 1-1.  Unlike a lot of games, you can really notice when you get better at DS. 

I started with a Knight and then a Wanderer. I think I would have avoided much frustration with the Knight if I had started with the Royal, although, the Knights longsword is a much better beginner weapon than the rapier.

[Ginaz]

Another question.  I've heard that other players can "invade" your game and kill you as a Black Phantom.  Is there a way to disable this, at least on the first play through?  I'm not adverse to pvp but I'd like to learn how to play the game before doing it.  It still sounds like a pretty cool feature, though.  

I love how interactive this game can be, with the Black Phantoms, the notes left by other players and being able to see how other players died.  Its probably the most unique rpg I've played yet.  

[bhodi]

Another question.  I've heard that other players can "invade" your game and kill you as a Black Phantom.  Is there a way to disable this, at least on the first play through?  I'm not adverse to pvp but I'd like to learn how to play the game before doing it.  It still sounds like a pretty cool feature, though.  

I love how interactive this game can be, with the Black Phantoms, the notes left by other players and being able to see how other players died.  Its probably the most unique rpg I've played yet.  

Yes and no. You can play in offline mode, but there really isn't any reason to. There are two ways to get invaded; one is a willing invasion, sort of consentual pvp. The other is them forcing invasion on a random person. It's extremely rare to get invaded unwillingly, I've put maybe 10-15 hours into the game and only got invaded once for the first time. There are level limits of course and I don't think you can get invaded until you reach a certain point either in the game or in character strength / soul level.

It's not UO.

[ffc]

Another question.  I've heard that other players can "invade" your game and kill you as a Black Phantom.  Is there a way to disable this, at least on the first play through?  I'm not adverse to pvp but I'd like to learn how to play the game before doing it.  It still sounds like a pretty cool feature, though.  

I love how interactive this game can be, with the Black Phantoms, the notes left by other players and being able to see how other players died.  Its probably the most unique rpg I've played yet.  

Invasions only happen when you are in body form.  On your first playthrough you will be in soul form most of the time so invasions can't happen.   And if you only need help for a boss fight but can clear the level on your own then use an ephemeral eye right before the boss to go into body form and backtrack until you can summon help.

[Ghambit]

I'm getting my ass kicked as a priest on 1-1.  I can tell half-hp really gimps a class like this at the start of the game.  You pretty much have to play perfectly, which can be rewarding, but frustrating.
Perhaps I'm relying too much on melee.

Also, I killed that blonde girl in the Nexus that just gives some lore info.  She hasnt respawned yet, is this bad?  And where are these other characters I keep reading about?  I assume they show up later?

[Draegan]

Can someone explain to me tendencies?  I remember getting a white and blue crystal that I got somewhere that did something.

[bhodi]

The wiki has all your answers and more. This really isn't a game you can walk into without doing a tiny bit of research and planning. http://demonssouls.wikidot.com/

World Tendencies can you get special items when they are white or black. Also, monsters in them get stronger if black weaker if white. Your own tendencies give you extra damage and health while in soul form, stuff like that. Dying in the wold in body form shifts the world to black, as does killing shopkeepers/npcs and such.

In general killing anyone in the nexus is a bad idea. No one respawns, ever, until you beat it and restart. Some characters you have to rescue, the are in some of the worlds.