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Kageh
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Reply #595 on: January 07, 2010, 01:55:21 AM

If you aggro Stockpile Thomas but didn't kill him yet, try hard reset, it might reset him back to friendly. I ... ummm... err... read about it happening to a friend of mine who accidentally pressed R2 grabbing the controller while standing in front of him  Oh ho ho ho. Reallllly?

(But the game saves the second you kill an NPC, so it doesn't work after killing him)
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Reply #596 on: January 12, 2010, 07:36:14 AM

So first I built another character and did everything in the exact same order and got even further (I completed everything but 1-4, 3-2, 3-3 and final boss) but I fucking killed Stockpile Thomas again... It went something like this:

Ohhhhh, I see.

then...

swamp poop

and

ACK!

Now I'm going to build a Dexterity / Magic build and actually complete the game. Going to try out Blind, Crescent weapons and Large Sword of Searching.
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Reply #597 on: January 12, 2010, 11:02:45 AM

So first I built another character and did everything in the exact same order and got even further (I completed everything but 1-4, 3-2, 3-3 and final boss) but I fucking killed Stockpile Thomas again... It went something like this:

Ohhhhh, I see.

then...

swamp poop

and

ACK!

Now I'm going to build a Dexterity / Magic build and actually complete the game. Going to try out Blind, Crescent weapons and Large Sword of Searching.

I managed to take a swing at the Maiden in Black in one of my games.  I set the controller down and it caught the right trigger and swung while i was in front of her.  I *immediately* reached to the back of the ps3 and did a hard shutdown.  She was back when i reloaded.  After that i started switching out to my talisman and a buff spell EVERY time i entered the nexus to prevent this from happening.  A bow works ok too since you have to hit the button twice to actually fire it.
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Reply #598 on: January 12, 2010, 11:07:18 AM

Actually you can go to town on the Maiden in Black.  Same with the Monumental.  I suggest seeing what happens with both, especially the Maiden in Black.
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Reply #599 on: January 12, 2010, 12:07:11 PM

I've accidentally hit several of the merchants with no problems.....  Not sure if I ever hit Stockpile guy though.  Is he different?

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Reply #600 on: January 12, 2010, 12:15:25 PM

Are you sure you hit them? Most go to town on your ass after the first hit.
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Reply #601 on: January 12, 2010, 12:54:36 PM

Hmm, I thought I hit them with weapons, but maybe not.  I'd often just dive around when running between merchants, and if you hit them while rolling they stand up and yell at you, but don't attack.  I know for sure I did that, so maybe it's only that I'm thinking of.


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Reply #602 on: January 13, 2010, 01:18:28 AM

They do allow you for a bit of free damage before going aggro, I can confirm that. I also did the rolling + "fall down on them" thing a few times by accident. The free hit is also quite handy in situations like Biorr vs. Penetrator or Ostrava vs. 1-3 red eye knights (or any mob), where it is hard to avoid hitting the NPC if you have weapons swinging in wide arcs.

Maiden in Black can be killed and will just respawn. AFAIK you can't kill Monumental as hits will just bounce off him? Blue phantom guy can be killed also, you'll just get a char tendency shift for that.
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Reply #603 on: January 13, 2010, 04:02:44 PM

If you keep talking to the blue phantom guy, he'll kill himself.
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Reply #604 on: January 13, 2010, 05:47:44 PM

I thought he just faded away, which goes to show what happens when you're a spirit for too long. You lose your mind then your identity.

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Reply #605 on: January 13, 2010, 06:47:23 PM

The Monumental will giggle at you after enough hits.
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Reply #606 on: January 13, 2010, 07:54:11 PM

I've smacked so many people just from setting my controller down its ridiculous.

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Reply #607 on: January 14, 2010, 01:33:25 PM

I have had good luck with just leaving people alone after I accidentally hit them.  If you go to one of the levels and come back I've never had them be still hostile.
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Reply #608 on: February 09, 2010, 09:41:52 PM

Sequel should be announced soon, hopefully.
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Reply #609 on: February 10, 2010, 01:35:34 AM

ahh nice, good news.
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Reply #610 on: February 10, 2010, 04:24:48 PM

Sequel should be announced soon, hopefully.

I hope you are right. Can't trust From Software thought... They seem to think irrationally when it comes to what IPs to develop.
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Reply #611 on: February 10, 2010, 11:35:52 PM

How can you improve upon perfection?  I can only hope the team behind Demon's Souls had some ideas in the "no no, that's too crazy" pile they can now unleash.
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Reply #612 on: February 11, 2010, 12:04:50 AM

How can you improve upon perfection?  I can only hope the team behind Demon's Souls had some ideas in the "no no, that's too crazy" pile they can now unleash.
Land of the Giants.
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Reply #613 on: February 11, 2010, 01:53:11 AM

I'd like to see the armor/itemization part expanded past weapons (where it was awesome). Always found the armors to be kind of bland. At the bare minimum be craftable/upgradable.

There's lots of lore potential too!

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Reply #614 on: March 13, 2010, 06:12:05 PM

Just started playing.  I got a Knights Shield while my playing and I finished the Tower Knight.  Now I went back and got the Purple Flame Shield.  The Knight Shield gives better stats apparently.

Why is the Purple Flame good?

Also, I'm about soul level 20, and I have my stats pretty even at 14/15 with int/str and have endurance and vit at 12, magic and miracles (or whatever it is at 12/13.  Started off Royalty.

Love the game so far.  It's awesome, I just hope I'm not screwing stuff up.

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Reply #615 on: March 13, 2010, 06:19:33 PM

Just started playing.  I got a Knights Shield while my playing and I finished the Tower Knight.  Now I went back and got the Purple Flame Shield.  The Knight Shield gives better stats apparently.

Why is the Purple Flame good?

Also, I'm about soul level 20, and I have my stats pretty even at 14/15 with int/str and have endurance and vit at 12, magic and miracles (or whatever it is at 12/13.  Started off Royalty.

Love the game so far.  It's awesome, I just hope I'm not screwing stuff up.


Knight shield is good - the Purple Flame shield has better fire resistance (90% vs 70%) which is handy in a few spots. 
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Reply #616 on: March 15, 2010, 02:30:11 AM

Just started playing.  I got a Knights Shield while my playing and I finished the Tower Knight.  Now I went back and got the Purple Flame Shield.  The Knight Shield gives better stats apparently.

Why is the Purple Flame good?

Also, I'm about soul level 20, and I have my stats pretty even at 14/15 with int/str and have endurance and vit at 12, magic and miracles (or whatever it is at 12/13.  Started off Royalty.

Love the game so far.  It's awesome, I just hope I'm not screwing stuff up.



For the early game, it's probably better to decide on whether to focus int or str (magic vs. melee) in order to not gimp yourself. Later, at SL 100 and above, you can start evening stats out. The magic number for maximum effect is usually around stat value 40, past that you'll see only little improvement.

Main difference of Purple Flame vs. Knight Shield is the shield type (PFS is heavy, KS is med), meaning KS still has the "counter" move option L2 (I think?) while PFS gets the "shove/push" attack. Being a heavy shield, PF caps out at 82 hit resistance (PFS +10) vs. 78 for KS +10. Basically that means you can take heavier hits and more hits without staggering when using PFS.

PFS is the lightest shield with 90 fire resist, and there are spots where that will help a lot, for example Flamelurker, Armored Spider or dragons with fire breath. The other two options for fire resist are Large Brushwood Shield and Tower Shield, with the latter being quite a burden to carry around (weight 30).

I'd say that if counter-attacking is your thing, KS is definitely the best of them medium shields until you get Dark Silver Shield. In my game, I gave up on countering once I was in NG+ ("Nightmare" game in terms of Diablo) because of the minuscule error margin and the punishing results.
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Reply #617 on: March 15, 2010, 04:07:41 AM

This game was too hardcore for me.  There, I said it. 
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Reply #618 on: March 15, 2010, 06:43:07 AM

Well I stopped playing this game in lieu of FFXIII.  Demon's Souls is too good and I'm going to have to spend a LOT of time with it and I'd rather knock out FFXIII first.

The second level where you are just basically going downward over wooden boards is terrible.  It's not very fun.
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Reply #619 on: March 15, 2010, 07:51:18 AM

It wasn't too hardcore for my 14 years old kid who usually only plays Pro Evolution Soccer. Only game he ever finished.

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Reply #620 on: March 15, 2010, 08:23:05 AM

Not me!  I'm still fighting my way through it.  I figure at the rate I'm going, I'll have it solved just in time for the sequel to arrive in the US.
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Reply #621 on: March 15, 2010, 12:07:41 PM

The second level where you are just basically going downward over wooden boards is terrible.  It's not very fun.

I think you are referring to level 2-2. There are two ways to go down, one is the pit with platforms you jump from one to the next (this is the short way), the other way is much longer but has more rewards and items. Its right at the beginning of the level where the direction you take determines which was you go.
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Reply #622 on: March 15, 2010, 12:14:34 PM

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There are two ways to go down, one is the pit with platforms you jump from one to the next (this is the short way), the other way is much longer but has more rewards and items.

But remember, if it's pure black or pure white tendency, you want to go the short way at least once to kill the dude halfway down the shaft to get one of the best items in the game.
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Reply #623 on: March 15, 2010, 12:15:21 PM

It wasn't too hardcore for my 14 years old kid who usually only plays Pro Evolution Soccer. Only game he ever finished.


It wasn't too hardcore for me when I was 14 either.  Actually I think the point of being 14 is that you are hardcore.   But I can't abide a game anymore that starts you from the beginning of the level when you die and has plenty of things that can instantly kill you without a strategy guide the first time through.  It seems neat I just don't have the patience for this.
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Reply #624 on: March 15, 2010, 12:17:47 PM

It wasn't too hardcore for my 14 years old kid who usually only plays Pro Evolution Soccer. Only game he ever finished.
It wasn't too hardcore for me when I was 14 either.  Actually I think the point of being 14 is that you are hardcore.   But I can't abide a game anymore that starts you from the beginning of the level when you die and has plenty of things that can instantly kill you without a strategy guide the first time through.  It seems neat I just don't have the patience for this.
The levels aren't that big that starting from the beginning is that bad once you stop sucking. In fact, not only do shortcuts open up, but at least 5 of the levels have MASSIVE shortcuts without having to futz around with levers.
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Reply #625 on: March 15, 2010, 12:20:33 PM

I think I'm just bad at video games now.  Either that or I've been gelded through an early diet of hardcore JRPG's and FPS and am now like a soft pampered eunuch.


Edit:  Either way, sorry to be a Buzz Killington by just chiming in and saying I didn't care for the game.
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Reply #626 on: March 15, 2010, 02:05:38 PM

The second level where you are just basically going downward over wooden boards is terrible.  It's not very fun.

I think you are referring to level 2-2.

It sounds like 5-1.  I much prefer dropping into the haystack shortcut than winding my way down.
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Reply #627 on: March 15, 2010, 03:18:36 PM

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There are two ways to go down, one is the pit with platforms you jump from one to the next (this is the short way), the other way is much longer but has more rewards and items.

But remember, if it's pure black or pure white tendency, you want to go the short way at least once to kill the dude halfway down the shaft to get one of the best items in the game.

For me this was probably the hardest fight in the entire game.  I'm sure there was some kind of trick to it, but i managed to brute force it after 3 or 4 tries.
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Reply #628 on: March 16, 2010, 06:15:25 AM

The second level where you are just basically going downward over wooden boards is terrible.  It's not very fun.

I think you are referring to level 2-2.

It sounds like 5-1.  I much prefer dropping into the haystack shortcut than winding my way down.

Where do you see these numbers?  I didn't remember seeing numbers.  Not really sure which is the 2nd level.  I went to another board where it seemed that there were demon miners or something.  I could barely dent the bad guys so I figured I stepped too far ahead. 
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Reply #629 on: March 16, 2010, 07:02:54 AM

You're definitely talking about 2-2. A deep mineshaft where you have to jump down onto planks that you can barely see (and sometimes can't) in the darkness, often falling to your death because you were running instead of walking? That's the one.
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