Demon's Souls Coming to America.

[ghost]

You need to stumble upon blue signs from players in your level range offering to be summoned, there's no way to "actively" ask for aid, at least not that I know of. And you need to be in body form to see the blue signs.

Sometimes you can run across the pink smudges that say "you can summon here", which sometimes will indicate that someone is looking to team up.  That is probably the best you will get.

[Kageh]

Indeed, but those are mere pointers that some guy might have left a blue sign there - or maybe not - and there's also the possibility of the blue sign being there but simply not showing up for you.

[stu]

That makes sense. Thanks.

[Morfiend]

Indeed, but those are mere pointers that some guy might have left a blue sign there - or maybe not - and there's also the possibility of the blue sign being there but simply not showing up for you.

There are specific areas where you are allowed to use a Blue Eyed Stone. People leave those messages so that others will know the game allows summoning at that point.

All this talk is making me really want to play again. I just really cant spend the money on another version. Guess I can just play the asian version again. But I really want to give Atlas my money for having the balls to import this game for us.

[JWIV]

Okay, so I just ran through Boletarian Palace 1-1 and there is no dragon at the bridge.  Is this a glitch?  

Which bridge?

The very first place you typically encounter the dragon.  Right after you pass the passageway to their roost.

Just ran into the same thing - no dragon in the area, so snagged me some treasure free and clear.  

Parrying - Sucks.  It's awesome if you can pull it and the riposte off since you then get a sweet kill animation.  But jesus it's a pain.  Much easier to shield block or roll.

Game difficulty.  It's not hard, it is however unforgiving.  I died a billion times, but only because I got sloppy or fell into a bad habit of button mashing in a panic instead of remembering to escape and take advantage of my reach.     When I was focused and paying attention, I was a god of wanton destruction as I marched up and down the steps one shoting leaping critters with my halberd.

Also, I am in love.  Brief tutorial and then HERE IS THE FUN.  No stupid crippled ramp up.  No 45 minutes of cut scene exposition.  Just straight up action. 

It helps vastly that people are leaving warnings and hints everywhere (they've highlighted a few secrets I may have missed otherwise).  It really makes for a great community and a great overall experience and something that I think the game isn't getting enough credit for.

[Kageh]

Indeed, but those are mere pointers that some guy might have left a blue sign there - or maybe not - and there's also the possibility of the blue sign being there but simply not showing up for you.

There are specific areas where you are allowed to use a Blue Eyed Stone. People leave those messages so that others will know the game allows summoning at that point.

The game allowed me summoning wherever I found a blue sign and I could use my blue stone anywhere I wanted. Knowing that the game allows summoning at that point from red signs - I actually didn't know there are points where you can't use the blue one, except for maybe stuff like Old Monk if you do the PVP version, where you cannot recall either - is not an improvement if you cannot find the blue signs. My point was that there is no way to actively summon someone. You either find their blue sign or you can't summon. Finding a red sign saying "There might be blue signs nearby" is not providing more information than the regular "There might be blue signs anywhere anyway".

[Nerf]

I found a decent way to grind up some quick souls tonight is to drop my blue stone right in front of a boss fight - doing it 3 times the longest it took was about 20 seconds for someone to pick me up right before entering the 2-2 boss.  I also had to drop the "I wish I had some friends.." message before this fight to kill him the first time and pick up a blue stone that someone dropped - my strength isn't high enough to use the purple flame shield yet and even with the fire resist ring fire rapes me.

Also, I'm 99% sure you don't need to be in your body to pick up/see the blue messages, because I had already died to the boss once before getting a hand (and about 15 seconds after entering the level to those stupid fucking exploding carts, and then again about 10 20a metric fuckton of times trying to get down the pit without falling.  I'm buying a new PS3 controller tomorrow, because this one is balls.

Loving the game though, my royal is a lot more fun to play than my brothers knight, even after I made him get a spear so he'd stop getting raped.  Soon as he unlocks the heavy arrow vendor and grabs the composite longbow he should be sitting pretty though.  Fighting bosses melee that you sat comfortably at range and pelted before is a definite change.

[Le0]

I'm getting a PS3 soon and I figured this Demon's Souls, Diablo Like  , seems to be a nice game to get but I'm Euro and it was not released over here yet was it?

Any other way to get it?

[schild]

Demon's Souls isn't diablo like.

I have no clue about Europe. Import it.

[Le0]

Can I import from US and put it in my Euro Ps3 ? Isn't there some incompatiblity of PAL thing or what not?

[JWIV]

Can I import from US and put it in my Euro Ps3 ? Isn't there some incompatiblity of PAL thing or what not?

PS3 games are supposedly region free, so you could probably do that.  But seriously, this is not a Diablo clone.  Mindlessly doing anything at anytime in this game will make you dead. 

[Kageh]

Can I import from US and put it in my Euro Ps3 ? Isn't there some incompatiblity of PAL thing or what not?

You can import fine. I'm in EU and playing the Korean (english) version. I'm also importing the US version just because it is such a cool game and deserves support.

[Kageh]

Also, I'm 99% sure you don't need to be in your body to pick up/see the blue messages, because I had already died to the boss once before getting a hand (and about 15 seconds after entering the level to those stupid fucking exploding carts, and then again about 10 20a metric fuckton of times trying to get down the pit without falling.  I'm buying a new PS3 controller tomorrow, because this one is balls.

Uh, not sure about what happened there, but you must be in body form to summon help. It's by design and it should not be possible otherwise. Thus, you are also not seeing blue signs when in soul form.

You can read up on the mechanics here (DS Wiki) and according to what I've experienced myself, the section is pretty accurate. Check the table near the bottom for the possible stone uses and online play combinations - it also explains how PKing and duelling work, and how you can dismiss idiot blue phantom players, should you encounter them.

EDIT: The wiki mentions the thing about blue eye stones not being usable everywhere and the "You can summon here" pointers, too.

[Cyrrex]

Question...


Also, this game is really fun.  And hard...but not unfairly so.

[JWIV]

Cyrex- just wander a bit near the big landing (left facing the statue).  one of the dudes sitting along the wall is what you're looking for.

[Cyrrex]

Not the dude that has the stone thing?

[ffc]

Not the dude that has the stone thing?

He's the only one with a lit candle in the long row of people sitting way upstairs.  Someone had helpfully left a message of "This is it." in front of him so I rated it.

[Cyrrex]

awesome, thanks.

[Morfiend]

Finding a red sign saying "There might be blue signs nearby" is not providing more information than the regular "There might be blue signs anywhere anyway".

You are missing the point. The messages are to let people know they they can use their blue-eyed stone in that location to leave a blue message.

[ghost]

Finding a red sign saying "There might be blue signs nearby" is not providing more information than the regular "There might be blue signs anywhere anyway".

You are missing the point. The messages are to let people know they they can use their blue-eyed stone in that location to leave a blue message.

And it is really the only way to fish for a coop.

[Kageh]

Finding a red sign saying "There might be blue signs nearby" is not providing more information than the regular "There might be blue signs anywhere anyway".

You are missing the point. The messages are to let people know they they can use their blue-eyed stone in that location to leave a blue message.

I got you, although I have to admit it wasn't that obvious when I first read it. What I was saying is that I don't know of any location where you couldn't use your blue eye stone. I only used my stone at archstones or before boss battles, and it was always possible where I tried. However, since I read in the Wiki that there are indeed spots where it doesn't work, I randomly looked out for some obvious ones today, and I found out that you probably can't use the stone in all of 1-4, not even at the archstone.

Other than that, I really don't see the point of using a red message to convey something to another player who knows where on the internet, when the other player, were he that desperate to offer himself for multiplayer, could just quickslot the blue stone and quickly glance whether it is greyed out or not. It's not like there's a shortage of quick slots. But then again, maybe I'm too sophisticated.   

[JWIV]

Finding a red sign saying "There might be blue signs nearby" is not providing more information than the regular "There might be blue signs anywhere anyway".

You are missing the point. The messages are to let people know they they can use their blue-eyed stone in that location to leave a blue message.

I got you, although I have to admit it wasn't that obvious when I first read it. What I was saying is that I don't know of any location where you couldn't use your blue eye stone. I only used my stone at archstones or before boss battles, and it was always possible where I tried. However, since I read in the Wiki that there are indeed spots where it doesn't work, I randomly looked out for some obvious ones today, and I found out that you probably can't use the stone in all of 1-4, not even at the archstone.

Other than that, I really don't see the point of using a red message to convey something to another player who knows where on the internet, when the other player, were he that desperate to offer himself for multiplayer, could just quickslot the blue stone and quickly glance whether it is greyed out or not. It's not like there's a shortage of quick slots. But then again, maybe I'm too sophisticated.   

It's not just a matter of being desperate.  It's also a way to improve your CT/WT

[ghost]

I am finding that I don't particularly love the PvP aspects of this game.  I always seem to get the guys that want to try and kite me around all over the fucking place, which just makes me irritated. 

[Nerf]

Also, I'm 99% sure you don't need to be in your body to pick up/see the blue messages, because I had already died to the boss once before getting a hand (and about 15 seconds after entering the level to those stupid fucking exploding carts, and then again about 10 20a metric fuckton of times trying to get down the pit without falling.  I'm buying a new PS3 controller tomorrow, because this one is balls.

Uh, not sure about what happened there, but you must be in body form to summon help. It's by design and it should not be possible otherwise. Thus, you are also not seeing blue signs when in soul form.

You can read up on the mechanics here (DS Wiki) and according to what I've experienced myself, the section is pretty accurate. Check the table near the bottom for the possible stone uses and online play combinations - it also explains how PKing and duelling work, and how you can dismiss idiot blue phantom players, should you encounter them.

EDIT: The wiki mentions the thing about blue eye stones not being usable everywhere and the "You can summon here" pointers, too.

Doh, you're right, now I remember what I did.  I couldn't kill him, and thought dropping my blue stone would summon someone into my game to help me out, instead I got summoned into someone elses where I helped them kill flamelurker and it brought me back to life.  I went straight back to flamelurker, and there were blue signs on the ground so I picked one up and viola, one dead boss.  Totally forgot about that first bit, heh.

[Kageh]

It's not just a matter of being desperate.  It's also a way to improve your CT/WT

It doesn't improve WT. Killing invading Black Phantoms improves your CT at a very slow rate (and you're not guaranteed to get one every time you co-op).

Best methods if you care about WT/CT are:

[Morfiend]

I'm not sure if the game has matured enough yet, but 4-1 was always the PVP hotspot in the Asian version. A lot of people would just get a group of 3 and then sit and wait for invading Blacks. I had a LOT of fun doing that.

Although, I seem to do much better defending than attacking.

[schild]

You mean 4-2. 4-1 was impressively light in PvP compared to the area following the Adjudicator.

[Morfiend]

You mean 4-2. 4-1 was impressively light in PvP compared to the area following the Adjudicator.

No. I always found 1-3 and 4-1 to be the most PVP heavy areas.

[Kageh]

I've read about 4-1 and 4-2 being both very frequented, but funnily enough I got the most invaders in 3-2 and in 5-2 in the swamp. The 5-2 swamp especially was the "fun" ranged playground with people shooting at me while I had to crawl through the mud.

I've seen a few cool videos of 1-3 PKing, and it seems to make for a very tense chase through the city, probably the "most entertaining" vs. level. 4-2 on the other hand I can imagine being a pain in the rear with all the darkness and narrow walkways.

[Draegan]

This game makes me want to buy a PS3.  I really don't want to spend $300+game.  /sadface

[NiX]

This game makes me want to buy a PS3.  I really don't want to spend $300+game.  /sadface

Jesus made sacrifices for your soul. Maybe it's time you did too.

[Rendakor]

Goddamn this game is hard. Starting as a Magician was a bad idea. Rerolled after dying to trash over and over because mana doesn't regen automatically. Round 2 is a Temple Knight, although I should've just gone with a Knight as I don't even keep my focusing device (or whatever I need to self-heal) equipped. The game is a bit less painful as a melee powerhouse, although not much.

I also had no dragon in 1-1; I don't really understand the WT/CT stuff, so I just assumed it was a bug and looted to my heart's content. However, he was there in 1-2 and I spent a good 20 minutes pew pewing him to death with a composite short bow. Now, when I go back to 1-1 he's just chilling in his roost area, lashing his tail of instant death.

Is there a place to buy or pick up some leather armor early in the game (I'm on 2-1 now)? Based on what people have said here, I'm looking to swap out of this heavy plate and see if I can't just dodge attacks better.

[Sauced]

Started as a thief, and have played way too much to stuck on 1-2.  Every group that gets to the tower knight fails, usually with a disconnect when he's at 10% health.  I have a 100% D rating for some reason.  I want to love this game, but it doesn't love me.  I don't even think it's hard, I just refuse to use one of my eyes for a rez so soon.

[ffc]

Best methods if you care about WT/CT are:

Wow.  There is no way I would have figured any of that out.  The WT and CT wiki's (contains spoilers but if anyone is like me with a 0% understanding of WT/CT then it's worth spoiling) combined with your tactics pretty much clears everything up.

[Morfiend]

Best methods if you care about WT/CT are:

Wow.  There is no way I would have figured any of that out.  The WT and CT wiki's (contains spoilers but if anyone is like me with a 0% understanding of WT/CT then it's worth spoiling) combined with your tactics pretty much clears everything up.

Honestly, I would just play through with out worrying about it the first time. You can then try to work on tendency ether with a new character or in NG+(+).