Batman Begins

[toma levine]

If I remember correctly, in the book the other kids survived, albeit horribly disfigured.

[Ironwood]

That always bothered me a little.

Mike TV got shrunk and then stretched.
Augustus got squished in a pipe.
Violet got dejuiced and was blue for the rest of her fucking life.

But that little cunt Veruca only got covered in rubbish.


How is that fair ?

Bitch.

[Paelos]

Because rich, whiney bitches get away with more bullshit and only have to pay the fine. Paris Hilton is making a career of it.

[HaemishM]

I thought about this in the shower this morning. The Wonka thing bothers me for the same reason another remake bothers me.

The upcoming remake of The Pink Panther, starring Steve Martin as our favorite Inspector Clouseau. See, Martin is an accomplished comedic actor. He can do physical comedy. And there was nothing especially special about the Pink Panther movies themselves...

except for Peter Sellers.

Now maybe it's because I saw that wonderful little production "The Life of Death of Peter Sellers" on HBO recently, but I've had a rekindling of interest in Sellers lately. My wife has never seen one of his movies, so I'm Netflixing some of the better ones (Strangelove, the original PP).

The man was a fucking genius. He created Clouseau from mostly nothing, a bit part in a David Niven vehicle. It wasn't just speech, it was mannerisms, it was improvisation, it was just genius. Clouseau wasn't funny because he was written funny, he was funny because Peter Sellers inhabited that role. No one, and I mean NO ONE, could do the things he did with it without looking like a pale imitation. Throw in his performances in Lolita, Dr. Strangelove and Being There, and his genius just shines through.

Depp is a fantastic actor, with a wide range. And just like he did with Capt. Jack Sparrow, he can inhabit certain roles. I'd rather never see another Pirates film than see someone else play Sparrow, because it was that good a performance. And the sames goes for Gene Wilder as Wonka.

If the original movie were lost to the sands of time and never available to see, I'd say doing a remake homage would be great, because it's that good a story. But that isn't the case, which just means money grab, both for the Wonka movie and for the Pink Panther movie.

[Paelos]

I don't think that your disagreement with the idea of that sort of remake is at all unique. I think that most generations get upset at the idea of business selling off your childhood to the highest bidder.

[stray]

Yeah, I agree. It's hard to see any reason the Pink Panther should be remade other than ressurecting Peter Sellers. Without him, the movies really aren't that funny. Some remakes turn out for the better, but I highly doubt it in this case -- They could give 100% effort and make the movie truly great on all other points, but without Sellers, it's pointless. IMO, he is one of the top 10 greatest screen actors of all time (again..IMO), and newer audiences are better off just seeing his version.

I'm not sure Wonka necessarily falls in that category though. It's got a legacy of it's own without Gene Wilder. But we'll see, I guess.

[Dark Vengeance]

Gotta side with Haemish on this one. Why?

The Wizard of Oz. Remake that flick sans Judy Garland, and every last faggo-tron in this thread insisting that remakes are just great would be oozing blood from their eardrums, because their fucking brain would explode upon seeing one of the most memorable performances in film history butchered by some halfwit cockblister like Ashlee Simpson.

Wonka was fine as it was. Sellers didn't need the wild and crazy guy to lay a steaming turd squarely upon his legacy. At least when Leslie Neilsen shat all over Mister McGoo he was only violating a cartoon.

Bring the noise.
Cheers..............

[Righ]

There is a world of difference between re-enacting Wonka and Clouseau. Dahl's stories can survive re-interpretation by different casts to produce multiple worthwhile movies. Maybe Depp will add something - time will tell.

The Pink Panther requires the madcap performances of its original cast to work. Attempting to recreate the antics of the former cast might be a worthwhile challenge for a community theatre, but its hardly dignified in the world of multi-mullion dollar movies.

[schild]

Enough Wonka. Let's talk about the cube.

Edit: Apparently it's not hard to find someone shittier than Diesel (qualification: When he's not playing Riddick).

[Righ]

This is the man who brought us "Get Off My Dick And Tell Yo Bitch To Come Here". Have you no respect for an artist?

[WindupAtheist]

Anyone else think the War of the Worlds remake is gonna blow ass?  I was all hyped for a film authentic to the book (Victorian England vs Martian tripod walkers), but they're setting the remake in modern times.

Dumbasses, we already have that movie.  It's called Independence Day.

Ah, but Peter Jackson's King Kong remake is doing it right.  Unlike that shitty 70's remake, PJ is setting his in the 1930's, as the orignal was.  At the time it was current, obviously, but looking back, the time of the setting now seems vital to the sort of mythic atmosphere it had.

PS:  Chronicles of Riddick fucking owned, critics and box office be damned!

[Margalis]

But he was so good in Ghosts of Mars!

[stray]

Ok, I wasn't upset enough about the xxxxl comments in the other thread to say anything, but the fact that you guys think Ice Cube sucks?

I'm outraged.

I don't give a shit about this movie in particular, but damn, are there more than like 3 people on these boards who don't have an utter disdain for anything or anyone related to hip-hop?

[schild]

Ok, I wasn't upset enough about the xxxxl comments in the other thread to say anything, but the fact that you guys think Ice Cube sucks?

I'm outraged.

I don't give a shit about this movie in particular, but damn, are there more than like 3 people on these boards who don't have an utter disdain for anything or anyone related to hip-hop?

If it makes you feel better, Ice Cube didn't suck "back in the day."

[Ironwood]

Anyone else think the War of the Worlds remake is gonna blow ass?  I was all hyped for a film authentic to the book (Victorian England vs Martian tripod walkers), but they're setting the remake in modern times.

 

Yes, it's going to suck and Dakota won't save it.

It helps to realise that it's not a remake of the story, it's a remake of the old movie with the tri-eyed chaps.  It's going to be really, really bad.

On the other hand, there's an actual movie in production that's of the novel - the downside is that it looks really cheap and nasty.

[schild]

Dakota Fanning can save anything.

[HaemishM]

Ok, I wasn't upset enough about the xxxxl comments in the other thread to say anything, but the fact that you guys think Ice Cube sucks?

I'm outraged.

I don't give a shit about this movie in particular, but damn, are there more than like 3 people on these boards who don't have an utter disdain for anything or anyone related to hip-hop?

If it makes you feel better, Ice Cube didn't suck "back in the day."

He took a nose dive somewhere around the time he starred with J. Lo's ass and a giant, computer-generated reptile.

EDIT: Having seen the trailer, that looks like two pounds of monkey ass.

[Rasix]

If it makes you feel better, Stray, I'm a big Ice Cube fan.  I saw him live (with WC) and it was a pretty decent show.  I also enjoy any movie he happens to be in.  He's probably the only reason why I kept watching Anaconda after I heard Voight speak in that horrible contrived accent.

[MrHat]

I thought about this in the shower this morning. The Wonka thing bothers me for the same reason another remake bothers me.

The upcoming remake of The Pink Panther, starring Steve Martin as our favorite Inspector Clouseau. See, Martin is an accomplished comedic actor. He can do physical comedy. And there was nothing especially special about the Pink Panther movies themselves...

except for Peter Sellers.

Now maybe it's because I saw that wonderful little production "The Life of Death of Peter Sellers" on HBO recently, but I've had a rekindling of interest in Sellers lately. My wife has never seen one of his movies, so I'm Netflixing some of the better ones (Strangelove, the original PP).

The man was a fucking genius. He created Clouseau from mostly nothing, a bit part in a David Niven vehicle. It wasn't just speech, it was mannerisms, it was improvisation, it was just genius. Clouseau wasn't funny because he was written funny, he was funny because Peter Sellers inhabited that role. No one, and I mean NO ONE, could do the things he did with it without looking like a pale imitation. Throw in his performances in Lolita, Dr. Strangelove and Being There, and his genius just shines through.

Depp is a fantastic actor, with a wide range. And just like he did with Capt. Jack Sparrow, he can inhabit certain roles. I'd rather never see another Pirates film than see someone else play Sparrow, because it was that good a performance. And the sames goes for Gene Wilder as Wonka.

If the original movie were lost to the sands of time and never available to see, I'd say doing a remake homage would be great, because it's that good a story. But that isn't the case, which just means money grab, both for the Wonka movie and for the Pink Panther movie.

The Party

Definately worth a rent if you are a Sellers fan.  I used to watch him all the time as a kid over at my bud's house (his dad had ALL of Sellers movies).

"Birdie Num Num"

and

"Is that your dog? Does your dog bite?" in that hilarious french accent.  Oh man, Netflix here I come.

[Shockeye]

Lex and Lois are cast.

LOS ANGELES, California (Hollywood Reporter) -- Superman has found his Lois Lane and his Lex Luthor.

Kate Bosworth is in negotiations to play the Man of Steel's plucky fellow reporter, and Kevin Spacey is set to play the superhero's nemesis in Bryan Singer's Superman movie for Warner Bros. Pictures.

The comic book movie would reunite the two actors, who currently appear in Spacey's "Beyond the Sea" as Sandra Dee and Bobby Darin.

The casting of Lane was a long process that ultimately rested on a chemistry test between the actress and Brandon Routh, who is playing Superman, sources said. Bosworth reportedly beat out the likes of Claire Danes, Linda Cardellini and Michelle Monaghan.

Sources said Singer wanted Spacey early on but that the Oscar-winning actor's commitment to London's Old Vic Theatre, where he is artistic director, caused scheduling snafus on the road to making a deal.

Spacey, who is in rehearsals for "National Anthems" at the Old Vic, will do a limited run of "The Philadelphia Story" at the theater before moving to the Superman movie, which has a March start date.

I'm looking forward to Singer and Spacey working together again after "The Usual Suspects".

[WindupAtheist]

Willy Wonka sucks, m'kay?  Someone I know who was a big Marilyn Manson fan as an adolescent told me I had to see this with her.  I told her I was hoping her inner goth-child had died by now.  Tim Burton sucks too.  The first Batman was passable, the second was an ugly piece of shit.

[stray]

Too bad they made a less than inspired decision in casting Supes (I don't care to elaborate).

This movie will blow (literally).

[Shockeye]

Too bad they made a less than inspired decision in casting Supes (I don't care to elaborate).

This movie will blow (literally).

I'm sure you're referring to this.

How about we wait for the movie and see if his ACTING is any good, you bigot.

[stray]

Too bad they made a less than inspired decision in casting Supes (I don't care to elaborate).

This movie will blow (literally).

I'm sure you're referring to this.

How about we wait for the movie and see if his ACTING is any good, you bigot.

What? You want a hug from me too?

[WindupAtheist]

But the real question:  Does he kill Lex Luthor by shooting a gerbil at him from his ass at mach 17?

[HaemishM]

Kevin Spacey as Lex Luthor with Bryan Singer directing it will trump any gerbil ass expulsion the movie might suffer from.

[Dark Vengeance]

The first Batman was passable, the second was an ugly piece of shit.

The first Burton Batman flick was a fairly serious re-telling of the origin story, and was intended to be darker and decidedly non-campy, in stark contrast to the old Adam West Batman series.

Batman Returns started with the same kind of feel, though the kitty cat CPR on Michelle Pfieffer, as well as some of the over-the-top "let's make the penguin into an actual penguin-human mutant" stuff sucked ass. Plus, Michelle Pfieffer's catwoman is one of the only reasons to watch Returns today. Her skintight leather-clad catwoman became the new standard for the character, right up until Halle Berry took a steaming dump on it in 2004.

The same cannot be said for DeVito's Penguin....the costume, the penguin rocket launchers, the rubber ducky tank...that's what ruined the film, and seemingly inspired the campy tone of Batman Forever and Batman & Robin. Those two pungent piles of shit are barely even worthy of mention here.

I see Batman Begins as another shot at doing a serious take on Batman....albeit that we're back to the origin story again. Bale's Batman looks to be more in the vein Kilmer was shooting for.....to show the Dark Knight as a dark, brooding real person. Unfortunately, Kilmer's Batman was a bit wooden, and surrounded by unmitigated suck. In contrast, you had Clooney and Keaton, who were basically just a case of putting the actor into a suit and saying "OMG LOOK, IT R TEH BATMAN".

Bring the noise.
Cheers.............

[stray]

Aww, Keaton had his moments. Perhaps he wasn't a good Batman (that suit didn't help either), but I think he was the most believable Bruce Wayne.

EDIT: LOL. Lum's Law still applies, I see.

[Evil Elvis]

Does Sam Jackson read anything about the movies he signs onto nowadays besides the amount on the check, or what?  

And unless it's the sequal to Boondock Saints, Willem Dafoe needs to stay the fuck out of action films.

[HaemishM]

Does Sam Jackson read anything about the movies he signs onto nowadays besides the amount on the check, or what?

No, motherfucker, now where's my goddamn check? Do they speak English in what?

Sam Jackson said he would play Luke Skywalker's SLAVE just to be in a Star Wars movie. Whereas if you'd told him that he was being cast as a casting director on any other movie, he'd probably punch your lights out.

And unless it's the gay pr0n, Willem Dafoe needs to stay the fuck out of action films.

Fixed that for you.

[WayAbvPar]

Willem Dafoe is better off voice acting. I just can't stand looking at the guy.

[Dark Vengeance]

Willem Dafoe is better off voice acting. I just can't stand looking at the guy.

You of all people should know that NOBODY FUCKS WITH THE JESUS. Especially not Martin Scorsese's Jesus.

It's cool, Way, I'm on the motherfucker....just chill your ass out, and wait for the Judas who will be arriving directly.

Bring the noise.
Cheers............

[WayAbvPar]

You sendin' the Judas? Sheeeit, DV- that's all you had to say!

[Shockeye]

[schild]

NEW WALLPAPER!