Questing: I don't get it

[Merusk]

I agree, but who cares about battle masters anymore.  Queue-from-anywhere ftw.

[Nevermore]

I don't mind Undercity.  The capital city I hate the most is the Exodar.

[Lantyssa]

I have to zig-zag four times to reach anything on the outter ring, when a simple arch would let me get there in a quarter of the time.  Gods forbid you have to run from one Quarter to the opposing one.

[Selby]

Gods forbid you have to run from one Quarter to the opposing one.

Makes it harder to attack by Alliance and easier to defend by Horde.  Or so I was told when I first complained about it...

[K9]

Ironforge is definitely the best city; Darnassus is the worst

[bhodi]

Ironforge is definitely the best city; Darnassus is the worst

Exodar is the worst.

[Selby]

Exodar is the worst.

I agree, solely because you cannot fly to or from there like you can with Silvermoon.  What were they thinking?  It's a city absolutely no one would ever want to use unless a mage ports them to and from it!

[Vash]

Once you hit outlands/northrend and set your hearth to Shat/Dalaran I enjoy using Exodar as my go to place to do AH/Banking stuff, the bank and AH are as close in proximity as IF or SW but you have the whole city to yourself which is nice.  Plus on my space goat Exodar was one of my few exalted reps for quite a while and there is a vendor who can repair right next to you when you port in which is pretty handy.

[K9]

Exodar is the worst.

I agree, solely because you cannot fly to or from there like you can with Silvermoon.  What were they thinking?  It's a city absolutely no one would ever want to use unless a mage ports them to and from it!

Dranaei Shamans are the only people who have to suffer the Exodar; it really irks me that they couldn't place some shaman trainers in any of the other cities. The only reason I find Darnassus worse is because Darnassus is a nightmare to find stuff in, at least the Exodar layour is fairly simple.

[Merusk]

There's a trainer in Stormwind right outside the gate in the moat area.

[bhodi]

Exodar wouldn't be that bad if it was scaled to 50% of it's current size. You have to mount up to get ANYWHERE and even then, it's slowwww.

And yeah, them forcing it to be the only place for shaman trainers (and jewelcrafting!) makes me angry.

[dd0029]

There's also a shaman trainer in IF, Farseer Javad.  Farseer Umbrua is in Stormwind on a little island in the Valley of Heroes.

[K9]

There's a trainer in Stormwind right outside the gate in the moat area.

whaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa

dammit.

[Nevermore]

All you had to do was ask a guard.

[Lantyssa]

Makes it harder to attack by Alliance and easier to defend by Horde.  Or so I was told when I first complained about it...

So you're saying PvP hurts my enjoyment of a game yet again...?

Can't say I care, since my contribution to any PvP that takes place will be shaking my bunny-maker at the interlopers (got the Make Love, Not Warcraft on Sunday, so that's the extent of my needed PvP achievements).  Maybe they could put guards at a choke point if they were worried about defense.  Like the many gates and hallways leading to the entrance.  Problem solved.  I'm a tactical genius.

Can I have my tunnels now?

[bhodi]

Exodar is still the only place you can level up lower levels of jewelcrafting near an AH. :/

[Rasix]

Silvermoon is great for that Horde side.

I find myself still based out of Orgrimmar.  My friends were based out of TB, but I disliked where the port in from Dal dumped you off. Ditto for Silvermoon, plus there's elves and lot of annoying beggars.  UC is terrible for a low level (leveling a warlock atm) because of how long it takes to get to a Zepplin.

I would add a gigantic spiel about how I prefer WoW's advancement to what I've played in the past, but I think the discussion has moved on.  It can be improved, but in ways that take it even further away from the sit-n-pull dynamic of EQ/FFXI/generic DIKU.

[Ingmar]

I use Exodar for all my AHing. Dunno why, really, I just like it there.

[Lantyssa]

It's a pretty place, and if you have a fast mount and nowhere to be, it's good.

[Xanthippe]

I like the vibe there.

[Nevermore]

Like a mall in the middle of the day with no customers?

[Lantyssa]

I love malls when they're empty of people.

[Fordel]

Darnassus is worse then the Exodar. Easily. The Exodar is a near perfect auction hub alt town. Little lag, small distances between mailboxes and the AH/Bank.

Darnassus has roughly 2 mailboxes total, spread all the fuck over nowhere, with their AH being nearly as far as possible from the Bank.



The only people in Darnassus are low level NightElves, Mages that ported in to make Mooncloth and NE Druids using Moonglade as a ghetto hearth.

[Vash]

There's a moonwell in the park in SW for making mooncloth, no need to go all the way out to Darnassus for it.

[Fordel]

There's a moonwell in the park in SW for making mooncloth, no need to go all the way out to Darnassus for it.

The Mage Portal to Darnassus lands them pretty much INSIDE the Moonwell though. Never underestimate how lazy a mage is about traveling. Spoiled bastards.

[Sjofn]

We had a mage in our guild port from the Darnassus AH to Darnassus so he wouldn't have to walk from there to the moonwell. (It was Grath.)


EDIT: Also, y'all are crazy, Orgrimmar is BY FAR the shittiest capital. Trying to level blacksmithing or engineering there is way more annoying than it ever needs to be. ><

[Phred]

There's a trainer in Stormwind right outside the gate in the moat area.

whaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa

dammit.

He's been there since BC released.

[Lantyssa]

EDIT: Also, y'all are crazy, Orgrimmar is BY FAR the shittiest capital. Trying to level blacksmithing or engineering there is way more annoying than it ever needs to be. ><

Only if you're a blacksmith... which reminds me, it's easier to fly to the Crossroads then fly back than to forge in Orgrimmar.

[Fordel]

We had a mage in our guild port from the Darnassus AH to Darnassus so he wouldn't have to walk from there to the moonwell. (It was Grath.)


EDIT: Also, y'all are crazy, Orgrimmar is BY FAR the shittiest capital. Trying to level blacksmithing or engineering there is way more annoying than it ever needs to be. ><

Please, Daranssus is still missing A Forge. Or an Anvil. I forget which, since going their with one of my smiths/eng's is useless and pointless.

[pxib]

Yup, there's a forge but the anvil is across the sea with the dwarves in Auberdine. Also the blacksmithing, mining and engineering trainers. Which is, I suppose, because there's no ore on Teldrassil.

I was always a little frustrated that the Horde lacks a Stormwind equivalent where every class can train. Silvermoon is missing Shamans, Orgrimmar is missing Druids, as is the Undercity (plus Hunters and Shamans), and Thunder Bluff hasn't got Warlocks, Paladins, or Rogues.

[Lantyssa]

Silvermoon is also missing a Warrior trainer.

[Ingmar]

On the plus side, Thunder Bluff is brilliant for smithing, with the trainers and anvils right next to the Auctioneers and a mailbox quite close.

[Hindenburg]

TB is pretty awesome, save for trainers. Shame that no zeps pass there.

[Ashamanchill]

I'm going to toss in my three cents (have to factor for inflation) and agree with those that put forth ogrimmar.  Why is the AH right in the middle, yet all the crafting shit is at the ends of the fucking city.  The only reasonable thing is how when you port in from Shat or Dal you come at least close to the FPs.

Also I hate the stupid raw hide building look...always have.  Damn my friends for selecting horde.

[Fordel]

TB is pretty awesome, save for trainers. Shame that no zeps pass there.

They are apparently putting a zepp between TB and Ogrimmar now, or something.