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That may be the coolest game update thing I've ever seen.
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Prospero
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Samwise
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I've been hoping for a cloak that would let you stay still indefinitely for a while. This is excellent. I was also hoping they'd bring back the old Feign Death in some form. Having it drop a decoy corpse while you cloak is more than I'd dared to dream. Between all the spies and snipers I think it's going to be a great time to rack up some pyro and scout points. |
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schild
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holy shit
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Ookii
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is actually Trippy
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Goddamn spys! This will just make things worse.  |
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Prospero
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SO I assume the pocket watch is a pistol replacement, which makes the shield make much more sense; some spies won't have the revolver to just shoot you with. I'm curious to see how that all plays out.
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Christ that entire page is win.
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Samwise
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SO I assume the pocket watch is a pistol replacement
We already have some evidence of another pistol replacement (that ivory-handled gun in yesterday's sniper picture). I'd figure the pocket watch either goes in the "watch" slot like its name would suggest (meaning that there are two different watch replacements in one update, egad) or goes in the sapper slot for a spy whose goal is assassination rather than sabotage. (edit) As a watch replacement, I'd hazard a guess that as a balance to the awesome decoy ability it can't be activated manually, making it the ideal choice for a spy who wants to depend heavily on his disguise to get around but still have a chance to make it past spy checks alive. |
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So, pyro then? |
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Samwise
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I'm going to be playing a SHITLOAD of pyro and maybe scout for a week or so after this update comes out. It's going to be glorious. Also, it just occurred to me that watch unlocks won't give us new taunt animations.  (edit) Holy shit, looking at the picture I just realized that the pocket watch thing is a perfect counter to the Razorback. That's brilliant. |
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Strazos
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I understand the pyro, but why the desire to play scout so much? I mean, more than normal.
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Hindenburg
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Strong class against snipers and spys.
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Strazos
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How are they any stronger against spies? Am I forgetting something?
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Prospero
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They're hard to backstab since tend to be in constant motion, and they are hard to hit with the pistol because they are coke fiends.
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Samwise
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It's impossible to run up behind someone and backstab them if they run faster than you do. Also, the FAN is a great spy checker.  |
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Strazos
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Oh, roger. Thought I may have been forgetting some sort of special ability the scout had to detect spies or something.
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Kageru
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So a spy can stealth a distance, stay stealthed and regain energy, then move some more. I wasn't aware spy's needed to be more irritating, a really good one can already turn a battle almost single-handedly.
Great page though, no argument there. And if this means the bow and arrow idea was just a joke even better.
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Malakili
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Well played Valve, well played.
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Samwise
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So a spy can stealth a distance, stay stealthed and regain energy, then move some more.
That's not 100% clear. When they put out the mini-spy update they indicated that getting to a dispenser while cloaked would "regenerate" your cloak, but really it only regenerates your cloak as fast as it's being used, so the power level stays constant rather than going up or down. I'm guessing that holding still while cloaked with this new watch will have the same effect; your cloak won't wear off, but it won't charge back up either. We'll have to see. Great page though, no argument there. And if this means the bow and arrow idea was just a joke even better.
No, I think the sniper stuff was for real. Valve said earlier that they didn't want to put out a sniper update and have everyone running around as snipers, so their plan is to combine the sniper and spy updates together. |
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Soln
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nerf spiez
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That's not 100% clear. When they put out the mini-spy update they indicated that getting to a dispenser while cloaked would "regenerate" your cloak, but really it only regenerates your cloak as fast as it's being used, so the power level stays constant rather than going up or down. I'm guessing that holding still while cloaked with this new watch will have the same effect; your cloak won't wear off, but it won't charge back up either. We'll have to see.
That would be fantastically underpowered. What I think is far more likely is that standing still while stealthed gives you the normal, 30 seconds-until-full replenishment (won't be faster, because that would make the watch a clear upgrade). Even if I'm right, the tradeoffs are still interesting. I can still think of many scenarios where ammo is plentiful and the original watch would better serve. The new one seems to be aimed at those people who like to stealth to the attacking class's spawn and gank people as they come out the door (or, in a slightly more useful maneuver, to get to the spawn to take out the teleporters). I can see myself using both. |
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Kageru
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It will make playing as an engineer even more boring than it is now. If a spy can find a nice corner and "lurk" indefinitely every time you move, especially out of site of your gun, you risk insta-death from every corner. And as for chasing them down?
Going to be playing pyro / scout for a couple of weeks when this goes live though.
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Soln
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edit: meh
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Samwise
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Holy shit. Why is this not showing up on Steam? Early leak? |
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Prospero
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Apparently it keeps appearing and disappearing from the Valve YouTube site.
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Pure epic fucking epic win.
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The frightening thing is that a bow and arrow and the shield thing didn't seem out of place amongst the other post launch changes.
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Samwise
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I'm 90% certain the sniper update stuff is still on. Valve said a couple times before this that they wanted to try to combine class updates to prevent the "everyone's one class" problem.
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JWIV
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My god awesome.
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HaemishM
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Pure epic fucking epic win. Yeah, that. The pictures of the Scout's mother thing was just awesome slathered awesomesauce. |
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