Aion (Open Beta, Launch Day Info too!)

[DLRiley]

If it gets 500k subs I will laugh.

[Draegan]

Laugh at what/who?

[Koyasha]

From what I experienced in the chinese beta (not all that high of course), it's pretty standard quest/kill stuff with standard loot dropping variety and a reasonable advancement pace and very very pretty graphics that nevertheless manage to run extremely smoothly.  If the PvP doesn't suck (and it probably won't, we're basically talking about Lineage 3 here) it's going to get a decent number of subscribers.  I expect it to sell boxes as well as AoC or WAR did, and retain subscribers much better than either of them.  Six months in, half a million NA/EU would not surprise me one bit.  A million would to some degree, but it wouldn't floor me with astonishment, either.

[DLRiley]

Laugh at what/who?

At the 300k subs figure. There is no real reason why this game won't be moderately successful here.

[gryeyes]

At the 300k subs figure. There is no real reason why this game won't be moderately successful here.

Well at least we now know that even you don't bother paying attention to the shit you spew. Remember this statement and about 4 dozen similarly themed posts? Schizophrenic or just full of shit?

Oh please draegon, we all know Korean = Grindy Piece of Shit, and the guys who made Lineage 2, queen mother of grindy pieces of shit, also made Aion. What else am I'm going to expect of Aion till it launches? A fun game? Its like expecting Funcom not to screw over a mildly decent idea. Your just asking for it.

[DLRiley]

At the 300k subs figure. There is no real reason why this game won't be moderately successful here.

Well at least we now know that even you don't bother paying attention to the shit you spew. Remember this statement and about 4 dozen similarly themed posts? Schizophrenic or just full of shit?

Oh please draegon, we all know Korean = Grindy Piece of Shit, and the guys who made Lineage 2, queen mother of grindy pieces of shit, also made Aion. What else am I'm going to expect of Aion till it launches? A fun game? Its like expecting Funcom not to screw over a mildly decent idea. Your just asking for it.

I don't play WoW and I fully don't expect blizzard to not to make a grindy piece of shit if they decide to make an mmo. Will that mmo be very successful anyway? Yes, with or without my $15 a month. I have always said Aion will do moderately well in the west and has also said the game will be too grindy for me to even bother subbing once the free trial is over. So please do a better job of skimming through my post history.

[gryeyes]

So when you said.

I would be quite happy if Aion doesn't turn out to be grindy, maybe than I might feel happy to pay for an mmo instead of sick to my stomach. But I'll retain my "this is lineage 3 before lineage 3 is launched" stand point until someone makes it to the end game.

When lineage 1-2 had below 100k NA subscriptions what you meant was this game has no reason not to do well? 

[DLRiley]

So when you said.

I would be quite happy if Aion doesn't turn out to be grindy, maybe than I might feel happy to pay for an mmo instead of sick to my stomach. But I'll retain my "this is lineage 3 before lineage 3 is launched" stand point until someone makes it to the end game.

When lineage 1-2 had below 100k NA subscriptions what you meant was this game has no reason not to do well? 

Lineage 1-2 was unsuccessful because it managed to be too grindy, which is almost impossible, but they managed. I doubt that the devs learned there lesson due to the overwhelming love they get in asia, so there is no real reason why they would change their business model significantly even if they are serious about getting the NA market. However most people in NA will defend the need to have ball busting grind in the first place, so a game simply doing horrible in NA for the same reasons lineage 1-2 did, even if that game is just as grindy is simply catching lightning in a bottle. Aion is generic, pretty, and stable and doesn't look too geeky so the game will do moderately well regardless of how soul crushing it will probably be.

[gryeyes]

Lineage 1-2 was unsuccessful because it managed to be too grindy, which is almost impossible, but they managed. I doubt that the devs learned there lesson due to the overwhelming love they get in asia, so there is no real reason why they would change their business model significantly even if they are serious about getting the NA market. However most people in NA will defend the need to have ball busting grind in the first place, so a game simply doing horrible in NA for the same reasons lineage 1-2 did, even if that game is just as grindy is simply catching lightning in a bottle. Aion is generic, pretty, and stable and doesn't look too geeky so the game will do moderately well regardless of how soul crushing it will probably be.

Thanks for clarifying. 

[DLRiley]

Lol, all I'm saying is that bad games can make lots of money.

[Brogarn]

Lol, all I'm saying is that bad games can make lots of money.

Also, the sun is big and hot.

[Mrbloodworth]

Not if WAR can help it

Apparently WAR is F2P with an item shop in Asian regions.

[Kageru]

That's interesting... I wonder how they represent that in their subscriptions? If claiming 300k in their last report includes f2p registered players that would be a very poor showing, probably both for NA/Europe and interest in asia.

[Mrbloodworth]

I don't think it has launched in Korea yet.

[Yegolev]

That's interesting... I wonder how they represent that in their subscriptions?

Loudly, and with much gesticulation.

[Murgos]

*shrug* If it's a graphically improved WoW I'll pick it up for a month or two.  Probably the main reason I don't play WoW now is that I feel the character models look like something from 8 years ago.  Which they are.

[Tale]

I can't get the english patch into my Aion L10N folder for some reason. The data file is still compressed and it won't allow me to extract the files. Can anyone tell me what I need to do? I'm not a great pc whizz. Thanks alot

Gonna be Aion like a L10N in Zion.

Aion L10N Zion.

[waffel]

Is it still possible to test/beta/whatever this game for free in english?

[Mrbloodworth]

Don't think so.

[Koyasha]

I think the chinese billing system allows you to play for ~6 hours without paying.  At least I know I could play for several days after the beta ended, but my accounts kept expiring after six hours of playtime and I kept being able to create new accounts and play some more.

[Signe]

MMORPG.com is giving away weekend beta keys for the NA version right now.

[Hawkbit]

Gone before I got there.  :(  If anyone finds another source, lemme know please. 

[Lucas]

W00t, got a european beta key ;)

[antikennykiller]

when i download Data.z01 file i get a data.zip file whats up with that?? please help me:)

[Tarami]

W00t, got a european beta key ;)

Is there an NDA?

[schild]

We are NOT tech support.

[Tale]

vaan82 got tech support!

[schild]

vaan82?

[Tale]

vaan82?

Tale temporarily defeats Schild.

[schild]

I don't know where that quote came from. Stop making stuff up.

[Draegan]

I got an Aion NA beta key at gamestop and played around with the weekend beta event today.  Runs smoother than the COB.  I don't remember signing an NDA.

[Tarami]

If so, care telling us if there are any actual differences between the NA beta and the COB? To be specific, any "cultural adaptations" they said they were going to make.

[Koyasha]

I didn't really touch Elyos during the chinese that I played, so I can't compare directly.  I do notice the translation is questionable on occasion as there's sentences that are poorly phrased and that sort of thing, so either they've still got some work to do on it or it's not going to be particularly good a translation.  There's also one bug that comes directly from the translation file where a quest cannot be completed because the dialogue the NPC needs to give you to progress is missing.

I remained impressed with how well it runs, though.  Lag was nearly nonexistent (I only noticed it once) even in the starting area swarming with people, and with all options except anti-aliasing maxed, my FPS remained in the 30-45 range despite over a hundred characters on screen much of the time.

[Tale]

I got an Aion NA beta key at gamestop and played around with the weekend beta event today.  Runs smoother than the COB.  I don't remember signing an NDA.

Anyone who had a paid Tabula Rasa account when they announced its closure was invited to the Aion weekend beta. There was definitely an NDA when signing up for it that way. Not sure why though, because so much info on this game is coming out, unofficial gameplay videos are all over YouTube, and everybody's being positive about it.

[Ghambit]

I got an Aion NA beta key at gamestop and played around with the weekend beta event today.  Runs smoother than the COB.  I don't remember signing an NDA.

Is the game better than Chronicles of Spellborn?