TF2: God save the queen!

[Samwise]

So the assumption that Jarate replaces the kukri was wrong, but I wouldn't have guessed this: Jarate AND the Razorback use the SMG slot.

Maps

    * Added new map, Pipeline. Pipeline is the first map in a new game mode named payload race, which uses two carts in each map instead of only one like traditional payload maps
    * Added new arena map Sawmill
    * Added new arena map Nucleus
    * Added new community payload map Hoodoo


Sniper Changes

    * Added new sniper rifle replacement, The Huntsman. Instead of a sniper rifle, you have a bow that allows you to move around faster while firing, and fire more quickly than the sniper rifle. Works better at medium range than the standard rifle
    * Added new SMG replacement, Jarate. If thrown on an enemy they will take more damage for short period of time. Also extinguishes flames on yourself or allies
    * Added new SMG replacement, The Razorback. Will protect you against a single spy backstab, and stun the spy for a short period of time. Comes with a 15% move speed penalty for the wearer
    * Standard sniper rifle now shoots through friendly players
    * Added 54 new Sniper voice lines
    * Added 35 new Sniper achievements


Spy

    * Added new revolver replacement, The Ambassador. First shot is very accurate and will cause a critical hit if it hits an enemy's head. Accuracy is poor for a period after that
    * Added new watch replacement, the Dead Ringer. When armed, you will appear in all ways to die to the first damage you take from an enemy. You'll be cloaked for 8 second after taking this damage. Upon de-cloaking you'll make a loud, distinct sound
      Added new watch replacement, the Cloak and Dagger. Your cloak meter is only depleted when you move, so you can stay invisible indefinitely if you're standing still
    * Spy name tags now show up properly when disguised as their own team
    * Fixed a bug that would cause spectators to see disguise weapons incorrectly
    * Fixed a bug where enemy spies disguised as friendly spies would have cigarettes that didn't burn
    * Fixed a bug where overhealing disguised spies would show the wrong overhealing amount to the medic
    * Made it more obvious on first person view model when your motion cloak is out of juice and you are partially visible
    * Also made it more obvious on first person view model when you're bumped while cloaked
    * Improved the way your disguise weapon is determined to make it clearer and fix a couple of rare issues
    * Spies disguised as enemy spies now get a random mask to help complete the disguise, and their target id will be set appropriately
    * Spies disguised as medics now have an Ubercharge: line in their disguise target info
    * Spies outward facing "disguise health" now matches their disguise target when they first apply the disguise
    * Spies can now pick up health kits for their "disguise health", even when uninjured
    * Disguise UI doesn't show up in minimum UI mode (hud_minmode)
    * Spies that disguise as a player using an unlockable now show that unlockable in hand
    * Spies can now use enemy teleporters
    * Added 70 new Spy voice lines
    * Added 34 new Spy achievements


Scoreboard changes

    * Dominations no longer get wiped when teams switch sides
    * Dead players draw slightly darker in scoreboard
    * Converted class labels to class icons
    * All players now display the total number of people they are dominating


General

    * Fixed a bug that would cause the scout's ball to regenerate at inappropriate times
    * Demomen can now detonate their stickies while taunting
    * Flamethrower's air burst now extinguishes fire on friendly targets
    * Grenades and rockets deflected by a pyro under the effects of Kritzkrieg will now be criticals
    * The Heavy and Sniper now have new custom death animations
    * Fixed payload HUD not updating properly if you join in the middle of a match and the cart isn't moving
    * Engineer's dispensers now give 20%, 30%, or 40% of player's max_ammo (for each ammo type) on each use, based on the level of the dispenser
    * Added -sillygibs commandline parameter which will allow the non-violent gibs to be enabled
    * Added a new taunt for the Kritzkrieg, which also heals for 10 points
    * Improved the deathcam camera handling used when a player plays a custom death animation

[Samwise]

Holy shit it's like they've been reading my mind on some of these.  Especially the pyro airblast changes.   

[Triforcer]

Critical headshot with the ambassador plus perma invisibility?  Wow.  The spy has become what it most hated    I can't wait to play with that.  Won't that kill at least 4 or 5 classes in one shot?

Also, I am at work now...can anyone tell me if Samwise was right about the Cloak and Dagger (i.e., it doesn't go up when you are standing still, but only maintains the present spot on the cloak meter)?

[Malakili]

General
You now find new and old items as you play, instead of through achievements

[Triforcer]

This will make the really hardcore NERDRAGE, since its now possible they won't get all unlocks within a half hour on an achievement server 

[schild]

Added -sillygibs commandline parameter which will allow the non-violent gibs to be enabled

Most important thing here. This alone is probably going to make me reinstall it.

[Samwise]

Also, I am at work now...can anyone tell me if Samwise was right about the Cloak and Dagger (i.e., it doesn't go up when you are standing still, but only maintains the present spot on the cloak meter)?

Patch notes confirm it, I'm pretty sure:

Added new watch replacement, the Cloak and Dagger. Your cloak meter is only depleted when you move, so you can stay invisible indefinitely if you're standing still

[Strazos]

Good thing tomorrow is Friday, as this will give me plenty of time to play around.

Kind of a shame there's no kukri replacement.

[Samwise]

I'm kinda glad they've decided not every (melee) weapon needs an alternate.  There's only so much stuff you can do with melee in an FPS.

[Ookii]

Apparently pyros can light the huntsman's arrows on fire.

[schild]

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=15952096&postcount=1393

[Malakili]

Also, I am at work now...can anyone tell me if Samwise was right about the Cloak and Dagger (i.e., it doesn't go up when you are standing still, but only maintains the present spot on the cloak meter)?

Patch notes confirm it, I'm pretty sure:

Added new watch replacement, the Cloak and Dagger. Your cloak meter is only depleted when you move, so you can stay invisible indefinitely if you're standing still

I just "found" this item.

It RECHARGES while standing still.  I can confirm this from first hand experience.  The "downside" is that you can not get more stealth from metal pickups.

[schild]

If a spy has the ambassador out, don't backstab him. Crashes the game.

Or you could backstab him. To crash the game.

[Malakili]

So, realistically, this update is kind of annoying me so far.

"Finding" weapons seems totally random.  I can't say I really know what triggers someone finding something as you'll basically just be running around, and bam, you get something.   Apparently it is possible to find items you already have, also. 

I guess I don't like the fact that the random number generator is king here, it doesn't really make any sense, and knowing my luck, I'll never get the ones I want.

[Jobu]

General
You now find new and old items as you play, instead of through achievements

Is this dependant on the class your playing? Or it just randomly happens while you're playing whatever? I played for like an hour and have "found" nothing so far.

[Malakili]

General
You now find new and old items as you play, instead of through achievements

Is this dependant on the class your playing? Or it just randomly happens while you're playing whatever? I played for like an hour and have "found" nothing so far.

Seems totally random so far.  You can find any item playing any class from what I can tell, and you can find stuff you already have.

[Triforcer]

Also, I am at work now...can anyone tell me if Samwise was right about the Cloak and Dagger (i.e., it doesn't go up when you are standing still, but only maintains the present spot on the cloak meter)?

Patch notes confirm it, I'm pretty sure:

Added new watch replacement, the Cloak and Dagger. Your cloak meter is only depleted when you move, so you can stay invisible indefinitely if you're standing still

I just "found" this item.

It RECHARGES while standing still.  I can confirm this from first hand experience.  The "downside" is that you can not get more stealth from metal pickups.

   Wow.  That is unbelievably overpowered.  I'll have to play a lot this month before it is nerfed to slightly underpowered (no recharge).  Of course, it takes 3 seconds of recharge time to get 1 second of cloak back (assuming the recharge rate is the same as normal recharging) but still.

I can still think of a handful of situations where the original is better (defense of the second stage of goldrush 2, where there is a circuit of full ammo boxes in the stage 1 part that a good spy can just keep running around and getting, keeping a lot of people coming out of the spawn nervous) but I see myself using the C&D 80% of the time.  

[Jobu]

Seems totally random so far.  You can find any item playing any class from what I can tell, and you can find stuff you already have.

Yeah, so I "found" a backburner about 15 minutes after posting that. Except I already have the backburner. Now in my equipment loadout, I have two identical backburners. This isn't very well thought out, I think.

[Malakili]

Seems totally random so far.  You can find any item playing any class from what I can tell, and you can find stuff you already have.

Yeah, so I "found" a backburner about 15 minutes after posting that. Except I already have the backburner. Now in my equipment loadout, I have two identical backburners. This isn't very well thought out, I think.

Oh, its thought out.  Is teaching players to use their delete feature to keep bag space open.  Its a precursor to random loot drops and bag slot management.

[NiX]

Got the new watch. Haven't played with it. There are too many shitty spies and snipers. Unless you're eager to collect, I'd say wait this patch out a bit. Very annoying.

[Triforcer]

Word on the forums is that the ambassador is pretty worthless.  Always does 46 damage on a crit, no matter the range.  Its actually worse to headshot someone at point blank range than to bodyshot them. 

[Ingmar]

General
You now find new and old items as you play, instead of through achievements

Is this dependant on the class your playing? Or it just randomly happens while you're playing whatever? I played for like an hour and have "found" nothing so far.

Seems totally random so far.  You can find any item playing any class from what I can tell, and you can find stuff you already have.

You can still get items from achievements, if you are playing a class that has milestone achievements - I found the scout gun randomly playing my pyro, then got a 16th achievement and unlocked the backburner the normal way.

[FatuousTwat]

This will make the really hardcore NERDRAGE, since its now possible they won't get all unlocks within a half hour on an achievement server 

Actually, it seems like it would be faster to go onto an achievement server and just kill bots?

[Ookii]

This will make the really hardcore NERDRAGE, since its now possible they won't get all unlocks within a half hour on an achievement server 

Actually, it seems like it would be faster to go onto an achievement server and just kill bots?

Apparently you just need to be in the server, so a lot of people are logging in and going to sleep.  Of course they have scripts so they don't get kicked off for being AFK, you can do something as simple as +attack with the medic while being in spawn.

[Samwise]

Apparently you just need to be in the server, so a lot of people are logging in and going to sleep.  Of course they have scripts so they don't get kicked off for being AFK, you can do something as simple as +attack with the medic while being in spawn.

Obviously a vast improvement over doing achievements.   

[NiX]

Apparently you just need to be in the server, so a lot of people are logging in and going to sleep.  Of course they have scripts so they don't get kicked off for being AFK, you can do something as simple as +attack with the medic while being in spawn.

Does this mean you can get away with just hosting your own and staying logged in?

[Ookii]

Apparently you just need to be in the server, so a lot of people are logging in and going to sleep.  Of course they have scripts so they don't get kicked off for being AFK, you can do something as simple as +attack with the medic while being in spawn.

Does this mean you can get away with just hosting your own and staying logged in?

Trying it right now.   

[Thrawn]

We should do a F13 vs MnM scrim again for old times sake.  After the first time everyone hated each other and both sides thought the other were complete fags, good times.

[NiX]

We should do a F13 vs MnM scrim again for old times sake.  After the first time everyone hated each other and both sides thought the other were complete fags, good times.

It was good times. I was actually surprised at how much complaining F13 did about their own team. We're a bunch of pubbie cynics, what did you expect?

[Strazos]

I don't remember this complaining you speak of.

[Thrawn]

We should do a F13 vs MnM scrim again for old times sake.  After the first time everyone hated each other and both sides thought the other were complete fags, good times.

It was good times. I was actually surprised at how much complaining F13 did about their own team. We're a bunch of pubbie cynics, what did you expect?

I had a MNM guy bring it up to me today, we could probably get a match going if people were intrested in some more smack talking.  Maybe even pick up most of the original players from the last one from back in Nov 07 if we get lucky. 


*edit* Photo with roster attatched added!

[schild]

Yes. This would be worth a reinstall.

[Hoax]

I don't remember this complaining you speak of.

We did it behind your back, wonder why   

[gryeyes]

Has anyone ever experienced any BSOD activity with this game? I have just downloaded it for the first time and over a few day period of time ive crashed twice. I cant recall the last time my PC has done this.

[Kail]

Has anyone ever experienced any BSOD activity with this game? I have just downloaded it for the first time and over a few day period of time ive crashed twice. I cant recall the last time my PC has done this.

Now that you mention it, when downloading/installing the patch on thursday, it completely killed my hard drive.  Had to reformat it, it was ugly.  Though I'm not really sure it's because of the patch specifically.