Stargate Universe

[Draegan]

Being human is a story about three friends in their twenties who happen to be a ghost, a vampire and a werewolf?  How can that ever fail? 

You haven't seen the underworld movies, have you.

There were ghosts in that one?

[Sir T]

The ghosts were supplied by the audience jabbing knitting needles into their brain in order to ease the pain.

[Draegan]

The only thing I remember about those movies is Kate Beckinsale

[Sky]

The only thing I remember about those movies is Kate Beckinsale

She was so hot in the first one, and then I caught part of another one and she blimped her fucking lips. What a numb tart.

[Draegan]

She was in Whiteout though:

I'm turning this into a Kate Beckinsale thread.

[Sky]

Oh, it wasn't even Kate in the third one lulz

[lac]

The first episode of the second half of this last season aired yesterday on Syfy. It wasn't half bad either.

[Mrbloodworth]

No, I liked it, despite a few holes.

[Margalis]

I lurrve Kate Beckinsale.

I thought Underworld 1 was pretty good, then again I'm a sucker for that kind of movie.

Also how could you confuse Kate Beckinsale with Rhona Mitra?

[Lianka]

Wow.. they managed to even munge an episode with Rodney in it..

[Mrbloodworth]

I have no idea what you mean, I have been enjoying this season.

[Arthur_Parker]

Did it get any better?  I stopped watching when they cancelled it.

[Reg]

Meh, not really. I'm just watching because they got enough notice of the cancellation that they're making an attempt to tie up loose strings, and because I've watched all the other Stargate series so I might as well see all of this one as well.

[Soln]

it's bad when you can strip away every other narrative and the core story -- how do we get home -- doesn't even make sense.  Who are the Lucian Alliance?  How can they get on board (again)?  Why not put the Stargate outside?  All those plots of "stop the bad guys from getting in" was solved in mutliple SG-1 episodes.   Disappointed.

[Mrbloodworth]

it's bad when you can strip away every other narrative and the core story -- how do we get home -- doesn't even make sense.  Who are the Lucian Alliance?  How can they get on board (again)?  Why not put the Stargate outside?  All those plots of "stop the bad guys from getting in" was solved in mutliple SG-1 episodes.   Disappointed.

What?

Who are the Lucian Alliance?

    "They're a human coalition made up of various Milky Way planets formed in the power vacuum left behind by the Goa'uld. They're criminals, mostly... Street gangs with spaceships."
    —Nicholas Rush

How can they get on board (again)?

     They had an Icarus site. And Info from the brainwashed Colonel David Telford. They were the first group to even TRY to dial the 9th chevron.

Why not put the Stargate outside?
  
     What one are you talking about? Many have been distroyed over the years. I don't even believe earth has one anymore.


Some of this was defined in other series, some, in this one.

[Soln]

non-slap fight reply:  ultimately, this is just about personal taste.  But one question: Why is Destiny important again for the Alliance? 

[Mrbloodworth]

Arms race. To quote the stargate wiki:

The Lucian Alliance is a coalition of former smugglers and mercenaries who have banded together to take advantage of the power vacuum left by the demise of the Goa'uld Empire.

[Reg]

None of this explains why they can't just put a cover on the Stargate like they did starting in like episode 3 of the original series. 

[Der Helm]

None of this explains why they can't just put a cover on the Stargate like they did starting in like episode 3 of the original series. 

As far as I remember, the metal of that cover in the original series is far from trivial.

[Mrbloodworth]

None of this explains why they can't just put a cover on the Stargate like they did starting in like episode 3 of the original series.  

Cover what stargate? The one on the ship? Lucian Alliance is not attacking through the gate on earth, they are close enough to fly in and attack the planet. AFAIK.

Alpha (Movie) Gate is the only gate left on earth, Beta was destroyed.

[Merusk]

None of this explains why they can't just put a cover on the Stargate like they did starting in like episode 3 of the original series. 

As far as I remember, the metal of that cover in the original series is far from trivial.

In the movie it stopped working by being toppled over on its face and worked again by being lifted upright and assembled again.  Any "omg it has to be a special metal" that the series introduced just makes me feel better for not having watched any of them.

[Furiously]

None of this explains why they can't just put a cover on the Stargate like they did starting in like episode 3 of the original series.  

Cover what stargate? The one on the ship? Lucian Alliance is not attacking through the gate on earth, they are close enough to fly in and attack the planet. AFAIK.

Alpha (Movie) Gate is the only gate left on earth, Beta was destroyed.

Isn't the Pegasus gate currently on earth too?

[Mrbloodworth]

None of this explains why they can't just put a cover on the Stargate like they did starting in like episode 3 of the original series.  

Cover what stargate? The one on the ship? Lucian Alliance is not attacking through the gate on earth, they are close enough to fly in and attack the planet. AFAIK.

Alpha (Movie) Gate is the only gate left on earth, Beta was destroyed.

Isn't the Pegasus gate currently on earth too?

AFAIK, those gate types only exist in the Pegasus galaxy.

[Furiously]

Not when they plunged Atlantas into San Francicso bay... This is like the best nerd slap fight ever!!! Actually the thing I enjoyed most about stargate was what it said about humanity.  The Don Davis character as the general was all of us at our best. I can see why they were able to get a few actual air force members to put their faces on the show.  I think the joint chief of staff appeared once actually.

[Mrbloodworth]

See, I missed the last few seasons of Atlantis.

Also, I'm not fighting, I thought we were discussing cannon?  Just pointing out that some of his questions are covered in other shows. I personally like this show, originally I did not like the drama take, and missed the humor from other casts, but i do like the mystery around the ship and such, its a shame it is over.

[Furiously]

I'd agree sgu is a lot "darker" I hope they have a chance to fit in a fun episode before the end. It also hasn't really given the same message of "if we keep our principles and do the right thing everything will turn out ok."

[Lianka]

I have no idea what you mean, I have been enjoying this season.

Some episodes are good, some are bad, but that last one - why throw in the subplot about a place we've never heard of before (in this series, at least), who don't seem to fit into the getting them home overall plot? Was it to distract from the Rush schmoopy schmoopy scenes?

[Surlyboi]

Fuck me sideways, the latest episode was damned good.

If the writing and characterization had been of this caliber even half the time, the show wouldn't have been cancelled. Hell, even the plot device worked.

[Riggswolfe]

Fuck me sideways, the latest episode was damned good.

If the writing and characterization had been of this caliber even half the time, the show wouldn't have been cancelled. Hell, even the plot device worked.

I said something similar to my wife. I think what I said was "If they'd had these kinds of episodes from the start instead of the fucking 'I'm using the stones to talk to my wife about adultery' episodes this show wouldn't have been canceled!"

[Vaiti]

They really ramped up the quality of this show once it got canned.

[Tebonas]

Sounds like another Dollhouse endspurt to me. I guess I have to finish the season then. Thanks for the heads-up.

[Arthur_Parker]

Watched the last 4 episodes, still thought it was pretty bad.  Funny how they needed to introduce humans into the local area, you'd have thought someone would have pointed out how this would never work without them, before the pilot script was finalised.

[Sky]

The show had so much potential to be great. Rush's faction pushing to explore, the rest trying to get home. End the series with everyone dying off after having many adventures halfway across the universe with no human antagonists outside the cast. Final shot: Rush's skeleton in the observation room with Destiny continuing its journey.

This series sucked from the second they introduced those stupid stones and just went down from there. A few flashes of interest, but crushed beneath the weight of pointless, rambling incoherence.

[Arthur_Parker]

It just occurred to me that this was Asheron's Call 2 in space, no towns, no npc's and a real lack of content.

[Sky]

Because entire galaxies are completely devoid of any content.