Gran Torino

[Musashi]

I say again:  I would kill a man to be able to see The Good, the Bad, and the Ugly in a movie theater with a decent sound system....

The original Italian version or the English dub?  Because the dub's sound is basically horrible in all three movies.

[Johny Cee]

I say again:  I would kill a man to be able to see The Good, the Bad, and the Ugly in a movie theater with a decent sound system....

The original Italian version or the English dub?  Because the dub's sound is basically horrible in all three movies.

Don't care about the dialogue so much....  the score and music need to sound good.  The cinematography is the big reason for theater screen....  To see Tuco looking for the grave to the Ecstacy of Gold?  Yah.

Seeing The Good, the Bad, and the Ugly in a movie theater is what inspired Stephen King to write the gunslinger books.  That says quite a bit.

[Margalis]

Italians in that time period didn't record dialogue on set, every language version is dubbed.

[Tarami]

Well, depends on what you mean. Practically every film, save documentaries, is dubbed. Sound recorded on set rarely find its way to the master because it's full of background noise and not consistent enough to allow for editing.

[Margalis]

They didn't even mic the action in those movies.

[Tarami]

According to Bruno Heller on the Rome DVDs, Italians still don't... he mentions that they had trouble with Italian crew that would make a lot of noise while the camera was rolling, which disrupted the British actors who weren't used to it.

[stray]

Wow, this guy (Eastwood's character) is so much like my old man it was eerie. He's becoming more and more like him as he approaches the age of this character. Sort of ironic considering my mom is Asian.

I liked the girl actress in here, but it was never clear why she gave him such a pass. She saw him as a good guy for some reason.. I guess he turned out to be one, but it wasn't apparent until the end. I mean, I know the movie didn't mean it - but it kind of indirectly suggested that he was good because he was white or something. The shit he'd say was just as offensive as the blacks on the street corner or the Mexicans rolling around harassing that kid, or the Asian gangbangers. Yet, she gave him a pass, when in reality, he was a gigantic asshole "who used to stack gooks like you like sandbags". Probably the only reason he actually turned out OK was because of her friendship. He never would have done what he ended up doing otherwise.

[Teleku]

I thought it made sense.  She just saw him for what he was, and just accepted all the stupid racist shit as just how he talked.  I have similar relationships with older people back home (like my grandfather).  They say some of the most offensive shit in the world, and I just laugh and ignore it, because in the end I know these people are actually decent and don't hurt anybody.  They grew up in more racist times, and nothing going to change them at this point.  My grandfather will say some of the most homophobic shit to my uncles (his sons), two of whom are gay, and they'll both just laugh about it and insult him back.  Then he'll laugh about being insulted and grab another beer.  Things are obviously different when you know the person really is just a spiteful racist asshole who does want to cause harm.

Hell, she herself had an old racist grandmother around the house, so you know she she had a certain amount of empathy.  After they went to him to make amends for her brother trying to steal the car, she could empathize with his situation, and tried to reach out to him to be nice.  Whole situation seemed pretty real to me actually.

[stray]

Like I mentioned with my dad, he can be that way too, I guess (although not nearly as abrasive). But then again, he's my dad.. I know him well. If I was a stranger, I might be offended sometimes.. and certainly wouldn't reach out to him (he's got that same weary scowl Eastwood has. Heh ). Anyways, I guess I'll just chalk it up to the girl being a complex character herself.


Oh, and I love that scene with the black dudes. First, for Eastwood pulling out his finger and making a gun shape, and then for calling the white kid a pussy and not giving him a ride.

[stray]

Get Off My Lawn!, The Movie

I look forward to

Get Off My Lawn! 2: Pull Up Your Goddamn Pants

Hilarious

[Brogarn]

Finally saw this last night. The acting outside of Eastwood's was subpar at best but it just didn't matter because he was just so badass in it. Great movie that stands completely on his shoulders.