The thread wherein Windows 7 is discussed...

[rattran]

The .msi thing seems pretty widespread. I went to install something (foxit) to see if it worked on mine, and no dice, 'windows installer has stopped working'

Only problem I'm having is if Avast! is loaded, copying files from more than 1 location gives a bsod. Eminently repeatable, seems to be a conflict between avast and network drivers.
So, no cross copying, no problems.

[Viin]

The only thing I can't seem to get to install right now is freakin' Fireworks CS4. Damn it and I need that thing!

[Viin]

If you are having problems installing apps, try this:

Click the Start button , click All Programs, and then click Accessories.

Right-click Command Prompt, and then click Run as administrator.  In the User Account Control window, verify that Program name is Windows Command Processor, and then click Yes.

In the Administrator: Command Prompt window, type or paste the following text at the prompt:

reg delete HKLM\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\SQMClient\Windows\DisabledSessions /va /f

Press Enter to install the solution.

After doing this I was able to install Adobe Reader and Fireworks CS4.

[fuser]

If you are having problems installing apps, try this:

reg delete HKLM\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\SQMClient\Windows\DisabledSessions /va /f

We'll I be dammed. That fixed the MSI installer issues for me, thanks a lot!

[Big Gulp]

We'll I be dammed. That fixed the MSI installer issues for me, thanks a lot!

Same here.  Not just Adobe Reader, but a whole slew of installer problems.  Muchos gracias!

[NiX]

I don't know if this is isolated to EVGA, but the WDDM 1.1 drivers for the 9800GT cause random lockups and desktop artifacting. Seems the 181.20 drivers, which recognize windows 7, from Nvidias website have fixed the problem, but who knows, just might be a matter of time.

[Evil Elvis]

ATi cards have problems too.  The beta drivers that win7 comes with doesn't include the catalyst control panel or OpenGL 2.0 drivers (same as with nVidia's beta drivers I think... I know it doesn't come with the nVidia control panel).

There's a downloadable win7 beta driver pack you can download that installs the catalyst control panel, but it doesn't include OpenGL 2.0.  The only option is to install the current catalyst drivers.  However, the installer locks up for many people while detecting the video card.  You have to uninstall the beta drivers win7 installs, download a special driver uninstall program from ATi, delete any temporary files, and reboot your system.

Finally got the drivers installed, but it still doesn't play well with XBMC; it flickers like a motherfucker.  Had to go back to XP.

I also was unable to get an Airlink wireless card's driver to work.  It refused to activate the device even though it recognized the 64-bit driver; said it coudln't use the driver because it was unsigned =/  Luckily I knew it used the Atheros chipset, and I was able to use an included win7 driver to get it going.

[Viin]

ATi cards have problems too.  The beta drivers that win7 comes with doesn't include the catalyst control panel or OpenGL 2.0 drivers (same as with nVidia's beta drivers I think... I know it doesn't come with the nVidia control panel).

It doesn't?



This installed with the driver that Windows Update pulled, I didn't go looking for any beta driver pack ..

[Evil Elvis]

Nice.  I didn't notice the control panel link in any of the usual places when I tried it out on my nforce mobo.

Edit: And the beta driver pack I was talking about was for catalyst

[Big Gulp]

Nice.  I didn't notice the control panel link in any of the usual places when I tried it out on my nforce mobo.

Edit: And the beta driver pack I was talking about was for catalyst

I installed the standard Vista x64 drivers with Catalyst Control Center for the HD4850 and it went flawlessly.  Is it just the older cards that this is effecting?

[Evil Elvis]

Not everyone has problems installing the normal drivers, but enough people have had it happen to find multiple posts about it on different forums.  My mobo has an embedded 3200hd, so I can't really say.  I thought I saw a post from someone with a 48X0 having this problem, but I could be mistaken.

It might be based on the installer itself.  Were you using the ATi exe that unpacks itself before installing, or the the installer from your vid card manufacturer/cd?

[NiX]

Meant to post this earlier, but you can post any problems/questions here. A lot of the MS preferred beta testers go there and are doing their best to resolve issues for people.

Still trying to find out why my Habu keeps double clicking...

[Big Gulp]

Not everyone has problems installing the normal drivers, but enough people have had it happen to find multiple posts about it on different forums.  My mobo has an embedded 3200hd, so I can't really say.  I thought I saw a post from someone with a 48X0 having this problem, but I could be mistaken.

It might be based on the installer itself.  Were you using the ATi exe that unpacks itself before installing, or the the installer from your vid card manufacturer/cd?

The latest driver straight from ATI's site.  The installer didn't behave any differently than it did in Vista.

[NiX]

Bleh. Windows 7 crapped out with some "Fatal hardware error". Nothing in my computer is acting up, I don't think. I resolved the random lock-ups with artifacting, so I'm clueless. Had to format because it went into an infinite loop of BSODs about a registry error after rebooting from the hardware one. Unfortunately, Vista isn't fairing any better. I'm not posting in Safe Mode because trying to do anything for more than 15 minutes leads to a lock up and the hard drive thrashes itself non-stop. I can't figure out why.

[Viin]

sounds like my computer before I replaced the mobo. If vista and w7 are acting up it prolly is a hardware issue.

[Engels]

Time to test them memory sticks. Memtest86

[NiX]

W7 didn't start acting up until the 9800GT was put in. From looking around it seems a lot of EVGA models and Vista/W7 64 don't mix well. We'll see, doing a fresh install of Vista with SP1 pre-installed.

[Hawkbit]

Jackass MS decided to go with five or six versions of w7.... did they not look at any of the confusion about choosing Vista versions?

[Trippy]

Jackass MS decided to go with five or six versions of w7.... did they not look at any of the confusion about choosing Vista versions?

It's a little better now, even though there's still a bunch of different versions. For consumers it's back to the original days of XP with "Home" and "Professional" editions (there's no special XP-style "Media Center" version since that's part of both Home and Professional). The "Home Basic" version won't be available in your typical developed country so that won't be a choice for us anymore. Enterprise and Ultimate are mostly for BitLocker, their whole-drive encryption system.

The other change that reduces the confusion is that each version is (mostly) a superset of the version below it so you don't have the problem like in XP and Vista where if you want the Professional/Business features and also want the Media Center stuff you had to make some odd choices (XP you were screwed, Vista you had to go to Premium).

[Venkman]

So if this does in fact launch this year, and it is in fact nothing but a rebranding of Vista, is there any reason to go out and buy it?

[Big Gulp]

So if this does in fact launch this year, and it is in fact nothing but a rebranding of Vista, is there any reason to go out and buy it?

Have you even read the thread?

[Trippy]

So if this does in fact launch this year, and it is in fact nothing but a rebranding of Vista, is there any reason to go out and buy it?

If you are XP and don't need 64-bit then no.

[Yegolev]

Just tossing a log on the fire.  I assembled a new PC and 64-bit Catalyst for W7 Beta just flops on the hardware detection (4870) while the Vista 64 version works great.  Stupid ATi.

Otherwise it's fine so far.  Just been a few hours, though.  Failed to remember to order a wireless LAN card so I won't be able to give it a workout for a few more days.  So far, I like it.

[Big Gulp]

Just tossing a log on the fire.  I assembled a new PC and 64-bit Catalyst for W7 Beta just flops on the hardware detection (4870) while the Vista 64 version works great.  Stupid ATi.

Otherwise it's fine so far.  Just been a few hours, though.  Failed to remember to order a wireless LAN card so I won't be able to give it a workout for a few more days.  So far, I like it.

Have you tried running the driver install in Vista emulation mode with admin privileges?  That sorted out my problems with my 4850.

In fact, that's worked pretty much every time for any program that decided to be bitchy about it.

[Furiously]

I've read something about it doing horrid things to your sound card... Like making it so it can't record what it hears....

[KallDrexx]

I've read something about it doing horrid things to your sound card... Like making it so it can't record what it hears....

rofl.

Learn to read more than retarded bias on slashdot.

Or at least if you are going to get your information from slashdot, read the comments the next day (that almost all showed how bs that article was).

[Yegolev]

Just tossing a log on the fire.  I assembled a new PC and 64-bit Catalyst for W7 Beta just flops on the hardware detection (4870) while the Vista 64 version works great.  Stupid ATi.

Otherwise it's fine so far.  Just been a few hours, though.  Failed to remember to order a wireless LAN card so I won't be able to give it a workout for a few more days.  So far, I like it.

Have you tried running the driver install in Vista emulation mode with admin privileges?  That sorted out my problems with my 4850.

In fact, that's worked pretty much every time for any program that decided to be bitchy about it.

Have not tried, do not know how.  Yet.  Will report back.

[Big Gulp]

Have not tried, do not know how.  Yet.  Will report back.

Right click on the .exe and choose 'properties'.  Select the compatibility tab and set it for Vista x64.  Right click on the .exe again, and select 'Run as Administrator'.

[Yegolev]

I was not able to change it from Win XP SP2 for some reason, however it was apparently "blocked" due to being from The Internets.  I unblocked it and it ran fine.

Afterward, I installed some drivers and utilities from my ASUS CDROM and those worked great in Vista mode.  Setting execution properties on a binary on CDROM takes significantly longer, and caused my drive to make funny noises.  I reported that.

I think I am done installing things, other than the LotRO client.  The main purpose of this PC is to be a The Sims 3 terminal, and since that's not getting here until June-ish I will let my wife install most things.

Now I'm debating the merits and drawbacks of updating my own PC with it.

[NiX]

Once I figured out how to connect to the printers in my school, I couldn't find any other drawback to running Windows 7. It runs incredibly smooth, despite my laptop being a 2 year old business class model.

[Yegolev]

I count all this fiddling with binaries to get them to run business as a drawback.  I suppose that's usually a one-time, thing, though.

EDIT: I also dread the idea of reinstalling all of my apps after the upgrade.

[NiX]

Right now they're indexing all the install issues so that Windows detects a program/driver as being conflicted and automatically adjusts to it. Whether or not this will make it in the final release or if it'll work as intended has yet to be seen.

[Yegolev]

Anyone run into the "this version of Windows requires all drivers to be signed" situation?  Because that pisses me off a lot.

[tazelbain]

I heard W7 DRM'ed out the ass.

[Salamok]

I heard W7 DRM'ed out the ass.

no more so than vista:

http://arstechnica.com/microsoft/news/2009/02/oh-the-humanity-windows-7s-draconian-drm.ars

edit: don't let the link text fool you it is actually an article debunking the "windows-7s-draconian-drm"