Oscar Predictions

[Hoax]

I'd like to see Ledger be given credit for a great performance but Batman still wasn't that good of a movie.  I mean if Alfred had spelled out one more moral obvious moral dilemma through a boring stupid speech, if Morgan Freeman's whole character had sucked any more, if the Batman voice was a tiny bit more fucking annoying.  You see where I'm going with this?

Also WUA bashing Milk and Sean Penn, ya that is a total oscar movie, they only wanted to win an oscar, god you are a fucking maroon.

[Paelos]

I watched Dark Knight for the first time this weekend. Ledger's performance had me rolling at times, and completely uncomfortable at others. He also moves from being almost believable in his logical rants to randomly chaotic and homocidal. It was a great performance in my book. It was also the ONLY performance in my book. He was it. The rest of the characters were forgettable and boring. I didn't give a rat's ass about the Rachel character. Morgan Freeman did nothing. Alfred was too preachy. They also completely blew a great opportunity to do something meaningful with the two-face character. That never really fleshed itself out at all before the story abruptly stops.

Ledger stood out, and nobody else did at all. Also, Batman is not a grizzly bear. The decision to further alter his voice into a sub-human level was moronic, and that guy needs to be fired.

[Bzalthek]

The Dark Night and Heath Ledger does NOT deserve to be nominated for anything! Well maybe except for people's choice and MTV awards - thats what they are there for - to pander to public.

Really. If Heath Ledger did not OD conveniently before release, would it have had the big boxoffice and all the buzz on Ledger's performance? "Of the dead, nothing but good" - if Ledger was still alive, would the critics have been so kind on his performance? Frankly, Nutzoid psycho is so easy to do on screen. "Never go full retard"... In this case, Ledger went full psycho - his joker was utterly 2D - even the TV version was more interesting than his version of the Joker. I hated his performance, the movie, hate the public for obligingly providing the "sympathy" box-office boost for this movie and hate the critics that were too pussy to stand up and say his performance just plain sucked.

Who the heck says that the Osctards don't pander to the so called public tastes?
Case in point the 1998 academy awards:
How the f*** did Shakespeare in Love win FOUR major awards - best actress (Gwen, Kate Blanchett called - she wants her Oscar bacK), best supporting actress (Dame Judi Dench - less than 10 mins on screen? they gave you that Oscar for your other works - not in this movie), BEST F**K*** PICTURE? (against Saving Private Ryan and Elizabeth?)

Lost all respect after that, will go negative points if The Dark Knight gets nominated or even wins this year.

Frankly, these days - as awards shows go, I find the MTV movie awards a lot more entertaining.

I thought lead paint was banned.

[schild]

Heath just took the award in the golden globes. ^_^

[Trippy]

Old news (fucking tape delay).

[HaemishM]

If Heath Ledger did not OD conveniently before release, would it have had the big boxoffice and all the buzz on Ledger's performance?

Yes, now STFU.

[Mrbloodworth]

If Heath Ledger did not OD conveniently before release, would it have had the big boxoffice and all the buzz on Ledger's performance?

Yes, now STFU.

I agree, it was fantastic, and I think he may have redefined the joker with his performance, so much so...if this series continues. Do not expect a recasting. This may also be why they "killed off" Two face.

[Nebu]

Ledger was the bright spot in a shitty movie.  He deserves any and all awards for that performance.  It was brilliant. 

[Ingmar]

It is definitely a Supporting Actor role, though, not an Actor role.

[Velorath]

A lot of the smaller releases are finally starting to expand now.  Gran Torino went from 84 screens to 2808 this last weekend and took the #1 spot at the box office with close to $30 mil.  On the 23rd, Slumdog Millionaire goes up to about 1300 screens (currently on about 600) and the Wrestler expands to 400 (after expanding to 160 this Friday).

[schild]

It is definitely a Supporting Actor role, though, not an Actor role.

This decade's Hannibal Lecter.

[stray]

I don't know, sometimes you can have two leads. Both, say, Dicaprio and Hanks would be leads in Catch Me if You Can. Bloom and Depp in Pirates. Riggs and Murtaugh in the Lethal Weapon series. 

[schild]

I don't know, sometimes you can have two leads. Both, say, Dicaprio and Hanks would be leads in Catch Me if You Can. Bloom and Depp in Pirates. Riggs and Murtaugh in the Lethal Weapon series. 

Ensemble casts make everyone a supporting actor. When they split people into lead and supporting, it's because they wanted more than one person from a film to win an award.

[stray]

I know what you're saying.. One example that comes to mind recently is Penn and Robbins (Mystic River) Their parts are almost identical in screen time and dramatic importance.. Yet, Robbins is supporting actor. Then they both win.

Back to DK, there isn't anyone else in the Dark Knight who really has a chance to win a lead award other than Ledger... So if he's going to get categorized as anything, it'll be Best Actor or nothing (I do think Eckhart was pretty good too, but he's outshined by Ledger... Or at least, his character is.. and even if he was recognized for some kind of running... which he won't be.. it'd definitely be a supporting role).

[DraconianOne]

I know what you're saying.. One example that comes to mind recently is Penn and Robbins (Mystic River) Their parts are almost identical in screen time and dramatic importance.. Yet, Robbins is supporting actor. Then they both win.

Back to DK, there isn't anyone else in the Dark Knight who really has a chance to win a lead award other than Ledger... So if he's going to get categorized as anything, it'll be Best Actor or nothing (I do think Eckhart was pretty good too, but he's outshined by Ledger... Or at least, his character is.. and even if he was recognized for some kind of running... which he won't be.. it'd definitely be a supporting role).

Don't think it matters. His role was a supporting role to Bale's eponymous Dark Knight so he'd get the supporting actor nomination by virtue of that and not because Bale didn't get nominated himself.

[stray]

Daniel Day Lewis was nominated for Best Actor in Gangs of NY... he was playing second fiddle to Dicaprio. Same case here, I think? Maybe if you're a big plot moving villain, then you're a lead too.

[Velorath]

Nominations should be up in a few hours (5:30AM PST).

[DraconianOne]

Daniel Day Lewis was nominated for Best Actor in Gangs of NY... he was playing second fiddle to Dicaprio. Same case here, I think? Maybe if you're a big plot moving villain, then you're a lead too.

Sad as I am, I just checked the rules on this. It seems that an actor can be put forward for both Best Actor and Best Supporting Actor for the same role but can only be nominated for one of the awards for that role and that's determined by whichever category they get the most votes for.   But I've also read that, due the Academy rules, Kate Winslet is only eligible for Best Supporting Actress for The Reader so I might have to delve further.

[Trippy]

Nominations:

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