Festivus '08: It's that time again.

[Lantyssa]

Yeah, that might help.  At least until I realize I'm proper fucked.

I [fucking] hate (and love) you English language.

[Phildo]

My overpriced education at a school that summarily kicked me to the curb once they were done taking my checks.

[JWIV]

Can't list the good without the hate.

I hate that I was lied to about a variety of very significant things by a person I knew for almost a decade that has now left the area (and getting professional help, which is good, but I never want to fucking talk to him again).

I hate that after going through almost a decade of layoffs in various companies, my current company seems to think it can improve its stock price (it's already profitable damn it) by doing layoffs.

I hate having to go into the office at all since I can do 100% of my job from home.

[Broughden]

I have a new one fresh from today...

You FUCKING SHITTY ASS LITTLE FUCKIGN BALL OF FUR FUCKING ARRRRRGGGGGHHHHH KITTEN! FUCK YOU!

I swear on all that is holy that despite whatever my wife's feelings on the subject may be...even if I have to use pliers, a drimmel tool and a fucking blow torch...that kitten will get declawed!

We adopted/bought a puppy and kitty (tonkinese) both on Halloween night. Took puppy for a walk today. Came home to find that his little preciousness had ruined the decorative pillow and $400 duvet on the guest bed! Combined they were worth more than his over priced little ass was!

And NO Im not living in a house with doors shut because God forbid the kitty might do something destructive.


Say good bye to the front claws you little fucking demon of destruction! Any way look on the brightside....had this been my new leather couch or leather mission chairs you would be dead already and daddy would have a small new fur throw rug. 

[Signe]

Addendum to my hate list:

Broughden

[schild]

Addendum to my hate list:

Broughden

Not only does what he types border on "full retard" sometimes, he also can't control (and as a result is mean to) kitties. I don't blame you.

[Engels]

Ya, really. Expensive furniture and cats ....not going to have a happy ending.

[Trippy]

[apocrypha]

De-clawing cats is animal cruelty, full stop.

Keep the claws trimmed, sure, but you have to do it regularly. But if you do a full de-claw then you are not fit to own an animal. If you find a "vet" who will de-claw a cat for you then they are not a proper vet.

If you cannot trim your cats claws regularly, or go through the hassle of training them to use a scratching post, or cope with the damage they will do with untrimmed claws then you should not have a cat. Get a fucking goldfish.

[Raging Turtle]

Re: Kitty claws - there are little rubber 'claw gloves' you can buy that slip right over the individual claws - you might have to add a little glue, I forget.  I had an ex who used them on her cat to great success.  They fall off now and then as the claws grow, but they're not hard to put on. 

That said, calling declawing animal cruelty while spaying and neutering animals is so widespread and accepted always struck me as odd. 

[schild]

That said, calling declawing animal cruelty while spaying and neutering animals is so widespread and accepted always struck me as odd.

I wasn't aware anyone was even talking about spaying or neutering. Or are you trying to get everyone's opinion on that.

[Raging Turtle]

You're right that he didn't mention it, and maybe he thinks spaying/neutering is cruel as well, but they're both common vetrinary surgical procedures used for behavior modication (and to stop the preggers, obviously), with the big difference being that one is widely reviled and the other is thought of as being standard or even responsible.  Most animal shelters won't let you take a cat or dog home unless you get it snipped, but somehow removing the first knuckle is horrible and evil.       

I don't like it myself since there are good alternatives, but if you have a cat that's going to live its whole life indoors, I'm not going to call you a terrible person for doing it.

[apocrypha]

Spaying & neutering don't cause long lasting pain, plus they spare female cats from the unpleasantness of cat sex (they have barbed willies!) and the risks of pregnancy. But yes, point taken about behavioral modification to ease domestication, and I accept I may have some double standards going on there.

Apparently the little rubber claw covers work really well but getting them on can be... tricky 

/derail ?

[Lantyssa]

They can use lasers now to greatly ease the pain and recovery of declawing.  I'm still not sure I like it, but it's not quite as barbaric as the old procedure.

Oh yes.  I fucking hate hypocrites.

[Broughden]

They can use lasers now to greatly ease the pain and recovery of declawing.  I'm still not sure I like it, but it's not quite as barbaric as the old procedure.

Oh yes.  I fucking hate hypocrites.

A) Yes the local animal hospital uses lasers. They dont remove the lowest knuckle. They just kill the nail bed with the laser. No bleeding and no pain due to nerves being cauterized. In fact if you wait till 16 weeks they will do that and spay/neuter your kitty at the same time. 

B) I bought and applied the rubber claw tips last night. Kitty squirmed but being a Tonkinese he likes being handled unlike some other cat breeds. We will see how they work. If not then beginning of Jan when kitty hits 16+ weeks its nip (genitals) and tuck (claws) time.


And in keeping with the theme of the thread....I HATE the fact that the entire airline system right now is proper fucked and my wife who was supposed to be home from NYC this morning is stuck in LaGuardia getting bumped from flight to another to another to another. Fuck! Seriously. Its like the whole airline system is run by a malicious tribe of garden gnomes!

[Nevermore]

I'm no fan of the airlines, but I'm thinking the snowstorm that hit NYC just might have had something to do with the cancellations yesterday.

[apocrypha]

They can use lasers now to greatly ease the pain and recovery of declawing.  I'm still not sure I like it, but it's not quite as barbaric as the old procedure.

Oh yes.  I fucking hate hypocrites.

A) Yes the local animal hospital uses lasers. They dont remove the lowest knuckle. They just kill the nail bed with the laser. No bleeding and no pain due to nerves being cauterized. In fact if you wait till 16 weeks they will do that and spay/neuter your kitty at the same time. 

B) I bought and applied the rubber claw tips last night. Kitty squirmed but being a Tonkinese he likes being handled unlike some other cat breeds. We will see how they work. If not then beginning of Jan when kitty hits 16+ weeks its nip (genitals) and tuck (claws) time.

OK, I've learned something today then, yet again. Sorry for my earlier outraged tone! 

[Strazos]

I fucking hate people that Try Too Fucking Hard to be soooo fucking dark and hate Everything.

I hate when I work with incompetent chimps. How many times do I have to explain how to fill out a simple form, or how to identify certain documents? It's not that fucking hard. Maybe you should ask a question once in a while, damn fucktard.

I hate that managers thinking that the lot of us each doing the work of two people is just fine and dandy and almost expected.

I hate that I have to restrain myself from bitching out people in other departments because they are fucking retards who are completely unable to write in anything even vaguely resembling proper English. And who also cannot do their own jobs properly to save their own lives.

I hate people who feel safer in SUVs. And who must drive with their high beams on at all times...thanks for blinding me, fuckers.

[Raging Turtle]

OK, I've learned something today then, yet again. Sorry for my earlier outraged tone! 

It's too late now.  You must either cut off your fingers past the first knuckle or get yourself snipped. 

[FatuousTwat]

This is my opinion on pet modification, if you disagree, feel free to enlighten me.

There is no alternative to "snipping" your cat if you want to allow it outside, but there are numerous alternatives to declawing. Also, what if your cat gets attacked outside, and needs to climb a tree/fight whatever is attacking it off? It's gonna be pretty fucked without claws.

Now, back to the show.


I fucking hate that I can't think of anything to hate except for the fact that I hate that I can't remember what to hate except for the fact that I hate that I can't remember what to hate except for the fact that I hate that I can't remember what to hate except for the fact that I hate that I can't remember what to hate except for the fact that I hate that I can't remember what to hate except for the fact that I hate that I can't remember what to hate except for the fact that I hate that I can't remember what to hate except for the fact hhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh

[Soln]

here we go (denial, chemicals and being with my family atm have blunted my memory):

*CDN govnt, CDN taxes
*gaming bloggers
*disingenuous self-promoters masking their self-interest by feigning to be authentic, to be just "like everybody else" (see gaming bloggers)
*WAR for sucking up all the air
*people who bought stuff they could never, ever afford and ruined it for the rest of us
*bankers
*regulators
*the people who were supposed to be regulating the regulators of the bankers
*MSNBC, FOX, CNN and CBC commentators who will dumb down anything if it is a) complex, and/or b) scarry
*the woman who lives next door to us and won't stfu

[apocrypha]

OK, I've learned something today then, yet again. Sorry for my earlier outraged tone! 

It's too late now.  You must either cut off your fingers past the first knuckle or get yourself snipped. 

How about we take my inability to fuck due ot back injury for the last 4 months into consideration and consider my sentence already served? 

[Ironwood]

Christmas.

No, not reaching to be the ultimate douchebag.  Not trying to impress with the range of my dislike.

But Christmas;  I hate what it's become.  I really hate what it's become for me and my family.  I eagerly await Elena growing up to the stage where she puts some of the magic back for her parents.

[Wasted]

I hate that Dell includes a media player with their systems that requires you to reformat the whole fucking drive should it become corrupt.  I hate also that I was too cheap to buy another Blu-Ray media player software when said Dell Media Direct became corrupted on my laptop.

I hate people that bitch about how much they hate the government and this and that but don't do anything at all to change it, I hate myself a lot too.

I hate the current love for mash-ups on my radio station now, Its fucking Jive Bunny all over again now.

I hate thats is so goddam hard to buy food that isn't chokful of flavours and shit that turn your brain into a sponge, I hate the fact that we let companies make this shit and sell it and fill up supermarkets with it and then blame the consumer for making poor lifestyle choices when they can't even sell fucking fruit juice without additional flavours.

[WayAbvPar]

After the past week or so, snow has crept up to nearly the top of my list. Grrrrrr.

[Sky]

I love winter and snow, but even I'm getting close. We'll see how the new roof rake works. Actually, I still love the winter and snow, it's just shovelling the roof that I dislike thus far.

[Signe]

I haven't skied in ages so what good is snow?  No good, that's what!  Just an inconvenience. 

[Fargull]

Hmm.. my feeling of hate has diminished greatly, probably due to all the positive this year.  Right now, about the only thing that drives me bonkers are people with intolerant views.

[Signe]

You just have that freshly married no worries idyllic blush.  Wait until she starts stealing your socks!  (shh.  Righ still doesn't know it's me)

[Jimbo]

I don't really hate, but it seems like most of my ex-girl friends end up like Puddle of Mudd's "She fucking hates me" or Buckcherry's "Crazy Bitch" or Offsprings "Why don't you get a job", or if I'm lucky, like Sam's "Wild Thing".  Psycho bitches...I'm attracted to them.

I hate that 1 to 2% of patients are the true "welfare queens and kings" and end up souring all of my co-workers where they hate the idea of socializing medicine.

[Samwise]

My grievance is that every year Schildy McGrinchypants insists on taking the Christmas out of the Christmas tradition I invented, goddammit.   

[FatuousTwat]

I don't really know where else to post this, but I feel the need to vent, but I can't with my normal people because they are involved.

This is probably the worst Christmas I've ever had, and it isn't even the day yet. I already said that my mom's car had gotten broken into, and that pretty much crushed my Christmas spirit right there. Then I find out that my mother and stepfather might be getting a divorce, but have decided to "keep it together" through the holidays, which just fucking sucks(and I live with them, weee), and now the weather has made it impossible for my sister to show up, oh and I can't get my shopping done for the same reason.

I really feel like shit.

[Signe]

Holidays are stressful for a lot of people so maybe they'll sort things out after Christmas is over.  I hope it gets better.  Sorry for buggering up the thread with good will.

[Engels]

the current US government for most things foreign and domestic
the US people who voted for the aforementioned govt
the dumbass fundamentalists, both islamic, jewish and christian
people who still think greed is good
people who still believe in the 'rugged individual'
people who were hippies in the 60s, yuppies in the 80s, just because all they wanted to do was fit in
fuck them hard with a sun-dried tomato
the disenfranchisement of sun-dried tomato growers everwhere




finally, Seattle officials who won't buy snow removal equipment.

[Signe]

Wait.  You can grow tomatoes that are already sun dried?