Punisher

[LK]

Stephenson made a great Punisher, but I felt insulted that they took interesting characters from the comic and transplanted them into this movie as a hollow shell of the awesomeness of their comic book forms.

Case in point: Pittsy. Jesus.

[stray]

I actually thought Jigsaw and the bad guys were the worst parts of it. His portrayal of Jigsaw felt like Garth Ennis writing Tommy Lee Jones as Two-Face. The plot also veered into nonsense territory when he recruited all the racial stereotypes to be his soldiers.

Hrm.. I know you're the one decent white guy in Mississippi and all, but it's OK to laugh at racial stereotypes. 

[LK]

I don't think Garth Ennis had anything to do with writing the script other than creating all the minor characters, as the level of suck would have been that much less. So I'll understand if you meant Jigsaw was played like Tommy Lee Jones did Two-Face.

[HaemishM]

Except Tommy Lee Jones didn't play Two-Face with profanity and mayhem. Jigsaw had all the mayhem, gore and profanity that Garth Ennis writes, but without his talent, i.e. Jones' Two-Face.

As for the racial stereotypes, they weren't even funny. They were just blatant stereotypical gangsters from various races thrown in because we need a giant gun battle with billions of faceless fuckers for Castle to kill in the climax, but our villains have lost all their henchmen to the first mass death scene we ran 5 minutes into the movie.

[Hindenburg]

They were just blatant stereotypical gangsters from various races

TBH, most gangsters are blatant stereotypes IRL.

[stray]

Except Tommy Lee Jones didn't play Two-Face with profanity and mayhem. Jigsaw had all the mayhem, gore and profanity that Garth Ennis writes, but without his talent, i.e. Jones' Two-Face.

As for the racial stereotypes, they weren't even funny. They were just blatant stereotypical gangsters from various races thrown in because we need a giant gun battle with billions of faceless fuckers for Castle to kill in the climax, but our villains have lost all their henchmen to the first mass death scene we ran 5 minutes into the movie.

Dominic West is just as good an actor as Tommy Lee Jones. I don't wtf you guys are on. Watch the Wire.

Jigsaw is a character to have fun with, and I think he did it well. Very much in the spirit of Ennis' writing, which is about as about as ridiculous carictured and campy as it gets. Not high art folks. Not his Punisher stuff or Preacher.

[justdave]

Am I alone in liking the first one?

Thomas Jane

Does not compute.

[LK]

Forgive him for he knows not what he says.

First one I liked though it didn't have the Punisher grit.

[justdave]

I don't think it's possible to make a gritty film with Dolph in it. Now, if that had been Kurt Russel...that could have been good times.