SOE adds item shop to EQ, EQ2

[Nebu]

I don't really see what the big deal is.  If people want to spend more money to get more stuff faster, that's fine with me.  It's a PvE game... the only person I'm competing with is myself.  If they start doing this kind of stuff in games with a significant pvp component, then I could understand the outrage a bit more.  The key here is to make the pricing scheme VERY clear to the paying customer.  You get one service at rate A and additional services at rate B.  Seems to me like they are just creating an a la carte menu.  In the future, this model will be more successful if players know what the pricing is from the start.  Adding it midstream is likely the crux of the issue.  It creates an aura of "bait and switch". 

IMO the stuff being sold just doesn't really matter enough to cause the nerd rage. 

[Murgos]

IMO the stuff being sold just doesn't really matter enough to cause the nerd rage. 

Remember these are the same people who say their achievements are 'trivialized' every time a new expansion is released.  Their self-worth is intimately entwined with how long they cat-assed to get the +1 sword of foozle whacking, heaven forbid a random drop in the new area is more effective than their 3 week grind reward.

[Arthur_Parker]

They are selling 2x exp potions that last for a few hours right?  I don't play SOE games and I don't see anything on the horizon that change will that, but making some cash seems like a good reason to keep grindy gameplay to me, (not that anyone needed a good reason before).

[Venkman]

Remember these are the same people who say their achievements are 'trivialized' every time a new expansion is released.  Their self-worth is intimately entwined with how long they cat-assed to get the +1 sword of foozle whacking, heaven forbid a random drop in the new area is more effective than their 3 week grind reward.

Right. Which is the reason you only see the legacy non-frontrunners doing this. In the four years of everybody talking about, and almost everyone playing, WoW, whoever's still playing older games are so very much there to stay. So the risk of them quiting over something like this is actually less.

[Numtini]

They are selling 2x exp potions that last for a few hours right?

For $10 you get 2 hours of +50%xp, which doesn't stack with other potions, and applies only to kills which are about 1/3rd to 1/2 of your XP.

Those will fly off the shelves I'm sure.

[Engels]

Ok, that is total fail. If you're going to make an unpopular move, at least do it right.

[Venkman]

Geez yea. MTX only works when people want the extra.

But again. SOE. This is the company that charged $14.99/mo for Planetside. Check your shock and expectations at the door.

[Drubear]

Ok, that is total fail. If you're going to make an unpopular move, at least do it right.

And over on Tobold's blog there are people reporting that the potion doesn't survive the death penalty. So you may be out of your purchase even faster than the listed expiration limit.

[Trippy]

Working as intended

[shiznitz]

They are selling 2x exp potions that last for a few hours right?

For $10 you get 2 hours of +50%xp, which doesn't stack with other potions, and applies only to kills which are about 1/3rd to 1/2 of your XP.

If quest exp doesn't get the bonus than they are a total waste.

[Numtini]

They are a total waste :) If they were a buck each for the 50%, they'd be sort of ok if you were really really working on grinding an alt for raiding or something like that.

I still have a couple of the vet reward ones kicking around. Since they don't do much for soloing, you try to save them for Really Good Groups who you think are going to last a few hours and I found few enough of those that I hit 80 without using all of the ones I had available.

[Merusk]

The incredibly stupid cost, duration and loss on death won't stop them from selling.  I know this as sure as the Bengals and Lions still have season ticket holders who say to themselves, "No, I shouldn't give up the seat license, they'll do good next year."

[Woody]

The incredibly stupid cost, duration and loss on death won't stop them from selling.  I know this as sure as the Bengals and Lions still have season ticket holders who say to themselves, "No, I shouldn't give up the seat license, they'll do good next year."

I had that exact discussion with my friends who've had season tickets going on 20 years at the last Lions game.  Maybe I should go buy EQII and empty my bank account buying rmt crap from Smedley.

[kERRA]

I'm all for it as long as they add grow/shrink potions that stack with other size alteration effects.  Waddling around Freeport as a 20 foot burynai is 

[sinij]

UO added all this shit years ago (decorative items, characters pre-built to 80% skill, etc.) and nobody inside or out of the game really gave a fuck.

This is because nobody gives a fuck about UO in general. Well maybe you do, but then you are not normal in any definition of the word.

[sinij]

I'm all for it as long as they add grow/shrink potions that stack with other size alteration effects.  Waddling around Freeport as a 20 foot burynai is 

I am calling out PR shill and asking for account ban.

[Venkman]

OMG WoW is dying and evil they're charging $15 for character recustomizaton!

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Yes, I know it's here too. No, not everyone here goes there. And yes, I didn't check there before posting here because I just got it barked at me in the WoW launcher

[WindupAtheist]

arf

Did Trammel really hurt your asshole THAT much? The length of time you've been chasing me around this forum saying stupid shit like this has now lasted longer than the entire pre-Trammel existence of UO. All the other howling butthurt ex-PKs settled into Eve and finally shut the fuck up years ago. What's your damage?

[Mrbloodworth]

I'm not outraged about this but I hope lots of other people are, hopefully outraged enough to hit cancel.

Not sure why you are outraged, did you look at the items they are offering?

[kERRA]

I'm all for it as long as they add grow/shrink potions that stack with other size alteration effects.  Waddling around Freeport as a 20 foot burynai is 

I am calling out PR shill and asking for account ban.

Yes, my post in the bad design thread just screams SOE fangirl.  Clearly I am being paid phat stacks.

[Mrbloodworth]

I'm all for it as long as they add grow/shrink potions that stack with other size alteration effects.  Waddling around Freeport as a 20 foot burynai is 

I am calling out PR shill and asking for account ban.

Yes, my post in the bad design thread just screams SOE fangirl.  Clearly I am being paid phat stacks.

I think that was a joke, welcome to f13.

[kERRA]

I think that was a joke, welcome to f13.

He's a former UO PK and thus not to be trusted   

[WindupAtheist]

He's a former UO PK slobbering dipshit and thus not to be trusted   

Fixed.

[kERRA]

He's a former UO PK slobbering dipshit and thus not to be trusted   

Fixed.

I haven't forgiven his ilk for cleaning out my Baja two-story.  FUCK YOU, SINIJ.

[kERRA]

P.S. John Smedley paid for my last car.

[Tale]

You get royalties for the use of your isle/moon?

[sinij]

I haven't forgiven his ilk for cleaning out my Baja two-story.  FUCK YOU, SINIJ.

I had to chop up your furniture because I couldn't carry all of it.

[sinij]

Rang Rang

In all seriousness UO at this point irrelevant for the industry. They can do pretty much anything and it will be dismissed as rigor mortis.

[Arthur_Parker]

I'm not outraged about this but I hope lots of other people are, hopefully outraged enough to hit cancel.

Not sure why you are outraged, did you look at the items they are offering?

note the not.

[kERRA]

I had to chop up your furniture because I couldn't carry all of it.

Bank-ganking me for my key?  Smashing dozens of hours of decorating work into kindling?  Running off with all my rare knick-knacks including an event-dyed table from the first week of release?

All this I could forgive, but you bastards killed Donny.

Donny was possibly the last of the original tame-able human NPCs.  I rescued him by stabling him during the purge of his kind and every subsequent world reset.  He survived in our house for months as the Omega Mensch - my guild's mascot and Man Friday, unswervingly loyal to me and to his beloved fishcakes until I recalled home to find little piles of wood in place of his chair and dresser.

I choose to believe that Trammel was birthed by Donny's spirit whispering vengeance into the developers' ears, and that when it arrived he drank in every one of your sweet, delicious tears from his place in the digital ether.

[Rake]

I don't understand how your story of what sounds like a really great time in UO got into a thread about SoE and the SADIM touch.

[Triforcer]

I had to chop up your furniture because I couldn't carry all of it.

Bank-ganking me for my key?  Smashing dozens of hours of decorating work into kindling?  Running off with all my rare knick-knacks including an event-dyed table from the first week of release?

All this I could forgive, but you bastards killed Donny.

Donny was possibly the last of the original tame-able human NPCs.  I rescued him by stabling him during the purge of his kind and every subsequent world reset.  He survived in our house for months as the Omega Mensch - my guild's mascot and Man Friday, unswervingly loyal to me and to his beloved fishcakes until I recalled home to find little piles of wood in place of his chair and dresser.

I choose to believe that Trammel was birthed by Donny's spirit whispering vengeance into the developers' ears, and that when it arrived he drank in every one of your sweet, delicious tears from his place in the digital ether.

So what you did was exploiting, and what Sinij did was (at the time) legal.  How is he the bad guy again?

[kERRA]

So what you did was exploiting, and what Sinij did was (at the time) legal.  How is he the bad guy again?

Tell that to Donny, Mr legal beagle.  The killers got the keys via exploit so we're all sinners, but they're the ones who cut down an innocent man. 

I don't understand how your story of what sounds like a really great time in UO got into a thread about SoE and the SADIM touch.

It's meta-commentary on the irrelevance of rmt flavor items and crappy potions.  Or it's a meandering derail.  Either way, I blame Sinij.

[schild]

Did I just walk into a nearly decade old RPG grudge? What the hell?

[Triforcer]

kERRA is the kind of person who would have filled a barrel with water.  How can I ever agree with someone that vile?

And also, I think its much more likely you had your key stolen and don't want to admit it.  I stole more housekeys than I can count- a minimum amount of bank security would've solved your problem.