Lost [FINALE SPOILERS PAGE 25 ONWARDS]

[Teleku]

Eh, I still like most all the Characters who are left.  They've killed off everybody I didn't like at this point (except Bernard and Rose, but they've disappeared thankfully).  Only Character I don't really like is Juliet.  Character is just... boring/shallow to me.  Don't like all the screen time they're giving her.

Having said all that, this season still kicks ass and I've enjoyed every episode so far.  Love all the information they're giving away.  Though I'm a bit aggravated that nobody is asking WHAT THE FUCK IS THE DHARMA INITIATIVE UP TO.  Sawyer and all of them seem to be aware of everything that's going on, with all the crazy ass science experiments they built, yet none of the new people back seem to be asking them ANYTHING.

[Ozzu]

I think Jack would have eventually gotten to the question of just what is the DI doing on the island if Sawyer wouldn't have chewed him and spit him out. 

[Morfiend]

On the topic of characters. I think the guy playing Ben is amazing. The writers couldnt have pulled off a lot of the wacky shit they did with out the actor of Ben being completely believable in his bullshit. He does creepy so well, and yet can still seem like your friend.

I like Juliet a lot.

Jack from season 1 and 2 wasnt bad, but then they kind of turned him in to a steriotype of himself. Same with Kate, both of them are just annoying now.

I will echo the awesomeness of Hurley's "ummm wut" comment.

[Teleku]

I think Jack would have eventually gotten to the question of just what is the DI doing on the island if Sawyer wouldn't have chewed him and spit him out. 

One thing I liked about that whole exchange was at the end.  Jack with his "Hey, yeah, your right, it DOES feel good to not to be the one under pressure to save everybody's ass yet again" comment and smile, and Sawyer looking on at his retreating form with the "Well shit" look.

I also liked how somebody finally just said fuck it and smashed Ben over the head instead of listening to him.

[Soln]

I will echo the awesomeness of Hurley's "ummm wut" comment.

the writer's seem to often use Hurley as the explanation vehicle for the audience.  I like the way they do it; namely, he's not dumb -- he asks questions exactly in the manner the audience would ask.

[Paelos]

Ok thank god, something finally happened tonight. Good episode! 

[Ozzu]

Ok thank god, something finally happened tonight. Good episode! 

I enjoyed it. It appears they're going to start doing flashbacks to explain how some of them came to be on the plane. I believe next week is going to explain the Kate and Aaron thing and why she decided to go back to the island.

[kaid]

Good try sayid but unfortunately as ben found out if the island does not want something to happen it probably will fix itself.

[MrHat]

Good try sayid but unfortunately as ben found out if the island does not want something to happen it probably will fix itself.

I thought that too.  But is this the first real instance of the 6 explicitly doing something that has ramifications on the future?  First time the show is going to try and explain the whole time paradox thing?

[Johny Cee]

Good try sayid but unfortunately as ben found out if the island does not want something to happen it probably will fix itself.

I thought that too.  But is this the first real instance of the 6 explicitly doing something that has ramifications on the future?  First time the show is going to try and explain the whole time paradox thing?

Farraday and Desmond.  Desmond didn't remember until later.  Farraday tried to warn Charlotte (whose full name was Charlotte S Lewis) not to return to the island,  which didn't take either.

Farraday, and his mother, have pretty explicitly stated that you can't change the past.  Most probably, Sayid is going to find out his actions are entirely futile to serve as more fuel for him moping around.

[tazelbain]

Great, now the show has to start over from the beginning to show what things would be like without Ben. 

Sayid can't kill Ben until Locke comes to the Island.  If anything Sayid helped Ben cement his position with the others.

[Johny Cee]

Great, now the show has to start over from the beginning to show what things would be like without Ben. 

Sayid can't kill Ben until Locke comes to the Island.  If anything Sayid helped Ben cement his position with the others.

Either:

A. Young Ben survives,  and it's Sayid's shooting him that turns him into the full blown sociopath we know and love.
B. The island brings him back, and sociopath etc etc.
C. Old Ben Linus has no relation to young Ben Linus....  Ben Linus is just an identity he adopted to weasel into Dharma.  Which would mean Sayid killed an innocent kid.

Spoiler from popular media on this season and finale, do not read if you want to maintain your sanity and enjoyment, etc:



Also:

How many people loved seeing Larry (from Larry, Darryl and Darryl in Newhart;  otherwise known as the innkeeper guy from Deadwood; or the Joker's right hand man in the original Batman movie) as the Dharma interrogator? 

[Merusk]

Gah, thank you. I wondered why the hell he looked so familiar.

[Johny Cee]

Gah, thank you. I wondered why the hell he looked so familiar.

EB Farnum.  Gah, had to look it up.

[Tebonas]

So that really was Sanderson? Those glasses threw me off, but the voice was quite familiar.

Superb episode. Though I didn't get why Sawyer didn't say Sayid was one of his crew from the shipwreck, you know the people they supposedy stayed on the Island for.


Edit: That =/= Those

[Reg]

He might have done that if Sayid had shown up a few years earlier but explaining where he's been for the last three years would be pretty tough.

[Tebonas]

I'd use "Being a prisoner of the Hostiles and finally being able to escape. Thats why his hands are bound together".

[Nevermore]

How many people loved seeing Larry (from Larry, Darryl and Darryl in Newhart;  otherwise known as the innkeeper guy from Deadwood; or the Joker's right hand man in the original Batman movie) as the Dharma interrogator? 

William Sanderson.  I remember him from Blade Runner.  Got the voice right away.

[Johny Cee]

I'd use "Being a prisoner of the Hostiles and finally being able to escape. Thats why his hands are bound together".

Why did Jin bring him in as a hostile then, if Jin was on the boat with Sayid?  It also exposes Juliet, Sawyer, and Jin to danger if something goes wrong with that cover story.

Look at the way Sawyer added Jack, Hurley, and Kate to the submarine list:  If one gets exposed, it's difficult to trace it back to the three that have been in Dharma for the last three years, unless the exposed person rolls.

A big part of this is Sawyer has taken over being the boss from Jack, and he's going to fuck up.  He's going to drop the ball, make quick decisions that backfire, and get people pissed at the way he's handling things.  Just like Jack.

[Johny Cee]

How many people loved seeing Larry (from Larry, Darryl and Darryl in Newhart;  otherwise known as the innkeeper guy from Deadwood; or the Joker's right hand man in the original Batman movie) as the Dharma interrogator? 

William Sanderson.  I remember him from Blade Runner.  Got the voice right away.

I've got to say that the Lost showrunners do an amazing job of getting actors for supporting roles.  More times than with any other TV series I've had to go find out where I know a guest star from. 

Every time I see Charles Whitmore I'm convinced the showrunners wanted Malcolm Mcdowell but couldn't land him for some reason.

[Lucas]

Alan Dale (Charles Widmore) is really a superb actor, the best of the show along with Michael Emerson; both have quite a long experience in theatre, and you can notice it when they cast a spell out their lines. Actually, every time Alan Dale speaks, it sounds like he's playing a role on a theatre stage more than in front of a TV camera, but I love it, it is not overly exaggerated (and the directors are probably encouraging him to continue acting that way).

[Ozzu]

Really good episode tonight. A couple of thoughts:

I'm not a huge Kate fan, but I thought her having to leave Aaron was pretty damn emotional.

Adult Ben waking up to see John Locke sitting right next to him was just priceless. 

Hurley asking all the time travel questions that we all wanna know and the expressions he gives when he gets the explanations from Miles? Good stuff.

[Evil Elvis]

Next week's episode looks

[Quinton]

This season continues to be made of pure awesome.

Hurly and Miles arguing about time travel was great.

"Hello, Ben.  Welcome back to the land of the living."

[Samwise]

I loved Miles's "...huh.  I never thought of that."  Also his subsequent "hey, ask me more questions about time travel!"

So Ben is a twisted fucker because Sayid shot him because he'd grow up to be a twisted fucker and so Richard saves his life while somehow turning him into a twisted fucker?  That sounds about right.

[Teleku]

Well, its very interesting to see that there is some sort of transformation process involved in becoming an actual other.  Explaining why they all have freaky jungle super powers and are completely committed to the cause (what ever the fuck that may be).  Probably should have guessed it after what happened to the French.

Now, I'm happy that they have an explanation for Ben not remembering Sayid (that was bugging me as well).  However, that still doesn't explain why he wouldn't remember any of the other Oceanic people he lived with for 3 freak'in years.  Particularly Sawyer, who was a major figure in the Dharma initiative. 

Good episode overall though.  Next weeks does look awesome.

[tazelbain]

Maybe that's what the whole "get their names" thing was from when they crashed.
If there is an Other transformation process why didn't they do it to Locke?
I don't like the "Ben won't remember" bit.  It seems much, much cooler that Ben remembers and instead of being upset, he ambitious enough to use a person like Sayid to his advantage.

[Samwise]

A whole lot of the "wtf" shit that happened in the first couple of seasons can be explained pretty readily by the Others having met these people in the past but being cagey enough not to admit to it.  I think the writers are doing a pretty good job here of sewing up loose ends.

[EWSpider]

Maybe that's what the whole "get their names" thing was from when they crashed.
If there is an Other transformation process why didn't they do it to Locke?
I don't like the "Ben won't remember" bit.  It seems much, much cooler that Ben remembers and instead of being upset, he ambitious enough to use a person like Sayid to his advantage.

Locke had to murder his own father (or at least be responsible for it indirectly) to be accepted by the Others.  Perhaps Ben wasn't officially accepted until he wiped out the Dharma Initiative.  There's probably more to it than that, but those were my first thoughts.

[Samwise]

Locke had to murder his own father (or at least be responsible for it indirectly) to be accepted by the Others.  Perhaps Ben wasn't officially accepted until he wiped out the Dharma Initiative.

Which just happened to include his own father.   

[Nevermore]

The Others: We have daddy issues!

[EWSpider]

The Others: We have daddy issues!

Hmm, come to think of it...who on the show does NOT have daddy issues?  Almost everyone on the show has this in common if you think about it.

[Merusk]

Maybe that's what the whole "get their names" thing was from when they crashed.
If there is an Other transformation process why didn't they do it to Locke?
I don't like the "Ben won't remember" bit.  It seems much, much cooler that Ben remembers and instead of being upset, he ambitious enough to use a person like Sayid to his advantage.

Yeah, this would have been the much cooler move, IMO, not to mention completely in character for Ben.  That he HAD known and not said anything would have been much, much more Machiavellian and calculated.

[Soln]

so where's Faraday?  we saw him in the pilot helping to build the Orchid.  He's kind of important to the whole time travel thingy...

yeah, the Hurley/Miles dialogue is great -- "let's now take questions from the viewers!".  And then they explain some of it via Richard same episode.

[EWSpider]

Faraday hitched a sub back to the mainland to start experimenting with time travel on rats.