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Threash
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There are a lot of characters but they all fit right. I don't know how to explain it any better than that, the story just evolves in a way that more characters are not only necessary but welcome and interesting.
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NO SPOILERS Video interview with the lovely Emilia Clarke (Daenerys): Link
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Rendakor
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Book 4 introduces a bunch of new POVs, the lion's share about which almost no one gives a shit. It is kind of a grind to read through some of them (doing it now for the 2nd time).
I'm just starting Book 4 for the first time and I'm beginning to notice this. I hope Book 5 does not have this problem, since it should be the other half of the characters, right? Is he continuing to separate each book into halves going forward, or is Book 6 going to cover everyone again?
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Merusk
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Depends on how it comes out as he's writing it, I suppose. Initially 4 & 5 were to be one book, but when he hit over 1.1k pages the publisher was freaking. It's not an easy task to bind books that large.
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murdoc
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Book 4 introduces a bunch of new POVs, the lion's share about which almost no one gives a shit. It is kind of a grind to read through some of them (doing it now for the 2nd time).
I'm just starting Book 4 for the first time and I'm beginning to notice this. I hope Book 5 does not have this problem, since it should be the other half of the characters, right? Is he continuing to separate each book into halves going forward, or is Book 6 going to cover everyone again? According to GRRM Back when I split A FEAST FOR CROWS into two books, I said in my infamous afterword, "Meanwhile, Back at the Wall..." that Tyrion, Dany, and Jon Snow would be back in the next book, and so they are. Those three characters dominate A DANCE WITH DRAGONS. Out of 73 chapters, 35 concern their exploits; sixteen viewpoints, aye, but just three of them make up almost half of the book.
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Rendakor
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Yea, I know that much. I was wondering if he was going to continue to alternate characters like this going forward.
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Ruvaldt
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Like Merusk said, it was done previously for editing purposes and due to the fact that some PoVs were complete while others weren't.
There are only supposed to be two more books though so it would be difficult to split them again. Having two books which both end the series but are released years apart would kill the narrative by spoiling the ending in advance.
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I forgot where I read it, but I did see that GRRM confirmed that book 6 would bring everybody back together again, and not be split.
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Threash
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He says a lot of things.
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Arthur_Parker
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There was a time they had maybe one great scene an episode that made it worth watching, episode 9 had three, the reveal of Aemon Targaryen, Tyrion's marriage story and the Baelor statue scene at the end.
Edit doh, fixed thanks Abagadro
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« Last Edit: June 13, 2011, 03:09:32 AM by Arthur_Parker »
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Threash
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Such a great episode. The complete omission of any battle scenes is slightly worrying though. If you are a non book reader and regular internet user who made it this far without being spoilered: congratulations.
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harmonicker
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Such a great episode. The complete omission of any battle scenes is slightly worrying though. If you are a non book reader and regular internet user who made it this far without being spoilered: congratulations.
That episode was the sex. Also, while I skim this thread, I just scroll "lalalalalalala" in large font across my corneas.
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There was a time they had maybe one great scene an episode that made it worth watching, episode 8 had three, the reveal of Aemon Targaryen, Tyrion's marriage story and the Baelor statue scene at the end.
This was episode 9 which unfortunately means it is season finale next week.
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Merusk
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Ahh, I didn't know what everyone meant by the Baelor statue and I just Googled to discover. Apparently some folks WERE surprised. Also, my search gave me this gem to add to the collective lexicon: * HBO's habit of livening up the history lesson with a few randomly inserted porn scenes spawned a brand new word, "sexposition."
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Threash
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Such a great episode. The complete omission of any battle scenes is slightly worrying though. If you are a non book reader and regular internet user who made it this far without being spoilered: congratulations.
That episode was the sex. Also, while I skim this thread, I just scroll "lalalalalalala" in large font across my corneas. Oh, i didn't mean here. Nobody here would spoil something like that. The IMDB forums are full of spoilers though, usually on the thread titles.
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Very well done with the scene at the Sept of Baelor. I obviously knew what was coming and still found myself very emotionally involved in the scene. Great writing/acting/directing/filming.
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Threash
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I thought Ned seeing Arya and sending Yoren to get her was a nice touch and an improvement over the book, kind of a last good bye act.
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Rasix
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It was the only way to do it, I think. Yoren hasn't been really well established yet, and his character is different somewhat from the book. What they did fits well with what they have.
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I still laugh out loud every time I think of this video hours after having watched it. Hilarious.
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I knew last night had to be That Episode because a bunch of people in my WoW guild were all:
WHO HERE WATCHES GAME OF THRONES WHAT THE FUCK GUYS SERIOUSLY WHO DOES THAT
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Ceryse
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Haven't read the books and actually have managed to stay un-spoiled on the show. Last episode didn't really surprise me, I mean.. the events are fairly obvious, I thought. Don't know how so many seemed to be surprised at 'that' scene, I figured something like that would happen as soon as the King made his offer at Winterfell. Most of the big events so far have been like that; obvious a mile away.
Enjoying the show.. generally in spite of several characters/actors (all of which are still alive). Hopefully season 2 has a better budget, though.
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Threash
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I gotta admit it was a bit more obvious on the show than in the book. In the book it was already known that Jamie was captured and that Ned would likely be traded for him, the killing came completely out of nowhere.
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Teleku
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Yeah, the show didn't do as good of a job hiding it. There was a lot of build up to how he was going to be sent to the wall instead during the book. When I first read the book, I was under the impression Ned was basically the main character whom the series would revolve around (as most standard fantasy books would do), so him continuing in exile at the wall with his Bastard son would make sense. That was a good dose wtf when that happened.
Still, Sean Bean was probably the most famous actor on the show, and playing the most major role, so I can imagine it surprised people just for that.
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« Last Edit: June 13, 2011, 03:34:34 PM by Teleku »
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"My great-grandfather did not travel across four thousand miles of the Atlantic Ocean to see this nation overrun by immigrants. He did it because he killed a man back in Ireland. That's the rumor." -Stephen Colbert
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I had several friends message me on IM today with almost the exact same message.
"Game of Thrones. WTF"
I havent watched last nights episode, but knew what was coming.
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Quinton
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Need to catch the latest episode, but yes, my two minor complaints with how the show has handled the Ned plotline would be: - less buildup of the expectation that he'd be allowed to take the black (which the book did a good bit of) - ignoring the bit where Sansa effectively sells them out by going to Cersei when she's upset that Ned's sending them back to Winterfell
Though the handling of Sansa being bullied by Cersei and the small council to write the letter to Rob, etc, seemed very well handled.
Overall, they seem to just keep raising the bar. I continue to enjoy the ride.
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Shae (Sibel Kekilli) has some RL surprises for you guys if you do the research. Enjoy! I recommend cocoa butter or sunflower oil.  ....wow.
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Quinton
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They managed to muster a goodly number of people for the crowd scenes in episode 9. Very nice episode -- well executed. Lots of little, well-done pieces too, like Maester Aemon's answer to Jon.
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There was a time they had maybe one great scene an episode that made it worth watching, episode 9 had three, the reveal of Aemon Targaryen, Tyrion's marriage story and the Baelor statue scene at the end. OTOH episode 8 had about 100 great scenes. To me as I haven't read the books, episode 9 felt rather slow after the swift changes throughout episode 8.
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Quinton
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Wow. The reactions from people who have never read the books (mostly in other, more 'mainstream' forums) is a bit crazy in places.
I mean, I was pretty shocked when it happened in the first book, but it more or less completely sold me on the series -- goddamn this is not yet another run of the mill fantasy story and major characters are not necessarily safe.
Will be interesting to see if it actually drives away some of the audience or it just pulls them further in after they digest things a bit...
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Merusk
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It's exactly what I was expecting.
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Apart from liking Tyrion a lot, I seem to remember the 1st book being pretty standard stuff, well written sure but I sort of knew what to expect. Then it just goes off the rails and I remember rereading a few pages, because I wasn't sure what to think any more.
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