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Merusk
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Basically, the guys on the wall are the expendable people at this point. Any training they get comes from those knights or nobles who are sent to the wall to get them out of the way. As Threash said, Winter hasn't been around for so long that -as with all fantasy- the big baddie's been forgotten and turned into nothing more than scary tales to those in the South. The real elite fighters are used for the political maneuverings and wars in the South. Only the Starks maintain any semblance of wariness about the crap North of the wall.
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Viin
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At this point in the story, I think it's 3 out of 20 keeps are currently manned on the Wall? And those 3 aren't "full strength" either.
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Basically, the guys on the wall are the expendable people at this point. Any training they get comes from those knights or nobles who are sent to the wall to get them out of the way. As Threash said, Winter hasn't been around for so long that -as with all fantasy- the big baddie's been forgotten and turned into nothing more than scary tales to those in the South. The real elite fighters are used for the political maneuverings and wars in the South. Only the Starks maintain any semblance of wariness about the crap North of the wall.
Correction, winter does come every few years, Tyrion mentioned he'd seen seven on the show i believe. What hasn't been around are the white walkers, which are said to show up during the long winter. |
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Bob, regarding Cersei:
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Bob, regarding Cersei:
Spoiler contains comments from book 2 fyi. |
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Bob, regarding Cersei:
Spoiler contains comments from book 2 fyi. |
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Aez
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Random question : would reading the first 3 books give me a complete trilogy with decent closure or does every book leads to the next and you can't get any closure because the last books are not written?
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Random question : would reading the first 3 book give me a complete trilogy with decent closure or does every book leads to the next and you can't get any closure because the last books are not written?
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Yeah, its not a trilogy. Each book picks up after the last, so you'd need to read the entire thing to get the story.
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Was the guy who came to get Ned Billy Boyd?
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Holy shit!
Yeah, from here (near the end of the first book) and on out begins a long stream of "Holy Shit" moments. First book was the slowest, so season 2 and beyond should be pretty good. |
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Merusk
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Oh, did they just get to that part of Book 1? Nice. Basically, the guys on the wall are the expendable people at this point. Any training they get comes from those knights or nobles who are sent to the wall to get them out of the way. As Threash said, Winter hasn't been around for so long that -as with all fantasy- the big baddie's been forgotten and turned into nothing more than scary tales to those in the South. The real elite fighters are used for the political maneuverings and wars in the South. Only the Starks maintain any semblance of wariness about the crap North of the wall.
Correction, winter does come every few years, Tyrion mentioned he'd seen seven on the show i believe. What hasn't been around are the white walkers, which are said to show up during the long winter. That doesn't sound right but I'd have to reread the books to verify. I did read that yeah, it's been 8k years since the White Walkers were seen. |
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« Last Edit: May 30, 2011, 05:42:15 PM by Merusk »
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Teleku
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Oh, did they just get to that part of Book 1? Nice.
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Merusk
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Oh, did they just get to that part of Book 1? Nice.
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Holy Shit.
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No Nerf, but I put a link to this very thread and I said that you all can guarantee for my purity. I even mentioned your case, and see if they can take a look at your lawn from a Michigan perspective.
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MournelitheCalix
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Oh, did they just get to that part of Book 1? Nice.
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« Last Edit: May 30, 2011, 06:44:42 PM by MournelitheCalix »
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Draegan
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Bob, regarding Cersei:
Spoiler contains comments from book 2 fyi. There are people here who have watched the show and are reading the books but aren't up to certain parts in the series yet. Just say'in. |
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Oh, did they just get to that part of Book 1? Nice. Basically, the guys on the wall are the expendable people at this point. Any training they get comes from those knights or nobles who are sent to the wall to get them out of the way. As Threash said, Winter hasn't been around for so long that -as with all fantasy- the big baddie's been forgotten and turned into nothing more than scary tales to those in the South. The real elite fighters are used for the political maneuverings and wars in the South. Only the Starks maintain any semblance of wariness about the crap North of the wall.
Correction, winter does come every few years, Tyrion mentioned he'd seen seven on the show i believe. What hasn't been around are the white walkers, which are said to show up during the long winter. That doesn't sound right but I'd have to reread the books to verify. I did read that yeah, it's been 8k years since the White Walkers were seen. They have had winters but not very long ones nor very serious compared to what happened in the past. I vaguely remember them saying one winter was so long that the sun was not seen for 20 years and that is when the white walkers came. Their seasonal durations are very very random seeming at this point although george has hinted there is some actual mechanism or reason for when the long winters come. |
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This is why the TV series is failing. Too much stuff like this is being cut in order to keep things moving. Jamie and his sister are much more simple characters as a result. As are Twyin and Tyrion. I found ep 7 to be a letdown. The quality of the episodes is still really up and down for me. One second I think the series is getting in its groove and is going to stay great, then next it's back to Really pissed off about a few things... oh well. |
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What's your standard for "failing"? It certainly is doing fine in terms of viewership.
If it's "I don't like it", and the reason is, "because it's not 100% just like the books and doesn't have every single detail" I refer you to the already-retarded arguments about the LoTR movies and Tolkien ongoing in The Hobbit thread, you'll fit right in.
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Speedy Cerviche
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His chat with the hookers was to set up his character's reasons for the events with Ned later in the episode, so it doesn't come out of the blue. They want to have characters with depth who are doing things for reasons, not just... SURPRISE!!!
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Kingsguard isn't supposed to be celibate, they just aren't supposed to marry.
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Not sure of that. Bran was going to be a knight himself someday, one of the Kingsguard. Old Nan said they were the finest swords in all the realm. There were only seven of them, and they wore white armor and had no wives or children, but lived only to serve the king. |
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This is why the TV series is failing. Too much stuff like this is being cut in order to keep things moving. Jamie and his sister are much more simple characters as a result. As are Twyin and Tyrion.
Really pissed off about a few things... oh well.
Dude, it's like you're actively trying to hate this show even though it's doing really well, getting a second season, and pulling in a lot of positive buzz with a solid 3.2 million viewers a show. It's almost like you made up your mind before the show even started. I expect it will suck too.
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Not sure of that. Bran was going to be a knight himself someday, one of the Kingsguard. Old Nan said they were the finest swords in all the realm. There were only seven of them, and they wore white armor and had no wives or children, but lived only to serve the king. |
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I am pretty sure they talk constantly about how certain KG people are breaking their vows in book 4. It is possible I'm misremembering but I thought that's why a particular POV in that book is titled "The Soiled Knight". Now I have to reread them AGAIN. |
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I am pretty sure they talk constantly about how certain KG people are breaking their vows in book 4. It is possible I'm misremembering but I thought that's why a particular POV in that book is titled "The Soiled Knight". Now I have to reread them AGAIN. You are correct...read that chapter this morning, as it happens. |
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lamaros
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What's your standard for "failing"? It certainly is doing fine in terms of viewership.
If it's "I don't like it", and the reason is, "because it's not 100% just like the books and doesn't have every single detail" I refer you to the already-retarded arguments about the LoTR movies and Tolkien ongoing in The Hobbit thread, you'll fit right in. I guess I should elaborate the comment to "failing to capture as much of the books as I feel is possible/failing to write bridging scenes that are consistent with the characterisation in the books". Wasn't Two and a Half Men one of the most popular shows on TV in the US? Dunno what real relevance viewer numbers have to this discussion. His chat with the hookers was to set up his character's reasons for the events with Ned later in the episode, so it doesn't come out of the blue. They want to have characters with depth who are doing things for reasons, not just... SURPRISE!!! Really pissed off about a few things... oh well. Dude, it's like you're actively trying to hate this show even though it's doing really well, getting a second season, and pulling in a lot of positive buzz with a solid 3.2 million viewers a show. It's almost like you made up your mind before the show even started. Did you miss the bit where I have said some episodes are really excellent and that I'm watching it? I'm annoyed because of the episodes that are falling down, not the show in general. Really pissed off by "a few things "is not really pissed off completely. It's possible to enjoy something without soiling my pants over it. The show pretty obviously a whole lot better than I ever expected it to be. And yeah, the Kingsguard are meant to be celibate. No ifs or buts on that one. They aren't, sure, but the vow is to be so. |
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You're right, SirBrucing the thread obviously proves you have perspective. Carry on.
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You're right, SirBrucing the thread obviously proves you have perspective. Carry on.
Responding to different posters is not SirBrucing.  Got a bee in your bonnet because I don't like some aspects of the show? So what? This is the show thread. |
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