Game of Thrones [SPOILERS]

[Threash]

That part of the prophesy was very specifically NOT in the show.

[Samwise]

One of the things that HAS to happen is Cersei’s prophecy.  Jamie or Tyrion has to strangle her at some point.

The prophecy refers to the "hands of the valonqar [little brother]".  "Hands" plural, and "the" little brother, not "your" little brother.

Tyrion's hands aren't big enough (unless he somehow uses that same "hand necklace" he used to strangle Shae), and Jaime only has one hand.

Euron has two hands, is very capable of using them to strangle Cersei, and is Balon's little brother.  My other top pick for the valonqar is the Hound, for similar reasons.

[Brolan]

That part of the prophesy was very specifically NOT in the show.

Very true.  That could mean they went a different way, or they thought is was too hard to explain, or it was a spoiler.

[Threash]

Ironically Dany's prophesy about the "mummer's dragon" was, and they completely forgot about it.

[eldaec]

One of the things that HAS to happen is Cersei’s prophecy.  Jamie or Tyrion has to strangle her at some point.

The prophecy refers to the "hands of the valonqar [little brother]".  "Hands" plural, and "the" little brother, not "your" little brother.

Tyrion's hands aren't big enough (unless he somehow uses that same "hand necklace" he used to strangle Shae), and Jaime only has one hand.

Euron has two hands, is very capable of using them to strangle Cersei, and is Balon's little brother.  My other top pick for the valonqar is the Hound, for similar reasons.

I'm fairly sure the book plan is for Jamie is to kill Cersei with the Hand's chain, like Tyrion killed Shae.

Seems very likely TV Jamie is going to kill TV Cersei, though the valonqar is not a TV thing.

[Abagadro]

What if tyrion and jamie each use one hand and use the hand chain. Three hands.   

[Rendakor]

Fantasy GoT Scores update for those following along at home:

Phildo - 650
Soln - 510
Rendakor - 480
Cyrrex - 460
MahrinSkel - 345
Teleku - 340
Strazos - 260
Samwise - 230

There are so many dead characters at this point that anything can happen! And the winner of this will make at least half as much sense as whoever ends up on the Iron Throne...

[HaemishM]

Well that was gratuitous and fuckstupid. Jesus Christ.

[rattran]

A sad job selling us on a Mad Queen, no wonder the actress was mocking the final season.

[Chimpy]

So in one episode, they are reloading and firing in like 2 seconds. And in the next episode they can’t even get a single shot off that lands?

One more episode then I can stop ever having to think about this garbage.

[Threash]

I'm back on Team Stannis.

[Brolan]

Well that was gratuitous and fuckstupid. Jesus Christ.

Yup.

[Threash]

Fitting that this is mother's day, i bet there's a lot of morons regretting naming their kid Khaleesi right about now.

[Riggswolfe]

Mad Queen Dany as predicted. I was a bit bummed that Cersei got such an easy way out. I did like Arya and the Hound's arc in this episode and that beautiful final shot of Arya on the pale horse was some damn foreshadowing if I've ever seen it.

[HaemishM]

They are telegraphing Arya to kill Dany from a mile away. Or maybe a tag team of Jon and Arya. Any pretense of subtlety or surprise is fucking gone, in favor of 30 minutes plus of DRAGONRAAAAWWWRRRRFIREGUD!!!!!

Clegane Bowl did not disappoint, however.

[Riggswolfe]

They are telegraphing Arya to kill Dany from a mile away. Or maybe a tag team of Jon and Arya. Any pretense of subtlety or surprise is fucking gone, in favor of 30 minutes plus of DRAGONRAAAAWWWRRRRFIREGUD!!!!!

Clegane Bowl did not disappoint, however.

The short season is causing lots of rushed storytelling. I'm not sure Jon will be able to bring himself to kill Dany. Then again Dany did say "Jon Snow betrayed me." So she may be ready to execute Jon and Tyrion next episode and Arya will have to step in.

Still leaves me to wonder what the hell happens to Drogon though. Even if they kill Dany there's still a dragon and the only Scorpion that may exist is under the red keep. (the one Clyburn used for his demo to Cersei.)

[Brolan]

Arya did not seem in character.  She has been focused on revenge for her father since he was beheaded.  For her to go through all she went through, get to the end, and then in a few seconds get turned around by the Hound of all people.  Did not seem right.

[WayAbvPar]

Did not enjoy. Actually relishing seeing the end of this nonsense at this point.

If Varys betrayed Dany in Season 3, it would have been a season long arc with her killing him at the end. In this bullshit season we get 2 or 3 scenes.

I did like Euron's joy in being the man to kill Jaime Lannister. He was bugfuck and bloodthirsty to the end.

Speaking of Jaime...he must have gotten several blood transfusions and some major surgery offscreen, because he was mobile a fuckton longer than anyone who had a dagger buried in their torso TWICE should ever be. I hope he and Cersei somehow survive the collapse just to finish off the idiocy.

Liked Arya calling the Hound by his first name. Liked The Mountain being completely, terriyingly silent. Was hoping The Hound would prevail, but he at least he got what he wanted.

I hope Jon Snow realizes Dany has to die, but can't bring himself to do it...as he agonizes over it, Arya appears and cuts Dany's throat: roll credits. That might be the only way to save what is left of the show's dignity.

[Polysorbate80]

Rocks fall, but did everyone die?  it's open to plot writing whether Cersei or Euron are dead.  Jaime should have died from at least two mortal wounds. whereas Euron has a (plot inflicted) gut wound.  Those are fatal but notoriously slow.  He can still kill her if the collapse (and showrunners) didn't.

Arya is probably killing Dany.  I agree that it is rushed, but not out of character.  I would expect Jon kills Grey Wurm, is fucked up but Arya ninjas Dany.  If they don't do some stupid "Dany turns into a dragon" shit.

Cleganebowl was ok.  Killing his brother with fire is somehow fitting.

[schild]

There's garbage and there's whatever is below garbage and then there's Game of Thrones.

[WayAbvPar]

Yeah it is really staggering to the finish line, pants full and dripping.

[calapine]

I was a bit bummed that Cersei got such an easy way out.

Fuck you too, buddy! :p

Edit: I haven't seen the episode and not sure I care enough to do by now.

[Jeff Kelly]

A sad job selling us on a Mad Queen, no wonder the actress was mocking the final season.

They are all mocking the final season. The post GoT interviews by the cast have not been kind to both the final season and the showrunners.

[Tebonas]

What the fuck was that? Do Benioff and Weiss hate working on the show that much? Apart from the Clegane fight that was utter junk from start to finish. And I don't even try to assign motivations for any character, because character development doesn't mean shit anymore.

They achieved the impossible. I'm glad the show is done after next week.

[Wasted]

At least they didn't fuck up Cleganebowl.  I liked Arya actually taking the Hounds advice, it was a great moment.

Dany's fuckstupid Mad Queen has almost ruined the entire show in retrospect though.  I'm so glad this is ending.

[Setanta]

The Cleganes was shit. Just fan service and did nothing to finish Sandor's arc. It served no real purpose.

Varys' storyline was also shit, as was Tirion's. Again, it served no purpose as Jon and Tyrion seem to have become totally inept at understanding anything compared to their earlier characters.

A piss poor effort all round, the theories generated in forums etc had more depth than this shitty conclusion.

[Riggswolfe]

Talking about this on Facebook, I mentioned that Dany had been telegraphed to go mad queen since season 7. To my surprise, one of the replies I got said "No, she's been telegraphed to go Mad Queen for years. Her first instinct is burn and slaughter but Jorah or Missandei talk her down everytime. They're gone now, that's why she finally let loose."

Anyway, I'm trying to figure out next episode. Just for shits and giggles my broad stroke predictions:

Arya kills Dany.
Somehow they take out Drogon or he flies off and terrorizes the countryside for years to come.
Jon banishes himself to the Far North.
The kingdoms splinter as they were pre-Targayren.
Sansa rules an independent North.
Tyrion returns to Casterly Rock and rules over what is left of it.
Gendry stays in the North since his only claim to Storms End is from a mad Targayren.

[Threash]

Arya did not seem in character.  She has been focused on revenge for her father since he was beheaded.  For her to go through all she went through, get to the end, and then in a few seconds get turned around by the Hound of all people.  Did not seem right.

Part of it was that Cersei had already lost and the damn castle was crumbling on top of them. She didn't just give up on revenge, she saw the pointlessness of pushing on under current circumstances.

[satael]

So what's going to happen to all those Dothraki and Unsullied if Dany dies? (especially if she gets ganked by a Stark)

[schild]

They're gonna be really upset when Jon rides in on a bran dragon and burns them while dany gets her face stabbed in by Arya.

[Riggswolfe]

So what's going to happen to all those Dothraki and Unsullied if Dany dies? (especially if she gets ganked by a Stark)

I'd think either the Northmen and Unsullied and Dothraki turn on each other or they disband and become mercs and bandits and such.

[Tale]

That was a pretty good episode of a TV show.

Thoughts and prayers to you all.

[Threash]

So what's going to happen to all those Dothraki and Unsullied if Dany dies? (especially if she gets ganked by a Stark)

They will magically turn weak enough to easily defeat.

[Phildo]

Considering they only lost half their forces at Winterfell, they'll probably overrun Westeros regardless of what happens to Dany.  Maybe they'll recover some of the Scorpions and take the Iron Islands, too.

[Jeff Kelly]

They have 79 minutes left to wrap things up, chances are there'll be a lot of open threads left because nothing except a giant meteor striking Westeros will help at this point.