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In the TV show he doesn't come across as supremely controlled, he comes across as a giggling panto villain.
Understated and serious, with the mask slipping on occasion to show either anger or sadistic pleasure would be fine.
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I disagree too. Carcetti is doing a fine job.
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"Giggling panto villain"? I think you should take better advantage of having a television that receives programming from an alternate reality. Go look at what's on the news channels, it should be interesting.
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There have been a couple cringe worthy acting moments for Carcetti, but overall he's done a fine job. Just strange things with his mouth, I guess...they kinda bug me.
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And if this were any other TV show I'd be 'Meh, he's fine'. But next to the other performances, and how they've developed over 3 seasons, he's the one guy I can't quite buy into.
Even the kids this season have been great. People have mentioned Dany already, but even Jon, who is another grating featureless character in the book, has been made into an actual character by the performance this season.
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Despite being a pretentious dick, I'm actually starting to feel sorry for Greyjoy.
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Threash
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Btw, do we still use spoilers here?
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eldaec
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Book 4 and 5 are concurrent. So the start of 5 is the end of 3.
The TV show will undoubtedly stay chronological. Also more stuff is implied to happen before the end of book 3, and I can't imagine there will be too much more in this season judging from what the episode names imply they are covering in the last few shows.
Yes, if what you say is a spoiler.
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The guy playing Ramsay is killing it. He is genuinely fucking creepy.
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The guy playing Ramsay is killing it. He is genuinely fucking creepy.
Yeah, as soon as the chicks showed up, I started going "Holy shit, this guy is fucking CRUEL. Blueballs 4TL." Even watching the hotness on screen, I felt kind of queasy knowing that the little fucker was going to show up and ruin a good hardon for Theon. Also, really digging how the Jamie and Brienne relationship is being acted. It's almost exactly like the book (with some minor details changed) and yet it's so much more emotional thanks to the actors. |
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The guy playing Ramsay is killing it. He is genuinely fucking creepy.
Track down season 1 of Misfits, he's a main character and has the most interesting character arc by far. |
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Btw, do we still use spoilers here?
One thing to note and this is not a spoiler but book 4 and 5 take place at the same time and are just geographically separated with book 4 being the southern story lines mostly and 5 the northern ones mostly. I am guessing they will wind up reblending books 4 and 5 back together as I don't think laying off half your actors for a year or two would be a viable plan continuity wise. |
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There is also the fact that almost a decade passed between book 3 and 5, so you can be forgiven for feeling like Theon disappeared from the story for a long long time.  The guy playing Ramsay is killing it. He is genuinely fucking creepy.
Absolutly agree, and I fucking hate his character in the books. This is a much better version than what I was expecting. I fucking love his vuvuzela running gag. |
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There is also the fact that almost a decade passed between book 3 and 5, so you can be forgiven for feeling like Theon disappeared from the story for a long long time. Real I think Teleku meant the time it took for Martin to write the books, not in-fiction time. I don't remember any really big jumps timewise in the story -- maybe a year here or there, if that? |
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There is also the fact that almost a decade passed between book 3 and 5, so you can be forgiven for feeling like Theon disappeared from the story for a long long time. Real I think Teleku meant the time it took for Martin to write the books, not in-fiction time. I don't remember any really big jumps timewise in the story -- maybe a year here or there, if that? I always took it to be a few years. Anyhow, the time thing is pretty damned important. |
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There wasn't any time gap between the storyline in the books, it's all be continuous. Theon got captured when Winterfell go sacked, it was at most a few months to a year between then and when the Boltons came back north.
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Yeah, I was indeed refering to real time. I was in the middle of High school when I read book two and last saw Theon. By the time he finally returned, I had long ago graduated college, lived around the world, and started/stopped several careers. It just feels like he disappeared into Ramseys dungeon for a decade.
Between the end of book 2 (where we last see him) and the start of books 4/5, at most a year passed in the books. But probably less. He was only gone from the timeline for however long the events of book three took.
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Worth considering that...
...point being there isn't much left in the Bolton's storyline before theon has a post-torture role. I can certainly imagine it being shown early next season.
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Worth considering that...
...point being there isn't much left in the Bolton's storyline before theon has a post-torture role. I can certainly imagine it being shown early next season.
Which would then end that storyline and leave nothing left of what's been written for any future seasons. They gotta stretch that story for however many seasons they have left before winds of winter. |
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Dario is great.
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eldaec
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Worth considering that...
...point being there isn't much left in the Bolton's storyline before theon has a post-torture role. I can certainly imagine it being shown early next season.
Which would then end that storyline and leave nothing left of what's been written for any future seasons. They gotta stretch that story for however many seasons they have left before winds of winter. Plenty of things happen after the bit I spoilered. If that doesn't happen next season I don't really know what you imagine they'll do with Roose Bolton next year. This season is ending 75% of the way through storm, so I would think they have about 4 or 5 episodes before Feast and Dance start, then probably 25 episodes before they really need the next book. Did see a report that HBO are discussing a hedge knight series to pad things out further. |
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I am struggling not to tip off my non-GOT reading wife about what's coming next episode.
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I am struggling not to tip off my non-GOT reading wife about what's coming next episode.
Heh, its like everyone on the internet who has read the books will finally be able to relax and stop holding it in... |
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Anybody who makes it to that episode without having it spoiled for them by SOMEBODY deserves a fucking trophy of some sort.
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Anybody who makes it to that episode without having it spoiled for them by SOMEBODY deserves a fucking trophy of some sort.
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Anybody who makes it to that episode without having it spoiled for them by SOMEBODY deserves a fucking trophy of some sort.
Then keep your mouths shut, because I've managed it so far. Should I just stop reading these threads for the next 4 days? --Dave You should stop reading the spoiler thread obviously, that's why we made a different one for you infidels. |
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Anybody who makes it to that episode without having it spoiled for them by SOMEBODY deserves a fucking trophy of some sort.
Then keep your mouths shut, because I've managed it so far. Should I just stop reading these threads for the next 4 days? --Dave For Gods Sake... YES. 11 days recommended. Seriously. |
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Judging by the episode titles, the big event is happening in episode 9, not 10.
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Judging by the episode titles, the big event is happening in episode 9, not 10.
I read somewhere, the TV series is getting into the rhythm of episode 9 being the big 'Oh shit' episode. Series 1 was Ned Stark, Series 2 was Blackwater, and Series 3 looks to be that-which-shall-not-be-named for fear of spoiling Mahrin. |
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My wife still doesn't know what's coming. She asked me if the big "Oh shit" was Sansa and Tyrion and I laughed. It's driving her nuts that I won't tell her.
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The thing I assume will happen in episode 10 is also a non-trivial oh shit moment.
People aren't mentioning it because of ep 9's thing.
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Threash
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There's an important event in episode 9 (Ned killed, battle of blackwater, *cough*) and an oh shit moment at the end of 10 (Dragons born, Fist of the first men attacked by zombies, *cough*).
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The thing I assume will happen in episode 10 is also a non-trivial oh shit moment.
People aren't mentioning it because of ep 9's thing.
What's the big thing in episode 10? |
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