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Morfiend
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on: November 16, 2004, 01:10:32 PM

Is this out today or tomorrow?

EB said shipping. But not sure if it means stores will have it today. That way I could save myself a trip tomorrow.

Reviews please.
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Reply #1 on: November 16, 2004, 01:20:10 PM

God I hope so. If it is half as cool as it sounds, it will be a blast.

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Reply #2 on: November 16, 2004, 01:25:41 PM

I'll be doing a more 'official' review. As for all you fuckers who already got it. Plz choke on the manual.
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Reply #3 on: November 16, 2004, 01:46:33 PM

I didn't even want to make a trip to the store for fear it'd be sold out and/or not in stock yet.  Already went through that with Evil Genius a couple months ago, and HL2 will keep me busy for a while anyway (mmm digital distribution and no running from store to store).
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Reply #4 on: November 16, 2004, 02:08:36 PM

It's good. A massive system hog though. ( Running decently on my X800 Pro, Althon 64 3000, 1024 DDR )

Been playing it as a fancy pants Toreador seducing the ladies of the nightclubs and scaring the men into submission. ( Just made myself a ghoul bitch, hah! ) I was pleasantly surprised to find out Troika decided the world of darkness needed to be filled not only with gothangst but also with quite alot of creepyness/horror. There has been more then one occation the game has made me jump. It also does a pretty good job between varying the fights and the time spent talking.

Graphicly the game has nothing on HL2, but it's alot better then most games. Same can be said for sound.



Well, that's all for now. Time spent typing is time that could be spent playing HL2 and Bloodlines.

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Reply #5 on: November 16, 2004, 02:22:55 PM

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I didn't even want to make a trip to the store for fear it'd be sold out and/or not in stock yet.  


So, the internet is no problem for you, but phones are a foreign concept?
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Reply #6 on: November 16, 2004, 02:23:32 PM

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Quote from: Samwise
I didn't even want to make a trip to the store for fear it'd be sold out and/or not in stock yet.  


So, the internet is no problem for you, but phones are a foreign concept?


God I hate phones.
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Reply #7 on: November 16, 2004, 03:13:35 PM

/agree with MrHat.  I have an irrational hatred of phones and believe they should be abolished in favor of email and instant messaging.

Besides which, I've had bad experiences in the past with talking to the goon at the store, being told that the thing I want is there, or will be there on a certain day, and then showing up to have some other goon tell me that no such thing exists as far as he's aware.  Some stores are better than others.  I haven't satisfactorily identified which are the good ones, and tend to be suspicious of all retail outlets as a result.

It's not worth the hassle.  Easier to either wait a week or two to make sure the shelves are well-stocked, or just order it from Amazon.  (Amazon being the next best thing to pure digital delivery.)
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Reply #8 on: November 16, 2004, 04:02:15 PM

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/agree with MrHat.  I have an irrational hatred of phones and believe they should be abolished in favor of email and instant messaging.

Besides which, I've had bad experiences in the past with talking to the goon at the store, being told that the thing I want is there, or will be there on a certain day, and then showing up to have some other goon tell me that no such thing exists as far as he's aware.  Some stores are better than others.  I haven't satisfactorily identified which are the good ones, and tend to be suspicious of all retail outlets as a result.

It's not worth the hassle.  Easier to either wait a week or two to make sure the shelves are well-stocked, or just order it from Amazon.  (Amazon being the next best thing to pure digital delivery.)


What about EB Games? They ship to the online shoppers the same day they ship to their own stores.
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Reply #9 on: November 16, 2004, 04:03:58 PM

Just a note- for all of you who get to play this before I do, and for all of you with a beefy enough PC to really crank up the graphics, please know that I hold you in the lowest possible esteem, and hope that you are soon suffering from a fatal case of genital warts.

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Reply #10 on: November 16, 2004, 04:18:22 PM

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What about EB Games? They ship to the online shoppers the same day they ship to their own stores.


Amazon does free shipping.  Cheapness for the win.
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Reply #11 on: November 16, 2004, 04:44:15 PM

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Just a note- for all of you who get to play this before I do, and for all of you with a beefy enough PC to really crank up the graphics, please know that I hold you in the lowest possible esteem, and hope that you are soon suffering from a fatal case of genital warts.

Now why are you dragging schild's genital warts into this? That cream supposedly helped.
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Reply #12 on: November 16, 2004, 04:47:52 PM

WayAbvPar = That's just cruel man

Game report: My ghoul is turning batshit crazy. She's taken the habit of beating people uncounsious and locking them up in my bathroom, guess it's just her trying to make sure there's always a meal waiting for me at home but damn...

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Reply #13 on: November 16, 2004, 06:10:49 PM

The more I hear about this the more I want to play.  Damn.
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Reply #14 on: November 16, 2004, 06:14:10 PM

I sure hope someone makes a Co-Op MOD for this game the way one was made for Deus Ex.  The lack of multiplayer support really shortens a title's shelf-life and that has me worried.

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Reply #15 on: November 16, 2004, 06:17:46 PM

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I sure hope someone makes a Co-Op MOD for this game the way one was made for Deus Ex.  The lack of multiplayer support really shortens a title's shelf-life and that has me worried.


I'd rather more companies focused on making the single player game worth a shit than just tacking on some half assed multiplayer mode that I'll never play because I'm old, have shitty gaming reflexes now, and don't relish being a target with legs for 12 year olds.
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Reply #16 on: November 16, 2004, 06:45:23 PM

Do one thing and do it well.  I'd rather have CS for my multiplayer and HL2 for my single-player than two games that do both things half-assedly.
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Reply #17 on: November 16, 2004, 06:48:33 PM

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I'd rather more companies focused on making the single player game worth a shit than just tacking on some half assed multiplayer mode that I'll never play because I'm old, have shitty gaming reflexes now, and don't relish being a target with legs for 12 year olds.


While I do agree with you that companies should make compelling offline products, a MP aspect is almost a requisite for FPS-type games to survive beyond the 3-month window of their release.  Since this game leans heavily toward a FPS slant, the game will be won within a few weeks of play and retire to the recesses of unused shelf-space for most of us.

If a Co-Op MOD was incorporated, it'd be fun to see how multiple Vampire Clans interact with one another when controlled by players (Will a Tremere/Gangrel combo work best to solve this problem or will two rabid Nosferatus be better off turning the entire scene into a abbatoir?).

Since the game is missing some of the cooler Vampire Clans, it'd be cool to be able to add them in and modify how their new playing styles will affect the game beyond what was originally implemented (on a strict dev-time budget).

Deus Ex pulled this off surprisingly well and, with one player assuming the role of a Hacker/Stealth protagonist while the other blasts in with guns drawn, the game was actually quite more enjoyable than it was originally intended to be (and the original was one of the BEST games I've ever played).

I agree fully that all games shouldn't take the Quake III Arena approach but making a short, single-player only game really limits the marketability of the product this day and age (IMO).

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Reply #18 on: November 16, 2004, 08:45:02 PM

So far so good, but HL2 does have the win in the graphics department. Now mind you, VTM Bloodlines is no pushover, HL2 is just better. I did the little character creation quiz and apparently I'm a Malkavian. *cackle* Pretty fun so far, but I haven't had more than an hour or so to tinker with it.

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Reply #19 on: November 16, 2004, 10:23:50 PM

Gameplay wise, it's a blast. Playing a toreador as well, and so far I've only had to fight once besides the tutorial, and that was an optional quest. There's a haunted house mission that's incredibly creepy. One thing that's starting to bug me though is the skins. About a third are full computer art like the crazy malkavian nightclub owner and look very good. 2/3 though it looks like they just cut and pasted photos of people from around the office onto their heads and it just looks bad. And what they've go going on for most peoples hair is a crime against... well, hair. HL2, at least on a 9700pro  looks way, way better. So good in fact my wife commented on how close to real things look. However, I'm taking a break from it to unwind with Vampire. Not as good looking, but at least for me, a more relaxing game.

Oh, and bad game to Valve for having the steam shit, but still making have cd1 in the drive to play HL2. bleh

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Reply #20 on: November 17, 2004, 03:02:52 AM

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What about EB Games? They ship to the online shoppers the same day they ship to their own stores.


Amazon does free shipping.  Cheapness for the win.


EB Games has an option to ship to any of their stores, for free.  I'm not sure if that works on released games or just preorders.  Basicly you're just preordering at the store without having to go to the store before you pick it up.  A bonus for folks like me who just fucking hate the mall.

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Reply #21 on: November 17, 2004, 03:31:46 AM

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While I do agree with you that companies should make compelling offline products, a MP aspect is almost a requisite for FPS-type games to survive beyond the 3-month window of their release.  Since this game leans heavily toward a FPS slant, the game will be won within a few weeks of play and retire to the recesses of unused shelf-space for most of us.


Well, from what I hear Bloodlines is compatible with hammer. If true only morrowind comes to mind as a modern rpg with equally powerfull mod-tools. And that survived well beyond 3 months. I still see it on the shelves of most major shops around here.

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Reply #22 on: November 17, 2004, 04:17:09 AM

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Well, from what I hear Bloodlines is compatible with hammer. If true only morrowind comes to mind as a modern rpg with equally powerfull mod-tools. And that survived well beyond 3 months. I still see it on the shelves of most major shops around here.


I think the rapid expansions played a role in that.  If the game never truly "ends" it's a little easier to keep people buying it (since MP games rarely have a conclusion, they generally last longer...especially when developers/ambitious MODders keep supplying new content).

Example of a great SP game that's pretty much dead and buried now: Max Payne franchise.  Amazing Bullet-time novelty and likeable characters/dialogue...but it has a definitive end and the "Dead Man Walking" mode was too boring for my tastes.  I won the game in a single sitting and was really disappointed that it only lasted about a day on my hard drive before it was uninstalled for a newer title.

Funny thing about Morrowind: the MOD community actually made better graphics for the game(s) than the developers...gotta love passion-inspired art vs. profit-inspired art ;)

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Reply #23 on: November 17, 2004, 11:04:23 AM

Can anyone give me a list of the system requirements for this game? Not even the game's fucking web site has system requirements, or if it does, I can't find it thanks to their ghey-ass mystery meat navigation.

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Reply #24 on: November 17, 2004, 11:08:41 AM

Only have the minimum on the box

1.3 Athlon/Pentium
384 megs ram (512 recommended)
3d card needs to be directx 9 native
soundblaster (newly updated)
3.3 gigs of space + 1.4 gigs for swap file

Basically, it's a little easier to run than Counterstrike Source. Loads a hell of a lot faster than most FPS' out there right now. And is better. Period.

It's Deus Ex: Vampires.
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Reply #25 on: November 17, 2004, 11:14:54 AM

Fuck, I meet it except for the video card. I needz me an upgrade.

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Reply #26 on: November 17, 2004, 12:14:48 PM

I just  got home from the store picking up my pre-order and I open the case there is this strong smell of maple syrup as soon as I open it.. The CDs and everything work right and everything looks in order but I still get that smell. Anyone else notice this?
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Reply #27 on: November 17, 2004, 12:48:07 PM

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... is this strong smell of maple syrup as soon as I open it...


You have been invaded by the pancake people.

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Reply #28 on: November 17, 2004, 12:49:28 PM

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I just  got home from the store picking up my pre-order and I open the case there is this strong smell of maple syrup as soon as I open it.. The CDs and everything work right and everything looks in order but I still get that smell. Anyone else notice this?


I've noticed that certain CD-Rs that I buy have that same smell. I guess it just means your discs were hot off the press when they were put in the packaging.

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Reply #29 on: November 17, 2004, 12:49:44 PM

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I just  got home from the store picking up my pre-order and I open the case there is this strong smell of maple syrup as soon as I open it..


I thought that only happened with Bioware titles!

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Reply #30 on: November 17, 2004, 02:13:26 PM

I have had the same thing with a big batch of cd-r at work. Whenever they were being burned there was a strong odor of maple syrup. It was maddening as when you were burning installs it made you crazy hungry for big stacks of pancakes.


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Reply #31 on: November 17, 2004, 02:13:43 PM

Either that or the person putting the contents in the box had waffles for breakfast and didnt wash their hands.

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Reply #32 on: November 17, 2004, 03:22:47 PM

Just got it. Reading the manual at work which I'm leaving early tonight to get me some Vampire Goodness. I'm leaning towards a Ventrue character or maybe a Brujah. Can't decide if I wanna be smart and devious or just kill things.

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Reply #33 on: November 17, 2004, 03:46:47 PM

I dont have it yet, but I heard you cant play any of my three favorite clans. The Lasambra, The Giovanni or the Assimite.

Thats sucks if true, I really wanted to be a Lasambra.
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Reply #34 on: November 17, 2004, 03:57:58 PM

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Just got it. Reading the manual at work which I'm leaving early tonight to get me some Vampire Goodness. I'm leaning towards a Ventrue character or maybe a Brujah. Can't decide if I wanna be smart and devious or just kill things.


My knowledge of this universe is just that TV series with that cheesy police actor.  Are the Ventrue the merchant charaters?
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