Left 4 Dead

[schild]

Dead Space had the best immersion since, well, I don't know, Chronicles of Riddick maybe. Though some parts of Penumbra were pretty great also.

[Velorath]

3 hours of my life just disappeared while playing this game.  Played the second and third campaigns all the way through (co-op) now and they are fucking amazing.  Even on normal, the last part of each campaign is brutal.  Expert would likely be nigh-impossible without a perfectly coordinated group.

[Surlyboi]

Dead Space had the best immersion since, well, I don't know, Chronicles of Riddick maybe. Though some parts of Penumbra were pretty great also.

Dead Space's immersion broke for me when I realized I was playing the video game version of Event Horizon. 

That said, Zombies + Actual group coordination = love. I was playing last night yelling shit from every zombie movie I've ever watched and having a blast.

[DraconianOne]

I downloaded the demo for this last night on Steam but when I tried to fire it up it gave me a "Pre-order" option but no "play demo" option.  This does not seem to be right. Can someone link me something I can play please?

[NiX]

You can't play the demo anymore. Valve rarely does demos, if at all. This was a time limited demo.

[Falconeer]

Oh my. They locked the demo? Maaaaaaaaann....

[Zzulo]

Valve are now my favourite developers

I have loved every single game they've released 

[DraconianOne]

You can't play the demo anymore. Valve rarely does demos, if at all. This was a time limited demo.

That, in no uncertain terms, is shit.

[SnakeCharmer]

The AI Director constantly amazes me.  Ran through with some friends last night and we tested a couple different things...

What we could tell was that if you're team is pulling off alot of headshots and has a really high percentage of accuracy, the game seems to automatically toughen up by sending more and more hordes.  If you and your group was a bunch of poor shots (spray and pray), it seems like it gave you a little bit more leeway.

Not scientific by any means, but we noticed it on a consistent basis.

[NiX]

That, in no uncertain terms, is shit.

There is logic to this one though. The demo was allowed out because they wanted to get a headstart on having dedicated servers up for the launch. Now that launch has hit, they cut the demo to avoid having dedicated servers used for demo players. It's not your typical game, so the circumstances make servers a tricky thing and, right now, in short supply.

[ashrik]

And while the buzz was certainly going on about this game and people were excited, you have to admit that the demo release made things go pretty crazy on the internet. I mean, it was taken pretty seriously in the blogosphere. 

[Jain Zar]

Im sure I could find out better by just looking online, but does this game have local multiplayer, or is it online only?

vvv  So the answer is no one system one screen play then?

Guess its another budget purchase then. 

[Prospero]

You can get your LAN on.

[Wasted]

Its going to be hard to get my WotLK addled friends to want to get this without the demo now

[Falconeer]

Two things:

1) It's in the credits: Infected Sounds by Mike Patton 
2) Stats. I need stats. Where are the stats?

[NiX]

vvv  So the answer is no one system one screen play then?

WAT?

[Velorath]

Im sure I could find out better by just looking online, but does this game have local multiplayer, or is it online only?

vvv  So the answer is no one system one screen play then?

Guess its another budget purchase then. 

360 has two player split-screen.  Split-screen was taken out of the PC version for the demo and is supposed to be reimplemented at some point.  There are workarounds though that can activate it.

[ashrik]

I was about to call bullshit when I found it

http://forums.steampowered.com/forums/showthread.php?t=745113

All you need is a 360 controller apparently.

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[Fabricated]

Whee. Did some single-player on easy to check out the levels.

No Mercy: Fun but the roof feels awful small compared to the interiors. I was hoping for a really huge skyscraper roof to fight on. :/
Death Toll: Got bored about 2 areas in and quit since I had some classwork to do.
Dead Air: Pretty fucking awesome. Has some "RE style" town design at the beginning 1/3rd or so though (meaning it makes no fucking sense how everything is laid out).
Blood Harvest: Didn't get to play it yet.

[Velorath]

Whee. Did some single-player on easy to check out the levels.

No Mercy: Fun but the roof feels awful small compared to the interiors. I was hoping for a really huge skyscraper roof to fight on. :/
Death Toll: Got bored about 2 areas in and quit since I had some classwork to do.
Dead Air: Pretty fucking awesome. Has some "RE style" town design at the beginning 1/3rd or so though (meaning it makes no fucking sense how everything is laid out).
Blood Harvest: Didn't get to play it yet.

Been through all the campaigns now (although the achievement system is still a bit wonky, so I only have the achievement for completeing one of them) and Dead Air is by far my favorite.  I really liked Death Toll also although the end of that campaign and the end of Blood Harvest are a bit too similar.

[Prospero]

Just finished Death Toll on advanced. That's... intense. Two fucking tanks to end it. I ended fighting the tank in the water with my teammates manning the minigun. Three of us ran toward the docks, but as we got on the ship a smoker snagged one and pulled him into the fire of the molotovs we had set behind us. Motherfucking epic. I can only play one game though; I get too jittery afterward.

[DraconianOne]

Two things:

1) It's in the credits: Infected Sounds by Mike Patton 

Mike Patton did the sound of the angry GLaDoS orb in Portal as well.

[Falconeer]

Yeah, I kinda recognized him there. Here, not yet. I'll crank the volume up.

[HAMMER FRENZY]

Man this game is fantastic. The offline is fun but the online is out of fucking control. The game is so much harder online with 3 other people. If someone drops out it gets even harder, our group had a hard time beating the first movie. Man this game is great. The VS mode is freaking fun as hell too. Being a Hunter is just a fantastic diabolical feeling of evil hahahaha. Too damn fun.

[Surlyboi]

Fucking tank threw me off the roof. This shit is bananas.

[Zetleft]

Used my day off to mostly play this game yesterday, holy shit is it fun.  Just me and another friend have it so need more xbox people to come on board next time.  Yes I'm playing on xbox and no I probably won't get it for the computer, until some mods or something convince me otherwise. 

Had so many oh shit moments in just the few hours of playing I literally can't wait to play some more. 

[Lantyssa]

It's fun, but I'm really bad at it.  I'm really glad I haven't seen a "friendly fire" tally in safehouse loading screens.  The zombies have nothing on my aim.

[Velorath]

It's fun, but I'm really bad at it.  I'm really glad I haven't seen a "friendly fire" tally in safehouse loading screens.  The zombies have nothing on my aim.

Think there's a tally at the end of the campaign.

[Aez]

Anyone found a use to the sniper rifle?  The M16 seems superior in every way.  Does it do armor piercing on the tank or something like that?

[Velorath]

Anyone found a use to the sniper rifle? 

Sniping?

If someone is good with it I guess it's useful for when you really want to pick your shot (sniping smokers, getting a hunter off your teammate from far away without spraying your teammate with bullets).  I can't say I ever use it myself though.  Haven't done any vs. stuff yet though so maybe it's helpful there?

[NiX]

It's especially useful during Finales. You can snipe gas cans and propane tanks with it. Vel nailed most of the other uses and it's good on tanks for shooting their head, which is the weak spot of sorts.

[Lantyssa]

My roommate uses it well to clear an area before we get near it.  Better in outdoors situations, but in the right hands very useful.

Think there's a tally at the end of the campaign.

There is.  It's not pretty. >>

[Aez]

Why not simply snipe with the M16? 

[Gong]

Anyone found a use to the sniper rifle?  The M16 seems superior in every way.  Does it do armor piercing on the tank or something like that?

The thing about the sniper rifle is that it's more of a railgun - it'll penetrate almost anything. It'll go through pretty much an unlimited number of zombies, so if you get the right kind of angle (head on) for a panic event, you can rack up a TON of kills. The key to using it effectively is trying to line enemies up so that you can kill  a bunch with a single shot. I feel like it's a big help for killing a tank in expert if you have someone headshotting the tank reliably with the hunting rifle, too.

That being said, it is still more conditional than the other guns - I never take it if somebody else on the team already has it, and if anyone else on the team gets killed, I'll drop it and take their weapon.

[Fabricated]

The sniper rifle is awesome for busting witches and tanks. When you get within range of a witch have everyone back up to as far as you can get while still having line of sight, and then have the rifle user unload into it along with anyone using an M16. She won't make it half way to you. It's good in finales where tanks approach from a decent distance since you can put a lot of damage on them before they get into melee range.