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						| Malakili 
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 Ok, what the hell Global Agenda?  I download the demo finally just to give it a shot, thinking well, despite the loot and crafting and RPG elements, if I can just PvP it might be worth it.   Then I get through the tutorial and I have to do 5 levels worth of PvE missions in order to PvP.  Fuck that.  I have a feeling it wouldn't have taken more than an evening to get into it, but it says way more than enough about what this game is ACTUALLY all about to make me just uninstall on the spot.  Shame, the controls felt pretty good and a little tribesish, too bad they didn't make it just a straight shooter. |  
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						| Trippy 
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 It gets worse. For all practical purposes you have to be at least 30 to participate in Agency vs Agency game play. I stopped playing cause I couldn't stand the grind to get to that point.
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						| Viin 
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 To be fair, getting to level 10 takes about an hour. It serves as a tutorial for how to play your class.
 Also, you can pvp your way to level 30 once you hit level 10. (And/or use xp boosters if you want).
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						| Shatter 
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 Dam I was thinking of trying this but that makes me want to crawl back into my hole.  Although Im sure gaining levels in this is a cake walk compared to Aion lol |  
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						| Nija 
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 The truth of the matter is that nobody wants fresh newbies on their team anymore. I think the 10-30 and 30-50 brackets are fair. A level 10 guy knows, in general, what items do what and isn't a burden to his team.
 I felt the same way back when I played WAR.
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						| Spiff 
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 Also their only income apart from box sales atm is xp/loot boosts, so I can sort of understand why they put in slight cockblocks to motivate you to buy one of those.
 That said it took me maybe a week of pretty casual play to PvP my first toon to 30 (without any boosts) and as Nija said, most people get annoyed if someone smuggles a level 20 or less into a 30+ match.
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						| Mrbloodworth 
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 I'm not sure I would call going from level 5 to 10 a grind. Most of us on this site have played things more worthy of that term for less. |  
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 I have all my characters in this game 30+ but haven't played since the spring. I'd say I'd be a noob if I ever booted it back up, especially given the changes this game has gone through. |  
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						| Malakili 
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 I'm not sure I would call going from level 5 to 10 a grind. Most of us on this site have played things more worthy of that term for less.
 Its not at all.  My point was, the fact that the game simply wouldn't let me PvP right away just turned me off completely.  Like I said originally, I'm sure I could've gotten to 10 in one evening at most.  It just spoke volumes to me about the game.  What I really was hoping for (despite my reservations), was a sort of small scale tribes meets team fortress.  Instead, I was met with the opportunity to do PvE missions and with lots of chat in /trade or whatever talking about crafting materials.  No thanks. Maybe I didn't give it a fair shake, but I just don't have the patience for it anymore. |  
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						| Amarr HM 
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 This game lost my vote when it went all WoW with guns. They should have just concentrated on the AvA sections and made that their persistent world.  |  
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 WoW with guns. 
 Wut. I think you guys are attaching a level of severity that, really does not exist.Entirely possible, but perception is everything. |  
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 Thanks to Sandstorm you'll hit level 10 before you know it and the trial limit of 12 will probably kick in before you've finished Sandstorm. |  
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 I celebrated the new patch by logging in and waiting in queues that never popped. No gameplay for me.
 
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 This game lost my vote when it went all WoW with guns. They should have just concentrated on the AvA sections and made that their persistent world. 
 the gameplay doesn't work against players why not refocus on what people find fun? |  
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						| Draegan 
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 I played this game for a month or so when it came out.  It looks like a completely different game now.   Wow. |  
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 I played this game for a month or so when it came out.  It looks like a completely different game now.   Wow.
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 For those who don't regularly check the Steam thread, Global Agenda is available for $7.49 today. |  
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 It reached the price point where I'm willing to consider buying it... and I still decided not to.  Hope it gets them some fresh blood though. |  
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						| Mrbloodworth 
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 Missed this, its a bit late. but has some good insights into it.  ADD: Talks about the reasons behind some changes, the reception of the game, and the new DLC comming this year.Link. |  
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 I might give this another whirl little later.  Right now almost all of my time is soaked up by Saints Row 2.  I can't believe I completely missed this game when it came out. |  
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						| Shatter 
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 "Todd: A revamp of trees might sound exciting… but could really upset the balance and bring the wrong kind of excitement.  Instead we’ll be focusing the dev team’s creativity on additional content!  Future content will be even more heavily themed in terms of fiction and atmosphere." Brilliant!!  |  
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 There is not much wrong with the skill trees. Besides, I do believe they were talking about the DESCRIPTIONS of the items in the tree VS. the flavor text, and NPC commentary in the world. The game balance has been impeccable in this title. LH: The game universe features a lot of atmosphere and creativity, yet the skills trees are very blandly written. In the short term, is there any chance we could expect a revamp of the trees for the sake of creativity? |  
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						| Ratman_tf 
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 So my bro got me this for xmas when the price came down. I'm having fun. Mostly soloing, I fucking hate other players. I might get into co-op and PvP eventually, but there's lots to do in sandstorm. The first instance where you save the doctor is pretty keen. The jailor dude will either knock you off a cliff with his rockets or toast you with his flamethrower if you wait long enough.    *editzor* Finished up Sandstorm at about level 17 with one each of the four classes. I've moved on to some PvE co-op since XP in Sandstorm sucks when you're done with the missions. I'ma having fun so far.  |  
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 You should join our small agency. Though I won't promise AvA action, just others to group with on a more regular basis. In other news: Most definitely. Thanks to the promotion and sale price ...over this recent holiday period alone we added WELL OVER 20,000 NEW Global Agenda players
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 You should join our small agency. Though I won't promise AvA action, just others to group with on a more regular basis.
 Tempting. I'll think about it. Oh, and I got a screamer on VOIP last night. Goddamn assholes. Voice chat with strangers is such a bad idea. I did turn off VOIP in the menu, but I still heard another player. Not sure how that works. |  
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 $7.50 on steam, so I bought it, dling now.
 Edit: Is there anyone in the f13 agency playing (I'm assuming the name it Bat Country)?
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 So I played this for maybe 6 hours over the course of a few days, and all I could think of while playing was "I'd rather be playing TF2.". |  
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 So I played this for maybe 6 hours over the course of a few days, and all I could think of while playing was "I'd rather be playing TF2.".
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